Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
27 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Repeal the hughes amendment (Original Post) ileus Jun 2012 OP
The right wing groups/militias will love having a few fully auto weapons (machine guns). Hoyt Jun 2012 #1
Since 1934 how many crimes have been committed with LEGALLY owned full-auto? GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #2
IIRC, one of those SMGs might have been registered to the local PD gejohnston Jun 2012 #5
Yes, it was. For a long time it was the only crime with a legal full-auto. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #9
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #6
How many have been committed with ILLEGALLY owned full auto weapons? Trunk Monkey Jun 2012 #14
In the US? I doubt many gejohnston Jun 2012 #15
Irrelevant. The discussion is about LEGALLY owned full-auto. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #23
At least they'd finally be affordable for the 99%er's shooter. ileus Jun 2012 #3
Only reason they are big money is that a lot of gun nuts have to have one. That is sick. Hoyt Jun 2012 #8
People like them because they are interesting, and one more thing that people like Hoyt despise... slackmaster Jun 2012 #12
If I made purchases based on what Hoyt despises, I'd be destitute. n/t NewMoonTherian Jun 2012 #18
I like guns Trunk Monkey Jun 2012 #20
Nope the big money was created when the Fed said none shall pass.... ileus Jun 2012 #21
Thank you for posting this! NewMoonTherian Jun 2012 #4
Good Democrat sponsored Amendment, and you guys are going to hope Republicans repeal it based upon Hoyt Jun 2012 #7
I fixed it for you... -..__... Jun 2012 #13
You forgot a couple things. NewMoonTherian Jun 2012 #17
Yes. I absolutely cannot wait until it is repealed. NewMoonTherian Jun 2012 #19
Another NFA amnesty would be nice too. -..__... Jun 2012 #11
I agree 100%... OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #10
Hold on now, think about all the investment guns! Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #16
I'm safe...my investment guns are mostly 98%+ semiautos from the first half of the 20th Century. Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #22
The Hughes ammendment blows. Marinedem Jun 2012 #24
Feel free to donate tons of $ safeinOhio Jun 2012 #25
SAF goes to the Supremes gejohnston Jun 2012 #26
I'd love to see it repealed Meiko Jun 2012 #27

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
2. Since 1934 how many crimes have been committed with LEGALLY owned full-auto?
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 09:59 AM
Jun 2012

The answer is: TWO. Two crimes in 78 years. That doesn't sound like much of a problem to me.

Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #2)

 

Trunk Monkey

(950 posts)
14. How many have been committed with ILLEGALLY owned full auto weapons?
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 01:20 PM
Jun 2012

I can't imagine the same cartels that move hundreds of thousands of tons of drugs into our country every year would have much of a problem getting a machine gun or two in

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
15. In the US? I doubt many
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 01:29 PM
Jun 2012

because of the price and the mandatory min. of 30 years having one for committing federal crimes. Mexico and Europe? Not so much.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
23. Irrelevant. The discussion is about LEGALLY owned full-auto.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 05:18 PM
Jun 2012

Stopping me from having full-auto doesn't stop a criminal from having full-auto. BTW - I don't want full-auto anyway, even if it was legal. Full-auto is a great way to turn ammo into noise with no guarantee of hitting anything. To be controllable a sub-machinegun has to be too large to be concealable. And full-auto is EXPENSIVE to feed.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
3. At least they'd finally be affordable for the 99%er's shooter.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:04 AM
Jun 2012

I don't know about your RW/militia claim..


However.com

There's big money in full auto's, now the systems is rigged to where it's a dealer/LEO/ 1%er plaything ; bringing affordable full autos to the 99% of us should be a desire for every progressive gun owner.

Even though I'd still have little or no use for one unless is was chambered in the affordable to shoot 22lr. (some videos on youtube if interested)

This would make it legal to sell new manufactured autos to the 99% of us, and still keep NFA laws intact to weed out the riff-raff.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
12. People like them because they are interesting, and one more thing that people like Hoyt despise...
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jun 2012

They are fun to shoot.

 

Trunk Monkey

(950 posts)
20. I like guns
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 02:52 PM
Jun 2012

but I lost all interest in owning a fully automatic weapon the first time I had to hump an M-60 on a 25 mile road march.

I wouldn't mind an M1928 but I'd hate to have to pay to feed it

ileus

(15,396 posts)
21. Nope the big money was created when the Fed said none shall pass....
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jun 2012

after May, 19 1986....the cost was artificially created by a bogus feel good law.


The law of supply and demand works it seems...Lift this ban and we can all have a chance at owning one of the finest machines ever devised by mankind.

Of course feeding the wonderful devices is still another story.

NewMoonTherian

(883 posts)
4. Thank you for posting this!
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:54 AM
Jun 2012

Are gun owners in this country finally going to come together and start the work of doing away with this unconstitutional piece of garbage?

Repealing the Hughes Amendment is the first step, and a big one that will right a great wrong, but our eventual goal should be to completely rework, or scrap and replace the NFA.



EDIT: I signed and invited all my FB friends to do the same. 200 more signatures is not that lofty a goal. Let's get this done by next week, shall we?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Good Democrat sponsored Amendment, and you guys are going to hope Republicans repeal it based upon
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jun 2012

your petitions. How nice.

NewMoonTherian

(883 posts)
17. You forgot a couple things.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 02:18 PM
Jun 2012

Shady, shifty Democrat sponsored Amendment, passed through criminally fraudulent means without the support of a majority of the House of Representatives. A D in front of the author's name does not a good amendment make. I hope the Republicans and Democrats work together to redeem the reputation of Congress by trashing this travesty of a law.

NewMoonTherian

(883 posts)
19. Yes. I absolutely cannot wait until it is repealed.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jun 2012

And then I'm going to start petitioning against another bad law, and another, and another, until I'm dead or there are no more bad laws. Call me an idealist.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
11. Another NFA amnesty would be nice too.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jun 2012

The last one was in late 68.

Since then... there's no telling how many bring backs, firearms of historical significance have been sent to the smelter, and/or still squirreled away in grand dads attic.

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
22. I'm safe...my investment guns are mostly 98%+ semiautos from the first half of the 20th Century.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 04:46 PM
Jun 2012

Like this one:



Oh, I'm sorry...was that gun porn?

 

Marinedem

(373 posts)
24. The Hughes ammendment blows.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 09:51 PM
Jun 2012

It's classist and in blatant defiance of the 2nd amendment to it''s very core. It needs to be gone yesterday.

As someone said earlier, down with one unjust piece of legislation, then onto the rest!

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
27. I'd love to see it repealed
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 11:15 AM
Jun 2012

I could finally afford some company for my M11. Full auto's are fun, just plain fun. Yes they are expensive to shoot but I don't shoot mine that often.The real problem with owning one is all the damned paperwork you have to do, it's ridiculous. Mine has a suppressor so I got the double whammy. It is just an organized screw job by the Fed's. Then you have to pay the $200.00 tax for each item. Some items like short barreled shotguns are less I believe. I would definitely like to see this amendment go away.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»Repeal the hughes amendme...