Holly Adams’ Statement on the Virginia Tech Massacre and Campus Carry

[beevul]

Holly Adams’ Statement on the Virginia Tech Massacre and Campus Carry

On April 16, 2007, my child, Leslie Sherman, was killed by Seung-Hui Cho during the Virginia Tech massacre. Today is the fifth anniversary of her death. Always in my memories, every day I wish that this tragedy was a nightmare and I could wake up to hold my daughter even if it is just one more time. That opportunity might have been possible if someone been able to defend and protect my daughter in her classroom before Cho took 30 precious lives . . .


There is an unfortunate drive for more gun control and the continuation of preventing guns on campus by parents whose children lived or survived during that fatal day. Several family members of those victims have actively voiced their support for increased gun control measures. As result, it has been assumed that they speak for all families of the Virginia Tech victims. I am writing this to make it clear that this is not the case. They do not represent me and my views.

Speaking for myself, I would give anything if someone on campus; a professor, one of the trained military or guardsman taking classes or another student could have saved my daughter by shooting Cho before he killed our loved ones. Because professors, staff and students are precluded from protecting themselves on campus, Cho, a student at Virginia Tech himself, was able to simply walk on campus and go on a killing rampage with no worry that anyone would stop him.

I ask a simple question: Would the other parents of victims be forever thankful if a professor or student was allowed to carry a firearm and could have stopped Seung-Hui Cho before their loved one was injured or killed? I would be. I also suspect that the tragedy may not have occurred at all if Cho knew that either faculty members or students were permitted to carry their own weapons on campus. Cho took his own life before campus police were able to reach him and put a stop to his killing spree.

A sad testament to this anniversary date is the number of similar killings in schools and public places that have taken place afterwards as if nothing has changed to help prevent such needless and heartbreaking events. That is why I fully support the VCDL in their outstanding efforts to help prevent this type of tragedy and loss from occurring in the future.

Holly Adams

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/04/daniel-zimmerman/holly-adams-statement-on-the-virginia-tech-massacre-and-campus-carry/

Maybe that brady shill colin goddard isn't living or speaking for 32 after all.

[Hoyt]

1. "The truth about guns" is your typical gun group - good ole boys who still support G Zimmerman.

And, while I feel for this girl's family, the thought that arming professors/students with guns would have made a difference is ludicrous.

[Callisto32]

2. 0_()

[AH1Apache]

5. Why. Hoyt, is this ludicrous?

Your continued asperations of gun owners are really making you look like, well I won't say what I really think due to the rules here,
But I digress, Why is it such a stretch to you and your fellow gun control advocates that Cho could have been stopped that day if just one student or professor had been armed?
And I seriously doubt that you really feel for this girl's family.
I await with bated breath for your, hopefully, lucid answer.

[Hoyt]

8. Why try to post answers to someone who thinks this country is a war zone. You wouldn't get it.

[AH1Apache]

13. And just who Hoyt, thinks this country is a war zone?

I see the Hoyt shuffle and sidestep at work here again.
Oh I get it Hoyt, your hatred of lawful gun owners obviouly clouds your judgement.

[beevul]

25. Wait, isn't that an implication made by gun controllers when it suited their argument?

That this country is a war zone?

Lets see what google says...Oh, Look:

"it was like living in a war zone."

Anti-gun piece, posted by a resident anti-gunner.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x394003

Oh look, heres another one:

"Nobody likes living in a war zone. But I've got news for you: the drugs didn't create that war zone. THE GUNS DID."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=12880

posted by a resident anti-gunner.

And another:

"Gun worship is turning this country into a war zone."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=30121


Looks to me like it is.

[PavePusher]

28. Dodge.

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/artfuldodger.htm

[HALO141]

38. I've never seen you answer a direct question.

Give it a shot. (No pun intended.)

[beevul]

10. And what is your opinion of the brady shill...

And what is your opinion of the brady shill, colin goddard...that used this grieving womans dead child to push an agenda that SHE herself clearly disagrees with?

Not so much as a peep from you on that huh?


"the thought that arming professors/students with guns would have made a difference is ludicrous."

Thats your opinion.

It doesn't appear to be an educated opinion, but its an opinion nonetheless, and youre entitled to it.

Of course, It would be nice if it mirrored reality just...a tiny bit., that or admit that it was just an opinion with no basis in fact other than your own biased opinion.


Your crystal ball is no better than anyone elses, hoyt.

[S_B_Jackson]

17. And yet....at a similar incident

at Appalachian State, two students who did have firearms in their vehicles were able to retrieve firearms from their respective vehicles and to successfully stop a shooter.

Perhaps, Hoyt, not as ludicrous as you would have us believe.

{Edited for some attrocious spelling. }

[rl6214]

33. "1. "The truth about guns" is your typical gun group - good ole boys who still support G Zimmerman."

Please show us where they are supporting zimmerman...we'll wait.

"the thought that arming professors/students with guns would have made a difference is ludicrous."

your thought, is ludicrous.

