Florida Turns ‘Gunshine State’ After Years of Republican Control
For years, Florida Capitol Police asked gun owners to check their firearms at the door. Not anymore.
Since a law in October made it easier to carry concealed weapons into the 1.2 million-square-foot government headquarters in Tallahassee, Senate security relies on alert buttons installed on the phones of lawmakers and staffers that let them instantly listen in to events.
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“The goal of the gun lobby is to make Florida their armed utopia and spread that mentality nationally,” said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
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“I like to think of Florida as first in freedom,” said Marion Hammer, executive director of Unified Sportsmen of Florida, a National Rifle Association affiliate.
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How you feelin' Floridians?
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A tote is something my wife keeps our holiday decorations in, so whenever I see the word in this context, it just conjures this image of people walking around with big plastic totes and a single, small pistol inside of them. 
This could be because I'm very tired right now, of course....
...deal in facts and not emotion.
You don't want to answer it because it exposes your specious logic and so now you're resorting to ad hominem. 
...that is a morality question - here we are talking about a radically expansive interpretation of self-defense. I'll just take that as a concession that you cannot in fact explain to me why 18 ought to be an arbitrary line for toting rights.
So what age do you think is tote appropriate?
As for what age, I don't have any problem at all with people of all ages having totes.
Or were you talking about something else? 
eqfan592: Arm 10-year-olds with semi-automatic handguns or they're not equal citizens.
Me: "I don't have any problem at all with people of all ages having totes. "
A tote:
What you said I said: "Arm 10-year-olds with semi-automatic handguns or they're not equal citizens."
Seems to be a pretty big disparity there, don't ya think? And what's amazing is that you would try to pull such a stunt in the very same thread.
You asked me about totes, and I gave you an answer. You then went on about arming 10 year olds with semi-auto handguns. Doesn't make much sense to me.
...on the basis that everyone has a right-to-self-defense everywhere at all times, then logically you cannot object to the arming of 10-year-olds. The reality is that, and the SCOTUS agrees, that laws upholding "safe areas" are constitutionally reasonable.
I'm not sure what would make sense with you, but then again you're not really here looking for sensibility.
Because what one says about the rights of adults does not automatically translate to what one says about the rights of children.
Nice try, tho.
...rather than actually take that action.
Or is this like that game where we all post things like "Witty commentary?"
...because it belies critical thinking ability.
Time for Kauai coffee...
Should we allow them to vote? Drink? Enter into binding contracts?
It's a stupid question. I'm sorry, but it is.
...you shouldn't have to check your gun at the State House doors.
Because all you've done so far is make a fool out of yourself. Repeatedly in fact.
And doing that sort of thing tends to be counter productive.
...but thank you for attempting the intimidation tactic, but just a hint, it doesn't work on an anonymous internet forum very well. 
wow, never would have thunk it. Fair enough then, what you decide to do with your own reputation is none of my business.
Your honor, I rest my case. 
...except for everyone "who haven't reached the age of majority," what does the "age of majority" even mean in this context of the right-to-self-defense everywhere all the time? I mean really, you're now going to apply an artificial limit to your argument that even you cannot justify on a reasonable basis? Why should a 17-year-old have less rights than a 19-year-old?
It is those that defend the absurd notion that anyone no matter their age should be able to take a firearm wherever they please.
The reality here is that you do not support the right of self-defense. You support arbitrary distinctions without cause but at the same time object to restrictions that might actually have some teeth. There's a word for that...I'm sure you can figure out the one I'm thinking of.
And you just made my point that PavePusher's argument is a bunch of baloney. Why don't you denounce his advocacy of guns in the State House then? Answer that question and I might reconsider by opinion of your line of reasoning
How could you possibly think guns are ok in the high-pressure atmosphere that is a building full of bureaucracy?
The biggest danger I can imagine is somebody gets so bored waiting in line for hours and hours that they take it out and start fiddling with it.
the laughs just keep on coming. 
...to put the "sarcasm" thing in YOUR post!
...that the Republican Party holds power over the NRA and not the other way around. I don't see what you're confused about.
The funny thing is that it works on a small number of people.
You might want to check your argument at Open Secrets (because it's rather inaccurate): http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000082
So there is this huge GOP conspiracy where they run a "supposedly" one-issue 2nd Amendment organization where in fact it is in all actuality a GOP front where they(GOP) directs this front to donate and offer support to an opposing party for plausible deniability.
In 2010 they supported House Democrats with $359,600 and House Republicans with $447,900. Why would they donate so much to Dems?
I must say that I have not heard that one before.
...so I imagine not only would they pray but they'd pop a few rounds off at the range.
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Of course the graph only goes to 2008, with a slight uptick from 06-08. But uniform crime statistics from the FDLE through 2010, the last year fully available, seem to indicate firearm-related crime trending back down again across the board.
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