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Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 12:22 PM Jun 2012

Oxfam: Sale of ammunition 'must be regulated'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18269837

Humanitarian charity Oxfam has launched a new campaign to call for the regulation of the sale of ammunition around the world. It comes ahead of a United Nations summit in July on bringing in a new arms trade treaty to regulate the sale of arms. Oxfam is arguing that any treaty must also regulate ammunition trade or the treaty "doesn't make sense". But a number of nations, including the US and China, oppose such a move.

Egypt, Syria, Russia, Iran, Venezuela and several other countries are also against including ammunition trade in any final treaty, arguing that it will be too difficult to monitor. In a new report, Oxfam found that the global ammunitions industry for small arms and light weapons is worth $4.3bn (£2.78bn), much more than the trade in the weapons themselves, with 12 billion bullets produced a year.

Anna Macdonald, head of arms control at the charity, said: "A gun without a bullet is a very large metal stick, basically. Ammunition is literally the fuel of conflict. "The trade in ammunition is lucrative, but while the monetary cost of production is low, the price paid in human lives for the trade in ammunition is incalculable."

The parameters of the new treaty, if is is passed, will be worked at a month-long UN conference in July between arms companies, governments and aid agencies. A draft treaty which would ban all weapons sales to countries that fail to meet various human rights criteria has already been provisionally agreed to by 153 counties. The aim is for it to bring various international laws governing the sale of arms into one legally-binding treaty.



Oxfam says 12 billion bullets are produced each year - almost two for every person in the world

