Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumRyan will bring gun owners to the ticket
Where Ryan is not only a finance whiz with ideas to counter the disastrous Obama economy, he is a dyed-in-the-wool hunter and gun guy with that all-important A rating from the National Rifle Association. Business Week has the details.
Congressman Ryan has vote right on all the important issues, and he is known to be a deer hunter who even butchers his own venison. If only Washington could boast someone like that; a representative who speaks from the heart, and probably the soul, for the hook-and-bullet crowd.
When Examiner met briefly with Romney earlier this year in Bellevue, we spent most of our time with a surrogate who assured us that the former Massachusetts governor really is a hunter and appreciates the shooting fraternity. Nobody needs to do that on Ryans behalf. Instead of the Maydenbauer Center, one might expect meeting Ryan around some campfire, or over in the pine forests of Northeast Washington where whitetails roam. And that brings this column around to gun owners who voted for the other guys in 2008.
http://www.examiner.com/article/ryan-will-bring-gun-owners-to-the-ticket
Equate
(256 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)There are 80 million such owners in our nation and a high percentage of these owners show up at the polls to vote for politicians who they feel will protect their gun rights. Many in their families who personally do not own a firearm but enjoy shooting will often vote in the same manner.
Obama has not been opposed to gun owner rights during his first term in office and in fact he has received an "F" rating from the Brady Campaign. It is not surprising that he did indeed support strong gun control prior to his election as he was a politician from possibly the most ant-gun state in the union. The NRA feels that he will support strong gun control laws in his second term. I personally feel they have far more reason to worry about Romney.
I feel that Romney realizes that he has only moderate support from conservatives in our nation and is doing his best to convince them that he is a true conservative. Of course that is laughable.
The fact remains that the views of the VP have little effect on the policies that the President supports. Usually the VP candidate gets on the ticket merely to win his home state and to be an attack dog against the other party's candidate for the Presidency.
Usually this person posts anti-gun articles and I couldn't figure out what his point was.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)that's right, I forgot. Bad, bad me.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)Answer a few questions:
1- Had Romney'$ campaign not selected someone with an "all-important A rating" from the NRA would Wayne, Ted & Co be getting chummy with Barack and Joe?
2- This relates to the group SOP how?
LAGC
(5,330 posts)He's already gotten another of his screeds locked for trying to smear President Obama for not being as tough on guns as he'd like.
These divisive tactics now during the campaign season are suspect, to say the least.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)...clearly depressed me. How about you?
LAGC
(5,330 posts)I don't trust Mittens any further than I can throw him, when it comes to gun rights or anything else.
And nothing the OP says will change my mind on this matter, I will be early voting by absentee this year, I already ordered my ballot.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)This surprises you - how?
spin
(17,493 posts)It is impossible to know exactly what Romney supports or what his veins are as they change constantly.
He is not a waffler, he is a shape shifter.
(source: Romney the Shape Shifter http://www.republicansforobama.org/node/10060)
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 16, 2012, 04:36 PM - Edit history (1)
I should have said that he was sending out a loud signal that he is pro-RKBA at the moment but may change later in the day.
TPaine7
(4,286 posts)and agree that the "Obama economy" has been "disastrous." Apparently you also want us to know that "Ryan is... a finance whiz."
This is the wrong site.
rocktivity
(44,580 posts)rocktivity
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)Do you even fucking read these things before spamming the board with them?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)They'll be happy with the likes of Ryan . . . . . . . who is also a greedy, right wing, gun lover (whether in reality, or just as a politician trying to suck up to right wing gun loving voters).
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)that "American gun owners are mostly right wing, greedy, bigots"?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)has an Illinois FOID and is a gun owner. Can't find any sources I would actually use but if it is true?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Just glad he doesn't wear his guns on his sleeve like many gun cultists , or spend lots of time shooting sihoutte targets and playing with an arsenal of so-called "assault" weapons.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)but, with his current health problems he may be losing it if there is one to lose.
Wow, You don't know what a FOID is in Illinois? Never lived there. Drove through and been TDY there once, and I actually learn stuff from folks here.
A FOID is not a CCW. A FOID is the license folks need in Illinois to buy or possess firearms and ammo. For all either of us know he could be an avid skeet shooter.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Actually I did know it allows you to purchase guns. Do not know - or care - what it's an acronym for.
In any event, Jackson is not a gun nut. And yes, I suspect he'll lose his privilege - but I doubt he really gives a dang. Most of life is a lot more important than having guns and spending inordinate time preparing to shoot people.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Firearms Owners ID. He has bigger problems, regardless of how important he may or may not feel about gun rights.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)My father started teaching me to shoot a .22 before I was 6. I've owned guns & hunted all my life. At one point, many years ago, I was into handloading my own ammo. I don't keep anything around loaded with the idea of self-protection, but there are guns in my house.
Somehow it had always escaped my attention until now that I'm a greedy, right-wing bigot. Excuse me--gotta run. I just heard there's a Tea Party meeting in town tonight & I guess I might as well go & sign up now that I've been informed of my true identity.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Packing in public, obsession with so-called "assault" weapons, defending people who endorse shooting unarmed burglar in back whilebfleeing over a few belt buckles, training relentlessly with silhouette targets, etc., certainly make one suspect.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)And you take that at face value. Good thinking. Is this refined filtering process how you normally form your opinions, because if so I think I'm starting to understand your worldview.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)will be wondering "Paul who?"
rDigital
(2,239 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)unless rMoney starts flying around in single-engine aircraft at night on instruments in the fog.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)STILL no comment from the OP justifying putting up this Rmoney-loving Obama-bashing garbage from a website made up of nothing but ultra-conservative ravings.