If you had a gun,

[Tejas]

Last edited Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:52 PM - Edit history (1)

and walked in on Sandusky in the middle of one of his vile acts, your next step (assuming you would make an effort to immediately stop the attack) would be to:


1) Reason with him to stop.
2) Shoot him.
3) Attack him physically.
4) Not get involved.
5) Notify the police.



on edit: (assuming you would make an effort to immediately stop the attack)

[Hoyt]

1. You wouldn't need a gun to stop him, report him, have him arrested and imprisoned for good.

Although, it might be tempting to get one of you guys to handle him.

[Tejas]

2. So, you would not shoot, instead you would..........?

[Warpy]

3. I might point the gun at his head and tell him to drop the kid

and tell the kid to skedaddle. As soon as the kid was safe, I'd back out of the room and make the call.

However, just a yell from the distance might have the same effect as the gun, although not quite as scary.

The first object would be to get the kid safe. Shooting him in the act means shooting the kid in my case, my vision sucks just that much.

[gregoire]

26. Which would be endangering a child!

By pointing a gun at them! Gun owners never think of just how dangerous their actions are.

[Warpy]

28. Excuse me?

The way the sentence was constructed it was obvious the gun was not being pointed at the kid but at the perp.

Shame.

[gregoire]

30. And they are close together which makes it very dangerous for an untrained person...

to go around pointing guns at people! Again, gun people don't think logically when it comes to danger and risks.

[Tejas]

31. So you would let the rape continue?

[gregoire]

32. Why do gun owners only think in extremes?

Of course not.

[Tejas]

33. Well?

[GreenStormCloud]

36. Depends upon the distance the gunner is from them.

At a distance of under five feet there would be very little danger to the child if shooting were to be required. As the distance increased it would soon become too dangerous to the child to shoot.

Anti-gunners never think through an entire situation.

[Hoyt]

7. Just told you what I'd do? Since you started this dumbass poll, what would you do with your gun?

[Tejas]

9. So would you stop the attack or just taunt him with snarks?

[Trunk Monkey]

20. Hit him in the head w/ a can of beans? NT

[shadowrider]

23. Or my handy staff, or a stern voice, or roll a bicycle tire at him

or throw a benjamin or two his way.

[rl6214]

12. You wouldn't intervene? You would just go tell on him?

Maybe you could at least throw a can of beans at him to get him to stop.

[TPaine7]

15. So the rape could continue until the police got there?!

You wouldn't be stopping him, you would be asking someone else to stop him and hoping they responded. Meanwhile the rape would continue until Sandusky decided to stop or SOMEONE ELSE stopped him.

Oh well, at least you wouldn't use a gun.

[Hoyt]

16. Can you read -- I said "stop him." You might need a gun, but most of us wouldn't.

You guys can't even make an accurate assessment of a post, yet you carry a gun ready to make a decision to kill someone in a split second. You ought to reconsider.

[TPaine7]

17. Ok, mea culpa.

Assume that you had a gun and that you couldn't stop the rape without one.

What would you do then?

Which is a higher priority, avoiding gun use or stopping the rape?

[TPaine7]

18. Who told you I carry a gun? It certainly wasn't me. n/t

[DWC]

4. Really Bad Poll

Whether I had a gun or not I would:

1st - Stop the assault on the child using whatever force required;

2nd - Assure the child was protected from any further immediate threat;

3rd - Notify authorities and file charges.

Semper Fi,

[Tejas]

10. Sorry, I assumed stopping the attack was a given.

[littlewolf]

14. true all ...

a gun is not required to stop the assault ...
and if the assault was taking place in the
shower (as one did) the probably of him
having a hidden handgun is slim to none ..
a firearm is not needed ... now .. stomping
on various parts of his body .... well ......

[GreenStormCloud]

39. Depends upon relative strength.

I would not be able to stomp on various parts of his body. In that kind of fight, he would do the stomping of me. The gun would prevent me from getting stomped if he wanted to try it.

[petronius]

5. Politely wait for him to finish, and then ask if he could help me

get Joe Paterno's autograph?