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Only two a year? Well, I guess I have my "fair share" of them at this point, with (roughly) 17,500 years of production in my inventory at this time!
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Oxfam: Sale of ammunition 'must be regulated' (Original Post) Johnny Rico Jun 2012 OP
35,000 rounds? safeinOhio Jun 2012 #1
I like having 300 to 400 rounds for each gun in the collection. Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #2
While impressing your fellow gun extremest, your post safeinOhio Jun 2012 #6
No, it is you who does a disservice to this forum to suggest a star is need to be taken seriously. aikoaiko Jun 2012 #7
He's pulled this crap before SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #8
He's done that shit to me mannnyyyy times. rl6214 Jun 2012 #66
I got a star. BiggJawn Jun 2012 #9
wow...hyperbole much backwoodsbob Jun 2012 #10
Why in the world do you care how much I've spent on guns? Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #11
I agree with you SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #12
If you find my post very disturbing, please safeinOhio Jun 2012 #14
I don't alert. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #15
X 100 NT Simo 1939_1940 Jun 2012 #23
You think having the sorts of collections talked about in this thread makes one "rich"? Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #16
What is with you people and the Princess Bride? ellisonz Jun 2012 #38
Sad you had to look that up... Clames Jun 2012 #50
Yeah I'm cool with not being obsessed with a meme... ellisonz Jun 2012 #53
what about small animals? gejohnston Jun 2012 #63
Wrong on more counts... Clames Jun 2012 #64
"In fact, the vast majority of DU applauds her efforts." PavePusher Jun 2012 #72
He must have missed... Clames Jun 2012 #78
What, you ran out of cartoons to post? PavePusher Jun 2012 #71
Nope - whole bunch more lately (it's backlash) ellisonz Jun 2012 #76
Rich? Hardly. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #17
right on gejohnston Jun 2012 #18
Sorry you feel that way. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #22
"Thank God someone is here to pay for this site so you may do so." PavePusher Jun 2012 #73
I pay for my use by having ads on my screen. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #87
That pretty much says it all Meiko Jun 2012 #46
"I'm happy to help provide this forum for all of you rich folks." Simo 1939_1940 Jun 2012 #24
I'm glad I was able to do that for you. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #25
since you are having a war gejohnston Jun 2012 #26
This is all I could afford. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #27
I have one of those too gejohnston Jun 2012 #28
Half the time, this is the other safeinOhio Jun 2012 #29
Don't see many Seecamps gejohnston Jun 2012 #30
The small gun you have is much more effective safeinOhio Jun 2012 #32
I was not knocking the calibers gejohnston Jun 2012 #36
Well said. n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #74
Owning a Walther... Clames Jun 2012 #80
Your false humility is noted. aikoaiko Jun 2012 #37
Your lust with Johnny Rico's stats is what's disturbing. Tejas Jun 2012 #85
C) Glassunion Jun 2012 #19
LOL! Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #31
I've seen members here with 20,000+ posts... Clames Jun 2012 #13
5 bucks? since when? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #21
So, you get to draw the lines, eh? PavePusher Jun 2012 #70
"35,000 rounds of bullets" Remmah2 Jun 2012 #84
500 rounds per firearm is a good number ProgressiveProfessor Jun 2012 #3
I've never had that much... mvccd1000 Jun 2012 #4
Costco. Sam's Club. PavePusher Jun 2012 #5
He's preparing for the revolution... ellisonz Jun 2012 #39
You do know that buying non-perishable items in bulk is a great way to save money, right? petronius Jun 2012 #40
It also can be a sign of hoarding... ellisonz Jun 2012 #41
Who are you calling a "right-wing nut"? petronius Jun 2012 #42
I'm calling preppers right-wing nuts... ellisonz Jun 2012 #43
guilt by association anyone? gejohnston Jun 2012 #44
"Item" =/= "food" petronius Jun 2012 #45
We're talking about hoarding... ellisonz Jun 2012 #47
No, we never were. We *were* talking about a DUer who petronius Jun 2012 #48
I'm capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time... ellisonz Jun 2012 #49
you assume way too much. gejohnston Jun 2012 #51
OP referenced 35,000 rounds. n/t ellisonz Jun 2012 #54
Your athletic abilities aren't the issue here, ellison petronius Jun 2012 #55
There are no right-wingers in the DU Gungeon. ellisonz Jun 2012 #57
Nice non-response - is it so hard to take responsibility for your own behavior? petronius Jun 2012 #58
I don't see anything wrong with my behavior, pops. ellisonz Jun 2012 #59
You have unprovokedly accused another DUer of being "nutty," RW, petronius Jun 2012 #60
And I regret none of it... ellisonz Jun 2012 #62
He's got issues. Clames Jun 2012 #67
everyone knows 2a supporters are trolls ileus Jun 2012 #69
Wrong again. Clames Jun 2012 #52
"those who are trying to make sure events like Katrina and Joplin" ellisonz Jun 2012 #56
was he talking about ammo in that situation? gejohnston Jun 2012 #61
In case you haven't noticed... Clames Jun 2012 #65
Who said it was for emergency preparedness? Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #68
Don't die on us now... ellisonz Jun 2012 #77
Still here! Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #90
Best of luck with the operation - I hope it goes smoothly and painlessly! petronius Jun 2012 #79
It did go well! They were able to save most of my kidney. Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #91
So, you're trying to say.... PavePusher Jun 2012 #92
Rimfires have an entirely new appeal at the moment. Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #93
Great news! Glad to see you back... petronius Jun 2012 #94
Welcome back!!! Glad to hear that you survived your journey under the knife. oneshooter Jun 2012 #95
Thanks! Recovery does take a while... Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #96
Did he actually say he was "preparing for the revolution"? Marengo Jun 2012 #83
I'm going to ask again: Did he actually say he was "preparing for the revolution"? N/T Marengo Jun 2012 #88
Worked some overtime last week BiggJawn Jun 2012 #33
Where did you find M2 HXP? And how much? oneshooter Jun 2012 #34
CMP BiggJawn Jun 2012 #35
What's your opinion of the HPX? PavePusher Jun 2012 #75
Well, with nothing else to compare it to... BiggJawn Jun 2012 #81
HPX is Greek manufactured M2 ball. It is very clean shooting , non corrosive, and oneshooter Jun 2012 #82
Is this why Academy no longer stocks 9x18? Tejas Jun 2012 #86
...but the sale of congress should not be regulated. L0oniX Jun 2012 #89
 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
2. I like having 300 to 400 rounds for each gun in the collection.
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jun 2012

In any case, all the ammo fits in a couple of closets.

