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ileus

(15,396 posts)
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 09:54 PM Apr 2012

WWII assault rifle used to stop home invasion.

http://www.independent.com/news/2012/apr/11/homeowner-shoots-pedregosa-street-prowler/?on

The 54-year-old owner, said Harwood, told the man to leave, but he continued trying to get in. The homeowner grabbed a WWII-era M1 carbine and fired a warning shot into the ground near the suspect. It had no effect. Approximately 10 seconds later he fired through the door at the suspect, striking him in the leg.


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You know those dangerous weapons of war....The M1 makes a great home defense firearm, and they're great fun at the range for the whole family. Of course you'd better be into rolling your own if you plan on shooting one very much.

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WWII assault rifle used to stop home invasion. (Original Post) ileus Apr 2012 OP
I still have an "M-1 thumb" I got over 50 years ago tularetom Apr 2012 #1
I've always wanted a real one but I should have pulled ileus Apr 2012 #2
"M1 thumb" is created by the M1 Garand, not the M1Carbine. oneshooter Apr 2012 #3
and real M1 Garands are even crazier priced. ileus Apr 2012 #4
Best price is from the CMP. oneshooter Apr 2012 #7
I'd say considerably more than "ouch". n/t PavePusher Apr 2012 #10
I did, but most of the words I used are not considered, by me, to be appropriate for posting. oneshooter Apr 2012 #11
I remember "M14 thumb" very well JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2012 #19
Nice to see my theory that the M-1 Carbine is good for home defense... krispos42 Apr 2012 #5
the only thing about the AR I like gejohnston Apr 2012 #8
I might see if I can get one through CMP. krispos42 Apr 2012 #9
Military experience satisfies the "shooting" requirement JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2012 #24
I respect the hell out of the AR design. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #23
An m1 carbine is not an assault rifle dizbukhapeter Apr 2012 #6
About to say this... Hayabusa Apr 2012 #12
Brens and BARs are light machine guns dizbukhapeter Apr 2012 #14
no, the BAR is an automatic rifle. provis99 Apr 2012 #15
Well yeah, gejohnston Apr 2012 #16
I guess a Bren might do for an assault rifle. needledriver Apr 2012 #17
Just my mental image of it, Hayabusa Apr 2012 #22
Two bad tactics used, but it seems to have turned out well enough in the end. PavePusher Apr 2012 #13
French doors--they are glass--so he could see the guy I wager. nt MADem Apr 2012 #18
Ah, I was tired and missed the connection about the doors. Thanks. n/t PavePusher Apr 2012 #20
So much for the warning shots meme. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #21

ileus

(15,396 posts)
2. I've always wanted a real one but I should have pulled
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:06 PM
Apr 2012

the trigger back in the 80's when they were still affordable....


oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
3. "M1 thumb" is created by the M1 Garand, not the M1Carbine.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:08 PM
Apr 2012

I know first hand. Got caught by the bolt twice.

Same thumb



Same day.

Can you say ouch?

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,344 posts)
19. I remember "M14 thumb" very well
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:43 AM
Apr 2012

Drill sergeant was very sympathetic, yelling that I should not bleed onto HIS weapon!

M1 Carbine might cause "M1 Pinkie" but shouldn't draw much blood. I don't know how powerful the M1 Carbine is, but seems no more powerful than a .38 special. In that case, it might be a pretty good home defence gun, less risk of over-penetration like a .30-'06 round.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
5. Nice to see my theory that the M-1 Carbine is good for home defense...
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:16 PM
Apr 2012

...stacking up.

More muzzle energy than a .44 Magnum. What else can you want?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
8. the only thing about the AR I like
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:23 PM
Apr 2012

is that it is easy to field strip. I have had some very good teachers in that regard. There is something about old school wood and steel that defines art and craftsmanship. Once the finances are in order, I might pick up one of the new ones Auto Ordnance makes.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
9. I might see if I can get one through CMP.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:29 PM
Apr 2012

My dad was in the Coast Guard, '68 to '72. That qualifies him, I think.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,344 posts)
24. Military experience satisfies the "shooting" requirement
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 05:44 PM
Apr 2012

But it's not necessary. Experience shooting in an accredited (NRA) match, or going through a concealed carry class also meets that requirement.

I got a nice little IBM carbine from CMP's store at Camp Perry. It's good for plinking at short range, but for the long shots (100-200 yds) the M1 Garand is better.

Callisto32

(2,997 posts)
23. I respect the hell out of the AR design.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:38 PM
Apr 2012

Stoner and his forebears really knew what they were on to.

That said I agree, at the end of the day there's just something about c.1900 style arms that makes them...artful.

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
12. About to say this...
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:41 PM
Apr 2012

I really wouldn't classify it as an assault rifle personally. When I saw the thread title, I came in here thinking that a burglar met the wrong end of a BAR or a Bren or something.

 

needledriver

(836 posts)
17. I guess a Bren might do for an assault rifle.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:02 AM
Apr 2012

I worked with a man who had been a Commando during WW2. He said that when his unit went on raids each man used a Bren gun.

The BAR (not the hunting rifle) was designed in WW1 to be used in assault fire. They actually intended for you to go over the top with one of these things, firing as you walked through No Man's Land toward the enemy. The magazine belt for it had a steel cup that you rested the butt of the BAR in so you were basically firing from the hip.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
13. Two bad tactics used, but it seems to have turned out well enough in the end.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:44 PM
Apr 2012

1. "Warning" shot. Argh

2. Shooting through a door. Article didn't seem to say, maybe it was glass and he could actually see the target? Otherwise... Argh.

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