Well, that's apparently what I'd say if I was one of thousands (not all, obviously) of Penn State alumni and students and football fans - but in reality I would intervene verbally at first, physically if necessary, and a call to as many police agencies as it took would absolutely be the followup. A gun would be very unlikely to be involved...

[Hoyt]

8. "Ask for Paterno's autograph" -- That's funny, and sickly true.

[ileus]

6. Earnhardt him.

Although if it were my child I can't rule out beating him to death with my sidearm.

[rl6214]

11. None of the above unless you would call physically pulling him off of/away from the child he is

assaulting.

[NewMoonTherian]

19. 3. Probably with some improvised weapon.

I like the idea of breaking a bench in half over that dirtbag's head.

If I thought the kid's life was in immediate danger(if Sandusky were strangling, suffocating or brutally beating the kid) I'd probably go straight for the gun. Priority one is saving the victim.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

21. IF I had seen that shit taking place I would have said "What the fucking hell is going on here?" --

- I would have jerked that child away and gave old Sandusky the stink eye from hell. and promise him that I would deal with his sorry ass later.


Then I would focus on the child. Comfort and console and seek medical attention and therapy and report it to the police and not some dumbass campus cop either.

[Lizzie Poppet]

24. #1...sort of.

By "reason with him to stop," I mean "draw down on him, order him to cease and desist, keep his hands where I can see them, etc." and I'd summon the police. This isn't like walking in on what might be assumed to be two consenting adults. The fact that one is obviously a minor child means it's a felony in progress, even if there is some appearance of consent.

If he complied and offered no threat, I'd have no ethical grounds to open fire (for all that there might be some temptation, I can't deny). I'd draw on him from the start, however, for two reasons. One is because I'm physically small (5'3", 109lbs), and thus my ability to compel compliance with just my voice and presence would be minimal. More importantly, though, Sandusky would suddenly have a very strong motivation to shut me up. I have no idea if he had violent tendencies at all..but I certainly wouldn't put myself in a position to find out the hard way, under those circumstances.

A larger, stronger person might have other options. But those options don't exist for me...

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

25. Having a gun a gun is irrelevent to the proper response.

If you fear for your safety, dial 9-1-1 immediately. If you think you'll be OK, speak up immediately. Either way, you've got to raise awareness.

I don't see why my Glock comes into play unless I'm attacked by Sandusky or something.

[rocktivity]

27. I'd say "Stop -- and get away from him --

or I'll shoot!"


rocktivity

[bluerum]

29. What trash.

[Tejas]

43. Correct, Sandusky is going to prison for the rest of his life.

Instead of being caught in the act by a CCW (that we know of) he's alive but won't be able to commit any more hideous crimes.

[4th law of robotics]

34. No lethal threat present

so no need for retaliating with lethal force (or the threat of lethal force).

A baseball bat on the other hand . . . no . . . I don't mean it. Call the cops.

[slackmaster]

35. I'd hold him for the police

Not too difficult to answer.

[Tejas]

38. No intervention?

edit: just asking.

[slackmaster]

40. Yes, I would attempt to persuade him to stop the attack

If necessary I would shoot.

[GreenStormCloud]

37. A gun is a last resort.

First I would use my cell to take a picture as evidence - if he doesn't see me. Then I would command him to stop and release the child as I called 911. I would have my hand in my pocket holding the gun ready if things went badly. I would get close enough to him before shooting that accuracy would be assured if I did have to shoot.

If he tried to escape I would let him. The police can catch him later.

[Atypical Liberal]

41. This is a ridiculous question.

If you catch a grown man buggering a boy, all you have to do is exclaim loudly, "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!?!" and it will be sufficient for the guy's pecker to wilt and have him shitting himself.

Your best weapon in this case is your cell phone video camera.

[krispos42]

42. *click* Freeze.

If he makes any move towards the kid,to escape, or towards his pants, shoot him. I will not give him a human shield, I will not let a sexual predator escape, and I will not let him get a weapon.

Call the kid over, tell him to get behind me and cover up.

Pull out cell phone, call 911, tell them I have a child molester at gunpoint.

Prepare to be disarmed, cuffed, and detained until things are sorted out.

Ask for a lawyer.

Go home very tired much, much later.

[guardian]

44. 2 other options

A) pistol whipping
B) a Lorena Bobbitt procedure