The guns? Not so much...

safeinOhio

(32,736 posts)
6. While impressing your fellow gun extremest, your post
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 08:16 AM
Jun 2012

does little to sway anyone that is not a gun extremest. Perhaps you post this stuff just to piss off all the others.
Lets see, you post here about 9 times per day, average for the last 90 days. You have about 90 guns, must be worth at least 30 to 40 grand. 35,000 rounds of bullets, must be at least another 4 or 5 grand. You and the other folks that have posted, all think this is cool, and yet none of you can afford 5 bucks to support this forum that you most likely, by post count, spend more time on than at the range. Of course this doesn't even count your dues to the NRA.

Hint, if you want to convince others you are democrats and not gun nuts, buy a star and quit bragging about your vast arsenals.

I'm not anti-gun. I own about 8 guns and have 400 rounds of 22s on hand, that's what I shoot at the range and another 200 rounds of other. I have a CCW and support the right for legal gun owners to buy guns and carry them. I also support better training for CCW permits and registration of handguns, along with mandatory background checks on all handgun sales, including private sales. I also post on many topics that relate to liberal causes. I'm semi-retired on a fixed income and take personal responsibility for supporting forums that I use, like this one, with my donations.

I think I can influence more people to accept gun ownership, which goes a long way to maintaining our gun rights, than those that post this kind of comment. You do a disservice to the gun cause and only cause others to question people that own guns.

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
7. No, it is you who does a disservice to this forum to suggest a star is need to be taken seriously.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 09:15 AM
Jun 2012

How utterly fucking embarrassing for you that you don't realize it.

Disagree with the content of his post, but don't pull this "you must pay to play" bullshit.

 

SGMRTDARMY

(599 posts)
8. He's pulled this crap before
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 09:30 AM
Jun 2012

not buying a star don't mean jack and his constant battering of gun owners tells us just where he really stands. I just laugh and move on.

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
9. I got a star.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 10:18 AM
Jun 2012

I'm a "Star-Belly Sneetch", does that give ME more street cred than anybody else?

Shame on you for trying to put Grovel-Bot out of a job.

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
11. Why in the world do you care how much I've spent on guns?
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 12:09 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sat Jun 2, 2012, 02:11 PM - Edit history (2)

(just for the record, I prefer to invest in high-grade curio & relic pistols, so the collection is worth more like $75 grand )

Hint, if you want to convince others you are democrats and not gun nuts,

Who says you can't be both?

buy a star and quit bragging about your vast arsenals.

I don't care how you spend your money. Why do you care how I spend mine?

I also post on many topics that relate to liberal causes.

As do I. Only 25% of my posts are in this group; I mostly post in GD. On the other hand, I see that 52% of your posts are in this group, so if anyone is spending the majority of their posting time obsessing with guns, it's not me...!

I also support...registration of handguns, along with mandatory background checks on all handgun sales, including private sales.

How nice for you! I support none of those. It's none of The State's business.

I think I can influence more people to accept gun ownership, which goes a long way to maintaining our gun rights, than those that post this kind of comment. You do a disservice to the gun cause and only cause others to question people that own guns.

Influence anti-gun people on this forum to be more accepting of gun rights?



I'm sure Hoyt and the late, unlamented Iverglas will be coming around to the pro-gun rights side any day now...

No one here is changing minds and influencing people. While there may be the extremely rare exceptions, all the millions of posts on this site which address politics do is either:

a) reinforce long-held opinions ("Conservatives suck!" "Ditto!&quot , or
b) allow people to engage in confrontational arguments that sway neither side ("Guns are horrible, ban 'em!" "Out of my cold dead hands, you blankety-blank...&quot

Granted, if you include the Lounge, another option appears.

c) "Here's a picture of a funny cat." "LOL!"


 

SGMRTDARMY

(599 posts)
12. I agree with you
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 12:18 PM
Jun 2012

Its none of his damned business what we spend our money on, I myself have a collection worth appox. $100,000, this includes ammo, mags., and accessories.

