NAACP: Stand Your Ground Law Not to Blame in Taryvon Martin Shooting

[gejohnston]

at least that is what the CEO told Amy Goodman.

http://content.bitsontherun.com/previews/zzrWTwGH-dh3Zgtip

What can I say, other than that I agree. Something tells me that was not the answer Amy was expecting.

[Lint Head]

1. I think that is the wrong way to frame it.

Stand your ground law not the 'cause' of the Trayvon Martin shooting. Zimmerman kill Trayvon. That's all that matters. If the law goes down the memory hole all the better.

[gejohnston]

2. you missed the point

If the media accounts are true, Zimmerman is not protected by the law. If this happened in Tampa or Gainsville, Zimmerman would be in jail right now. If Zimmerman landed up dead, Martin would be protected under the law. As he and the author of the SYG law said, Sanford PD is the problem.

[Lint Head]

3. No I didn't miss the point. I reinforced the point. Zimmerman should have been arrested even if the

law never existed. Murder is murder. Even a police officer has to turn over his gun and be suspended when he shots someone legally.
Zimmerman was just a creep with a gun. Apparently he is an abusive prick that is lucky enough to have a judge as a father.

[gejohnston]

5. I don't know about his dad

I think that he is lucky that he is in Sanford and not Gainsville.
If he is an abusive prick, his dad might have gotten him out of that, since he was not convicted of domestic violence. If he were convicted of domestic violence, the feds would be arresting him for having the gun.
That is why I always encourage DV victims to always press charges, help the DA get a conviction. Even if he does get a couple of months of county jail. If he gets caught with a gun, he gets five to ten years in federal prison.

[JDPriestly]

17. Absolutely!

[TPaine7]

4. gejohnston, check your mailbox n/t

[Hoyt]

7. I'm assuming NAACP is saying "racism" is main cause, it may be -- but SYG is still

misinterpreted by most yahoos who routinely carry guns in public. And, most yahoos who carry guns probably celebrated when SYG was enacted in their state.

Fact is, racism (Zimmerman's and/or police's, and maybe 200+ years of this crud); guns; SYG; lack of homeowner's association to control the fool, are all responsible for this.

[AH1Apache]

8. Hey Hoyt

here's a news flash for you, the only one responsible for this young mans death is Zimmermans, not the gun, not SYG, not racism, not the HOA, just Zimmerman.

[Hoyt]

9. I take it you like guns and SYG. I disagree with you. If Zimmerman had no gun, he would have

stayed in his car, because he's a coward who hides behind his guns, SYG, and likely racist police department.

Nice to have you at DU.

[AH1Apache]

10. You are correct

that if he had stayed in his car like the dispatcher had told him to, then this young man would still be alive but again the ONLY ONE RESPONSIBLE IS ZIMMERMAN, NOT ANYTHING ELSE. And yes I do admire weapons, I admire the craftsmanship that goes into them and how they operate and to cut you off, I am of sound mind and body and I will not take you oft expressed suggestion and leave them at home. You may choose to leave yours at home and I respect that, but don't tell me what to do please.

[Hoyt]

11. For a newbe with only 5 posts, you sure know a lot about me.

[AH1Apache]

12. I'm a newbie at posting

been lurking for quite a while now, so, yes, I do know alot about what you think of guns, although I'm fairly certain that you are a really cool person that I could have a drink with if I still drank, but that's another story.

[friendly_iconoclast]

13. NEWSFLASH: The DU search function is open to all...

...and your opinions about most gun owners are rather easily found.

[PavePusher]

16. Are you confused about how the internet works?

The fact that one can publicly view the content here before signing up for posting privileges is a feature, not a bug.

[Remmah2]

20. Ones IQ is not proportional to their post count. nt

nt

[Hoyt]

21. Or the number of guns they play with.

[AH1Apache]

22. Is that all you have Hoyt?

Insults and vile accusations towards other DU members?

[ileus]

24. Firearms aren't toys, you shoild take them more seriously.

[Hoyt]

25. Then why do so many play with them?

[AH1Apache]

26. I would like you to cite anyone here claiming to "play with them"

Just 1 quote. I'll wait.

[DonP]

27. Make up your mind

One day you tell us there are actually fewer and fewer actual gun owners. Just a few of us with a lot more guns.

Now you're saying "why do so many play with them".

Then we hear the all evil and all powerful NRA drove every state in the union but one to allow CCW, even the ones with Dems running the legislature.

Then we hear emphatically that the NRA really has no political power.

You and your fellow traveler gun control people really need to do a better job of coordinating your stories so at least you stop contradicting each other.

[ileus]

15. Spot on and correct...welcome to DU.

[ileus]

14. Good on the NAACP in understanding the difference between a shitty person and good law.

[virginia mountainman]

18. EXACTLY RIGHT!

Thanks for posting this!

[GreydeeThos]

19. The Stand Your Ground law will not be a factor in the outcome of this case

The focus should be on Zimmerman. If a side issue like an irrelevant law is allowed to dilute the argument, it presents an opportunity for a deflection of justice.

[AH1Apache]

23. Spot on