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Tejas

(4,759 posts)
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:40 AM Jul 2012

Fascist gun control

You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door.
Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers.

At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.

With your heart pumping, you reach down
beside your bed and pick up your shotgun.

You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it.
In the darkness, you make out two shadows.

One holds something that looks like a crowbar..
When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire.

The blast knocks both thugs to the floor.
One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside.
As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.

In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless..

Yours was never registered.
Police arrive and inform you
that the second burglar has died.

They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.
When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.

"What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.
"Only ten-to-twelve years,"
he replies, as if that's nothing.

"Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."

The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper.

Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys.

Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them.
Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times.

But the next day's headline says it all:
"Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die."
The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters..

As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media.

The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.


Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win.

The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects.

After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time.

The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.


A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted.

When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you..

Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man.

It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.

The judge sentences you to life in prison.








This case really happened.

On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one burglar and wounded a second.

In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term..




edit: copy/paste link, forum doesn't like parentheses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)#Burglary_and_shooting

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Fascist gun control (Original Post) Tejas Jul 2012 OP
I am grateful to live in a country permatex Jul 2012 #1
The law is bad enough 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #2
Well he did break the law of the land... No disputing that he was in fact guilty. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #3
I'm assuming there is some discretion in sentencing there 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #7
To my knowledge... Callisto32 Jul 2012 #9
He ended up serving 3 years - still too long. nt hack89 Jul 2012 #4
That is so frightening Rabid_Rabbit Jul 2012 #5
That'll teach him to be rude to society. ileus Jul 2012 #6
WOW! Marinedem Jul 2012 #8
Neither the first... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #10
 

permatex

(1,299 posts)
1. I am grateful to live in a country
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jul 2012

where you can legally own firearms and legally defend youself whether in you domicile or in public.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
2. The law is bad enough
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jul 2012

but what was the matter with the (12? I don't know british standards on this) jurors who voted to convict?

 

OneTenthofOnePercent

(6,268 posts)
3. Well he did break the law of the land... No disputing that he was in fact guilty.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:14 PM
Jul 2012

I don't know if the UK has jury nullification or is involved with sentencing, though. The sentence seems rediculous.

Callisto32

(2,997 posts)
9. To my knowledge...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:34 PM
Jul 2012

jury nullification has its roots in English Common Law.

Tangentially related:
Common law is the best law, generally. It is the result of real people wrestling with coming up with real solutions to real problems, on a case by case basis.

Modern "There's a code for that" law, on the other hand provides a rigid framework of poorly drafted laws of unintended consequences, that we have to common law our way around to get anything actually done, anyway.

Just my $0.02

ileus

(15,396 posts)
6. That'll teach him to be rude to society.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:17 PM
Jul 2012

hateful to house guests, and a non-lawabider...


Probably now an UK NRA member and UK teabagger bigot.

 

Marinedem

(373 posts)
8. WOW!
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jul 2012

I actually felt ill reading that story.

I can't imagine being so helpless in that situation.

Really puts things in perspective.

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