I find his post very disturbing and he shoud modify it.

safeinOhio

(32,736 posts)
14. If you find my post very disturbing, please
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 08:05 PM
Jun 2012

feel free to report it and send it to a jury.

Thank everyone for their opinion.

I'm happy to help provide this forum for all of you rich folks. It is a privilege and an honor to do so.

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
16. You think having the sorts of collections talked about in this thread makes one "rich"?
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 08:29 PM
Jun 2012


By world standards, granted...but certainly not by U.S. standards.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
38. What is with you people and the Princess Bride?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jun 2012

I swear, I had to even look up the reference, and then I giggled at the childish nature of the infatuation with whatever meme-value it had. I swear, if I didn't know any better, I would say some of you haven't progressed much beyond the age of dolls and action figures...



(Note to jurors: it's true, you'll see them bust this one out every time they try to distort the underpinnings of a factual analysis.)

P.S. Rob Reiner would laugh so hard he would have a heart attack if he saw his film being used in this way.

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
50. Sad you had to look that up...
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 03:39 PM
Jun 2012

...guess you don't get out too much


Given some of the tantrums and insults you display pretty much removes any doubt that dolls, action figures and coloring books make up a large part of your activities away from DU.




at the preemptive jury instructions. Those didn't help iverglas. The irony isn't lost on you I hope.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
53. Yeah I'm cool with not being obsessed with a meme...
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:06 PM
Jun 2012

...from a 1987 children's movie. I do interact with children often so yeah I play with kids toys with kids. What's your excuse? Replace your stuffed animal collection with guns?

How are you with small animals?

P.S. Iverglas wasn't banned for anything having to do with the Gungeon. In fact, the vast majority of DU applauds her efforts. Why are you here again?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
63. what about small animals?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:39 PM
Jun 2012
Iverglas wasn't banned for anything having to do with the Gungeon.
True, she could get away with her irrational rants here, but taking them to Meta and LBGT was too much. BTW, what does she have against lesbians and trans-gendered?

In fact, the vast majority of DU applauds her efforts. Why are you here again?
I don't know about that. The party in Meta didn't look like a wake to me.
 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
64. Wrong on more counts...
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:19 PM
Jun 2012

...your aren't s much swinging as blindly flailing...


I'm great with animals small and large too. What you are trying to insinuate just proves you really have no lower bounds when it comes to childish insults.



PS: I didn't say iverglas was banned for anything dealing with this group in particular. She did often attempt to instruct jurors in a preemptive manner. Shouldn't have to do that unless you have problems keeping to a civil discussion.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
72. "In fact, the vast majority of DU applauds her efforts."
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:22 AM
Jun 2012

So, if enough people "applaud... efforts", we can say that 2+3=4, amIright?

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
78. He must have missed...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:28 AM
Jun 2012

...the 1000+ post thread applauding her removal from DU. Majority spoke and her "efforts" are now old news and their absence is not much lamented..

 

SGMRTDARMY

(599 posts)
17. Rich? Hardly.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 08:40 PM
Jun 2012

I live on my military pension.
Its taken me years to acquire the firearm collection I have today.
The only thing I'm rich in is my life experiences, so take your little snarky remarks elsewhere please.

safeinOhio

(32,736 posts)
20. Sorry you feel that way.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 09:48 PM
Jun 2012

Feel free to post your thoughts. Thank God someone is here to pay for this site so you may do so. I'm more than happy to help supply you with the this forum. I would ask those that use it and do have the funds to help keep it going. I too am retired and do work a couple of days at a week at a minimum wage job to pay for my extras in life. I'm glad my donation helps you have a place to post. This is not a snarky remark, it is heart felt, and because I help support this place, I feel no need to take my comments anywhere else.

Response to safeinOhio (Reply #20)

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
73. "Thank God someone is here to pay for this site so you may do so."
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:25 AM
Jun 2012

So, how much of this sites finances come through "donations" and how much via the ad banners?

Seems to me the biggest perk, aside from the bragging, would be the absence of the ads... or do you still get them?

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
87. I pay for my use by having ads on my screen.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:04 PM
Jun 2012

The money DU gets from ads spends just as well as donation money.

