Democratic exodus over gun control

[SecularMotion]

A Democratic exit from the state House of Representatives over a gun control bill in February led to some verbal sparring between Republican candidate Matt Alcazar and state Rep. Helen Miller during a Tuesday evening forum.

Miller, D-Fort Dodge, said the chamber's Democrats felt it was an appropriate response after the House Republican leaders surprised them with a revised gun control bill.

''There was no reason to leave the Statehouse,'' said Alcazar, a Republican from Fort Dodge who's challenging Miller for the House District 9 seat.

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On Feb. 28, Democratic members of the House of Representatives walked out of the House chamber after being surprised by the Republican-written gun control bill. In February, Miller said the measure would allow people to ''pretty much take a gun anywhere you want.''

http://www.messengernews.net/page/content.detail/id/551340/Miller--Alcazar-spar-over-issues.html?nav=5010

[upaloopa]

1. But it is my right to take my shiny new gun

anyware I want. Who knows when a bad guy who needs shooting might appear.
Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep, it starts when you're always afraid .....

[Trunk Monkey]

10. Step out of line the man comes and takes you away

unless of course you live in a free and armed society

[Eleanors38]

11. Nice completion of the verse! Some here use "paranoia" as projection...

as well as the usual Psy 101 slur. Methinks da lady protesteth too much.

[gejohnston]

2. substance please

what does "pretty much anywhere" mean? Why walk out?

[ileus]

3. and is that a bad thing? what is your life worth?

IMHO mine is worth everything...so why would I oppose expanding the places I can defend myself.

Now imagine what the lives of my family is worth.

[Arctic Dave]

4. Find out where these places are and don't go.

If fear consumes you that much, then stay away from these places even if you are armed.

[ManiacJoe]

6. That is an incredibly naive statement.

Trouble does not make appointments.

[Arctic Dave]

7. No, it makes total sense.

If you live in fear of your life by going to a place you can't carry, then don't go. Tadah! Problem solved.

[Eleanors38]

12. Can't buy into your outlook, Arctic. While avoiding dangerous places is good policy...

and an essential component of situational awareness, it is in fact true that violent attacks (either personal or as the rare "mass" type) do indeed occur where and when we least expect. Who would expect it in a theater? A university lecture hall? A church? Who (as occurred a few days ago) would expect an attack on Austin's South Congress while folks were shopping and leaving a restaurant? Not many, including me.

But they occur nonetheless.

[Berserker]

16. Some attacks take place

in walmart and shopping mall parking lots should we stay away from them also?

[Arctic Dave]

19. If that is your fear then I would say yes.

Shop online.

Maybe shopping at Walmart is a bad idea all the way around.

[4th law of robotics]

5. What does "pretty much anywhere" mean here?

[PavePusher]

8. Any elected member of government who "walks out" on their job,

NO MATTER WHAT THEIR POLITICAL PARTY, should be publicly flogged, at minimum 20 lashes, and their entire pay/benefits package forfeited for the remainder of their term. If they do it again, life imprisonment in a Chinese coal mine.

It's childish fucking bullshit, and totally unacceptable behavior from "adults".

[SecularMotion]

9. They didn't "walk out" on their job, walking out was doing their job.

Just like Texas

Texas House paralyzed by Democratic walkout

http://articles.cnn.com/2003-05-13/politics/texas.legislature_1_house-speaker-tom-craddick-democratic-walkout-texas-house?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

and Wisconsin

Wisconsin Senate Democrats Walk Out, Threaten Quorum on Public Employee Bill

http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/02/17/wisconsin-senate-democrats-walk-out-threaten-quorum-on-public-employee-bill/

[PavePusher]

17. Sigh....

O.K., you're right. Anyone who doesn't like to face the fact that they lost should just walk away.

That'll solve everything, right?

[SecularMotion]

18. If it prevents republicans from passing radical right wing legislation

I'm good with it.

[Jenoch]

13. This story is a waste of time as far as this board is concerned.

There are zero details about the gun control bill so we really don't know what the issue was.

Secular just posts these things just to post. Them she must be getting paid by the number of threads she starts.

[Trunk Monkey]

14. I thought she was a he NT

[Trunk Monkey]

15. Apparently this actually happened seven months ago

Here is a link to an article about the actual event

http://www.bleedingheartland.com/diary/5347/iowa-house-democrats-walk-out-rather-than-debate-gun-bills

House Joint Resolution 2009 would add these words to the Iowa Constitution: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Gun advocates are clever to leave out the first clause of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which places the right to keep and bear arms in the context of "a well-regulated militia."

Please forgive the apparently RW source it was the first hit on Google

Edit After further perusal I thing this is actually a progressive website. the name threw me /Edit

Here is a link to the actual bill

http://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?Category=BillInfo&Service=Billbook&hbill=HJR2009