[Hoyt]

40. Scroll through their editorials. Besides, it's a gun website.

[gejohnston]

41. I would say they "support" him as they

are critical of the MSM and the vigilantes the MSM has been inspiring.

[rl6214]

42. Ah yes, the value of the "SAVAGE EDITORIAL" as coined by another member here

The "savage editorial" really offsets the actual pro-RKBA laws that are being passed.

[HockeyMom]

3. What if the cafeteria ladies were armed at Columbine?

They could have grabbed their guns from under the Cheerios and shot those two? What if that minister had a gun under his pulpit? What if a day care teacher had a gun under the diapers? What if all citizens were armed, everywhere in society, then there would be no more violence!!!! What if?

[gejohnston]

4. I'll take

Cheyenne or Casper over Tampa. I'll take El Paso over Newark. Come to think of it, I'll take El Paso over Thunder Bay, Ontario.

[AH1Apache]

6. Exactly, what if

Meanwhile the campus police just stood around with their thumbs up their ass while Cho continued on his murdurous rampage, so it's not inconceivable that an armed student or professor could have stopped it sooner. Funny how Cho offed himself when confronted by armed persons, I.E., the real police.

[Hoyt]

7. Yea, a bunch of G Zimmermans running around pretending to be students' savior would have helped.

Well assuming they don't go around shooting unarmed students wearing hoodies.

[AH1Apache]

14. That doesn't even make any damned sense

Shooting unarmed students wearing hoodies?
Wow, just wow
Do you really believe the crap that you post?

[Hoyt]

16. Zimmerman was a law abiding gun culture member in good standing. On a campus,

there is every reason to believe his type would shoot unarmed students pulling pranks.

But, I forget -- you are one of those who think Zimmerman is not a bad person.

[AH1Apache]

19. Now I'm calling you a liar

Show me one post, just one post where I said that Zimmerman is not a bad person, please just one post, otherwise, retract your statement.
And show me the stats. where his type would shoot unarmed students pulling pranks.

[Hoyt]

21. You speculate that armed students/professors would stop massacres. I speculate it would make things

worse. You believe this country is a war zone, I don't.

[AH1Apache]

24. Your lying again Hoyt

Once again, show me one post, just one post where I said I thought this country is a war zone, please Hoyt, JUST ONE POST.
I don't speculate anything, I have facts on my side, you are the one that's speculating.

[PavePusher]

29. Dodge. n/t

[AH1Apache]

31. Typical Hoytism

when confronted with his own words or facts, he runs away or hurls more insults.
Tsk tsk

[AH1Apache]

26. Still waiting Hoyt

for you to show me one post where I said that Zimmerman is not a bad person, but I know you won't show any because I never said, but we've come to expect your falsehoods and dishonesty here.
I sure as hell don't expect you to retract your statement either.

[AH1Apache]

27. C'mon Hoyt

you made the claims, show us the proof.

[AH1Apache]

32. Still waiting Hoyt.

[rl6214]

36. Hoyt slithers away again

The dishonesty is mind boggling.

[Straw Man]

23. Hoyt slimes again.

Surprise, surprise.

Care to back up or retract any of that shit?

[rl6214]

35. Still going on about that made up "gun culture" of yours

Maybe some day you'll learn what the modern gun culture is all about...but knowing your track record, I doubt it.

[HockeyMom]

37. You can add me to that

As the wife of 39 years of a gun toting, NRA, Ten Nutgent supporting, husband. You people will never understand it. I include my husband in that mix too.

[rl6214]

39. Add you to what, not knowing what the modern gun culture is all about or making things up?

Must be some other reason you hate your husband so much Why are you still with him?

[GreenStormCloud]

9. There have been several mass shootings that were stopped by an armed citizen.

One of those was a school shooting in Pearl, Mississippi. A student started shooting. One of the administrators ran to his car a got his .45 and held the shooter at gunpoint until the police arrived.

Armed law-abiding citizens can save lives.

[Hoyt]

11. There have been more killed by previously "law-abiding" gun owners/nuts.

[AH1Apache]

18. Wow Hoyt

A new mantra, now it's previously "law-abiding" gun owners/nuts.
You never fail do you?

[Hoyt]

20. Stop trying to be dense. Folks like Zimmerman, Loughner, Cho are "law-abiding" right up until they

shoot innocent people.

[AH1Apache]

22. You just don't have a fucking clue do you.

This from the man who thinks that law abiding gun owners should be detained so police can check their papers.

[PavePusher]

30. Dodge. n/t

[ileus]

15. I recommended an AR for our sound guys at church once.

They have an elevated view of the main worship area. Right beside the main entrances. Could respond downstairs ahead of any panicky sheeple.

School would need a quick access safe and active shooter training.

[rl6214]

34. "What if all citizens were armed, everywhere in society,"

Only the anti-gun zealots go on about shit like that.

[ileus]

12. One would think he'd know guns kill people.

Must be paid by the NRA....

[beevul]

43. Kick. N/T