Simo 1939_1940

(768 posts)
24. "I'm happy to help provide this forum for all of you rich folks."
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 10:22 PM
Jun 2012

Ahhhh.......so now it's clear that petty jealousy is at play here.

Thanks for clearing that up!

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
28. I have one of those too
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 10:40 PM
Jun 2012

you have good taste in pistols. I love Walthers. Found a TPH at a gun show last month. That is not your CCW is it?

safeinOhio

(32,736 posts)
32. The small gun you have is much more effective
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jun 2012

than the large gun you don't have. FBI statistic show most gun fights are at 7 feet away and only about 10% of those six shots fired hit a target. My little pea shooters are very fast and accurate. If I can get off a couple of shots, I have a good chance of escaping before I am shot.

The only time I have fired a gun in self-defense was against a 100 lb feral rottweiler. One shot in the shoulder and it howled a death scream, turned and ran away. That proved to me you can put a world of hurt on with a 22 or 32. On my person, I never carry anything larger. My little Seecamp can be well hidden wearing tight running shorts and a tank top. A 45, not so much.

My philosophy of self-defense is to get away as fast and safely as possible. But that is just me. I fear dogs more than people. I've had guns pulled on me a few times while I was unarmed and managed to be either quicker or talk my way out. There is not much talking to a mad dog. A small caliber is less likely to kill anyone in the cross fire too.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
36. I was not knocking the calibers
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:38 AM
Jun 2012

My FIL carried a Beretta Tomcat. I would use a smaller .22 like the TPH, if I were to use a .22. Seecamps are good guns, just rare and expensive. .32s were common police rounds at one time. IIRC, West Germany used Walther PPs in .32 until the the 1970s when they switched to a 9mm. Instead of destroying them, they sold them on the commercial market. Interarms bought some and importing them to the US. I remember that only because the number of Walther PPs showing up in pawn shops in my hometown.

My theory of self-defense is to what is tactically the best thing to do at the time. Not something I never put much thought in mostly because I have either lead a charmed life or just do a good job of avoiding and deterring even in places like Manila.
If I were to get a CCW, I would go for either .32 or .380. Problem with the latter is that it is too popular and was impossible to find during the great ammo shortage. The few I could find was being sold by gouging assholes. My HSc stayed home from the range.

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
80. Owning a Walther...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:43 AM
Jun 2012

...and a Seecamp doesn't exactly put you in with the paupers. In fact, the current asking price for a LWS 380 would put one in the market for a H&K.

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
13. I've seen members here with 20,000+ posts...
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jun 2012

...and no star by their name. Do you actually have a point with that? I influence people into gun ownership quite regularly. I do so by training them. I do so by discussion of laws governing CCW permits and regulations. I do so by discussing actual common sense measures that would impact crime and not on laws that do nothing but add burden to people looking to exercise a Constitutional right.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
70. So, you get to draw the lines, eh?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:17 AM
Jun 2012

Please state exactly what limits are O.K., and what is not, so we can all march in step.

mvccd1000

(1,534 posts)
4. I've never had that much...
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 12:15 AM
Jun 2012

... but it's easy to go through 500 rounds in a single morning of plinking out in the desert. If you happen to like to go more than once a week, I can see buying ammo by the case, especially if you can avoid paying retail prices by doing so.

petronius

(26,606 posts)
40. You do know that buying non-perishable items in bulk is a great way to save money, right?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012


You may want to spend a bit of time here - seems like you have much to learn...

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
41. It also can be a sign of hoarding...
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:02 PM
Jun 2012

I think I'll spend my time here and here learning more about eating green and healthy rather than living off of MRE's like some right-wing nut...

petronius

(26,606 posts)
42. Who are you calling a "right-wing nut"?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:10 PM
Jun 2012

And who mentioned MREs?

Seriously, if you don't perceive the vast gulf between cost-effective bulk buying and any sort of clinically-defined hoarding, then you should cut up both your Costco card and your membership in the Amateur Internet Psychiatrist Club...

