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Related: About this forumPolice say NY teen killed dad after ATM card fight
TROY, N.Y. (AP) -- Police say a 17-year-old upstate New York girl has aimed a rifle at her fathers head and killed him after the two argued over his ATM card.
The Times Union of Albany reports that Trinity Copeland confessed the shooting to investigators.
The newspaper says Trinity called 911 early Friday to report that her father, Harlan Copeland, had been shot in his Troy apartment.
http://www.berkshireeagle.com/ci_21077025/police-say-ny-teen-killed-dad-after-atm
Marinedem
(373 posts)We obviously need to ban greedy children.
For the children, of course...
permatex
(1,299 posts)And your point is..................................................What?
pscot
(21,024 posts)I have the faintest idea what you mean.
ileus
(15,396 posts)That's basically what this boils down to.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)The newspaper says the teen told police that her father ordered her to kill him -- or he would kill them both.
Trinity was arraigned on second-degree murder charges.
Did you even read the article you posted?
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)I posted the excerpt because it seemed no one else read that far.
Her father threatened her and she killed him. Wouldn't that qualify as "Stand Your Ground"?
permatex
(1,299 posts)at the very least, it's self defense. As far as I know, NY has no SYG laws so that point is moot.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Clames
(2,038 posts)..the answer is rather obvious. Of course, that requires you to actually read and educate yourself on the subject and I'm well aware that is asking a lot of you....
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Please share your "better understanding" of the law and give your opinion. She was threatened by her father and killed him. Would that qualify as "Stand Your Ground"?
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)It is inside the home, that alone makes SYG irrelevant. To answer your question, it depends on what the detailed evidence showed based on the "reasonable man" standard.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)shadowrider
(4,941 posts)Clames
(2,038 posts)There is no evidence she was threatened. She used a RIFLE which is not something easily or usually carried on one's person for self-defense purposes. Which means she would have had to leave the situation, get the rifle, then deliberately point it at him and pull the trigger. Not a SYG situation which is obvious to anyone with a luke warm education on the topic.
Think.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)Maybe you guys on the anti-gun side , some of them seem to think there should be some sort of comment when making a post like this.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)It's a news item shared for comment or discussion. If you have nothing to add please refrain from disrupting the thread.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)Clames
(2,038 posts)...by properly imitating the thread you started with some commentary. You don't walk up to a group at a party, drop a newspaper article at their feet and walk away do you? Well, maybe you do and I shouldn't expect better I guess...
sarisataka
(18,663 posts)hint-
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)nt
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)for becoming a parent.
When you look at the societal harm caused by irresponsible, untrained, and generally unfit people being allowed to reproduce (sometimes as many as *8* per gestation!) it becomes obvious that unlicensed reproduction is not something we can allow to continue.
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)The foundation for an interesting debate.