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
44. guilt by association anyone?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jun 2012

sounds like it. Some preppers are left wing nuts. Besides, if you live near the coast, non-perishables and water is a good thing to have around during hurricane season.

petronius

(26,606 posts)
45. "Item" =/= "food"
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:50 PM
Jun 2012
We're talking about bullets here, remember?

And it still looks likes you called another DUer a prepper = RW nut. not cool...

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
47. We're talking about hoarding...
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:59 PM
Jun 2012

...and motives thereof.

How else would you describe someone with enough ammunition to wage a small scale guerrilla war?

petronius

(26,606 posts)
48. No, we never were. We *were* talking about a DUer who
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 03:06 PM
Jun 2012

saved some money in a common and rational way, but now we're talking about your biases, amateur diagnoses, and unprovoked personal attacks on that DUer.

Why don't you just admit to your petty and knee-jerk attempt to insult a gun-ownig DUer, and apologize for the disruption?

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
49. I'm capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time...
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 03:31 PM
Jun 2012

...a fuck-ton of ammunition and non-perishable food supply screams right-wing prepper.

Also, that's not frugal, that's nutty, you're buying shit you don't need barring the end of civilization.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
51. you assume way too much.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 03:40 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Where did he say anything about "end of the world Mad Max stuff?" Are you saying NOAA and FEMA are crazy right wing sites?
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/prepare/ready.php
http://www.ready.gov/basic-disaster-supplies-kit

buying stuff you are going to use in bulk is not hoarding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_hoarding

500 rounds a fucking ton? Get fucking real. For me, that is about four or five trips to the range. I bought artsy canisters of Remington .22 rounds. Each canister had paintings by Fredrick Remington. The complete set of four had about 10K rounds.

Here is a question, where do you get that preppers are mostly right wing? What if they were mostly left wing? Why does it matter where they fit on the oversimplified and mostly imaginary left/right scale? Just because I follow NOAA's and my state government's advise on preparing for hurricanes (or tornado when I was in Kansas) does not mean I am expecting to enjoy life in a nuclear wasteland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivalism

petronius

(26,606 posts)
55. Your athletic abilities aren't the issue here, ellison
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jun 2012

Why are you so intent on doubling- and tripling-down in your personal attacks against another DUer (RW, "nutty", preparing for guerrilla war)?

Aside from your willful disregard for courtesy and civil discourse, all you're really demonstrating is your ignorance of recreational shooting and a strange incomprehension of basic shopping strategies...

petronius

(26,606 posts)
60. You have unprovokedly accused another DUer of being "nutty," RW,
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:33 PM
Jun 2012

preparing for a guerrilla war, and suffering from a mental illness - all in this one short sub-thread. And you honestly don't see how your behavior is seriously inappropriate?

(Not to mention that question about small animals you posted up thread - I'm not sure what to make of that.)

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
67. He's got issues.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:21 PM
Jun 2012

Don't think he'll be long following a recently departed DU'er. Only so much tolerance for making DU suck these days...

ileus

(15,396 posts)
69. everyone knows 2a supporters are trolls
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jun 2012

Get with the program...real democrats don't believe in the 2A.

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
52. Wrong again.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jun 2012

Chalk up another strike for slugger.


You are insulting people in an ignorant and all to obvious way. Coming from you that isn't terribly surprising but calling those who even take relatively small steps towards emergency preparedness right wing nuts is a new low. Pity you are so ignorant of the efforts of those who are trying to make sure events like Katrina and Joplin cause minimal human suffering. Disgusting

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
56. "those who are trying to make sure events like Katrina and Joplin"
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:09 PM
Jun 2012

Yeah clearly the problem in those cases was an insufficient supply of arms and ammunition to the populace -

BTW if you haven't noticed - this is a Democratic board - rational emergency preparedness is not 35,000 rounds of ammunition.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
61. was he talking about ammo in that situation?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:34 PM
Jun 2012
BTW if you haven't noticed - this is a Democratic board - rational emergency preparedness is not 35,000 rounds of ammunition.
That depends. If you have to hunt for food and your marksmanship sucks as bad as Sarah Palin's 35K is rational.

That aside, the 35K rounds could be a couple of boxes for a large and diverse collection. OTOH, maybe getting a great deal of something you are going to use at the range anyway.
 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
65. In case you haven't noticed...
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:26 PM
Jun 2012

..you are not an authority on all things Democratic. Not even close

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
68. Who said it was for emergency preparedness?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:21 PM
Jun 2012

Each time I purchase a gun, I like to get 300 to 400 rounds to go with it.

On a side note, it is interesting how often we see you attack the character of a poster rather than his or her arguments. That's normally indicative of someone who has no logical support for their position.

And on with that, I'll have to bow out of the conversation for a while. Having a partial nephrectomy (kidney removal) does put a bit of a crimp in one's internet coversations, and pre-op begins tomorrow morning.

I barely have time to order a few hundred rounds of 7.65x22 French Long for the 1935A (it's Nazi-marked in 97%!) that showed up at my door shortly before I flew out here to Cleveland Clinic for my operation. Having a C&R FFL is fun!

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
91. It did go well! They were able to save most of my kidney.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 08:13 PM
Jun 2012

As for being painless, I can now attest that morphine is great. Didn't feel a thing until they took it away...now I'm home and making do with percoset.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
92. So, you're trying to say....
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 09:25 PM
Jun 2012

...that you won't feel up to shooting magnum rifles for a few days?



Glad everything went well, here's to a smooth recovery...

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
93. Rimfires have an entirely new appeal at the moment.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:05 PM
Jun 2012

The No. 5 Mk 1 Jungle Carbine and M44 M-N carbine are going to continue gathering dust for a while...I might be up to shooting my Walther PPK, but only if I use the 4mm conversion kit. .32 ACP is a bit too much for me to handle right now!

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
95. Welcome back!!! Glad to hear that you survived your journey under the knife.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jun 2012

Start slow, maybe a nice 22 pistol, slow fire. Then work your way up to a 32cal then a 38. Got to get into shape before tackeling the larger ones.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
96. Thanks! Recovery does take a while...
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 08:30 AM
Jun 2012

Yesterday was the first day that I went most of the day without taking a percoset...a 15" incision takes a while to heal!

As for pistols, I still haven't shot my new Ruger Mk III, and it should be a hoot to fire with the silencer I got got for it ("only" 7 months for the paperwork to clear on that...). Maybe in a couple of weeks.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
83. Did he actually say he was "preparing for the revolution"?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:02 AM
Jun 2012

I don't see it in the OP but could very well have missed it there or elsewhere in the thread.

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
33. Worked some overtime last week
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:17 AM
Jun 2012

Can of M-2 HXP and 2 SPAM cans of 7.62X54 on the way... Another brick of .22, some more .45 ACP...

And with all these freakin' cannibals running around loose, maybe I should get some of that Zombie Max stuff...

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
35. CMP
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:16 AM
Jun 2012

$98 for a can of 200 loose. Most of it mid-70's.
I'm 1/2 way through my first can full.
www.odcmp.org

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
75. What's your opinion of the HPX?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:33 AM
Jun 2012

I'm seriously considering getting some, and I don't even have a Garand yet. But it should work well in my Eddystone, if I ever get it cleaned up and the sights fixed...

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
81. Well, with nothing else to compare it to...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:07 AM
Jun 2012

Hard to say. It loads, it goes "BANG!" it cycles the action... It will work in any .30-06 arm.
As to accuracy, I think it's more accurate than I am.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
82. HPX is Greek manufactured M2 ball. It is very clean shooting , non corrosive, and
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:26 AM
Jun 2012

very accurate ammo. I currently have only 3 crates of it and am looking to restock. It is available,or was, in both 8rd Garand clips or 5rd strippers.

Great ammo for the price.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

 

Tejas

(4,759 posts)
86. Is this why Academy no longer stocks 9x18?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:09 AM
Jun 2012

It was $10/50 in their Monarch brand, now only Gander Mountain has Blazer at $27/50. Are Academy and Dander Mountain in cahoots? Is it a plot to price small arms owners out of the market?

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