Ownership of Full Auto Weapons?

[Logical]

I though you could only sell full auto weapons manufactured before 1986. I thought basically all the automatic weapons sold now were older weapons. And you could not buy new automatic weapons.

I must be wrong or confused because I was at a shooting range this weekend, The Scottsdale Gun Club, and they were renting machine guns like the FN SCAR and FN P90 that I am sure were made after 1986.

So how does a shooting range acquire newer full automatic guns legally?

[TheWraith]

1. I believe FFL Class 3 dealers can buy any automatic weapon.

Including new ones, regardless of age. It's only average citizens prevented from owning them.

(Not to be confused with Class 03, which is a whole different thing.)

[Johnny Rico]

2. Those weapons must be "dealer samples".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_III_NFA_firearm#The_market_for_NFA_items

Machine guns manufactured after the FOPA's enactment can be sold only to law enforcement and government agencies, exported, or held as inventory or "dealer samples" by licensed manufacturers and dealers.

They can't sell them to you, but they can rent them. Silly law.

[Logical]

4. OK, that explain it! Thanks!! n-t

[slackmaster]

3. Dealers can buy post-'86 "sample" weapons

If you are in the business of selling to .gov agencies, you need demo weapons so your customers can make informed decisions.

[Logical]

5. OK, thanks!

[Hoyt]

6. So, how much do people pay to screw around with one of these lethal weapons?

Is renting one to those who like to play with such things, in the spirit of a "dealer sample?" Sounds like pushing the envelop to me.

[gejohnston]

7. you don't leave the range with it

but if you are interested, call a range and ask.

[Johnny Rico]

8. For an M249 SAW (and some shots from a couple other guns): $129.95

http://thegunstorelasvegas.com/gun-rentals

Fun, fun, fun!

Is renting one to those who like to play with such things, in the spirit of a "dealer sample?" Sounds like pushing the envelop to me.

Be sure to notify your nearest ATF agent that these people are pushing the envelope...and do get back to us and let us know how that works out...

[Dr_Scholl]

9. The 86 ban is bullshit.

It clearly failed a voice vote, but Rangel added it to FOPA any way.

[ileus]

10. I have a friend that has two...but he's also a Class III dealer.

Lot's of fun going over to his range. Except you have to provide your own ammo...

[OriginalGeek]

12. My wife's cousin is the son of a gunsmith

and he inherited a lot of pretty cool things - including a full auto uzi that he let us shoot over the Thanksgiving weekend. Man that was fun. He doesn't do guns for money though - just for fun - but he's kept up with all the proper licenses. I bet in about a half hour we burned through a lot of dollars worth of ammo...

I'll tell ya this though - if/when zombie apocalypse comes, I'm hightailing it to his house.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

11. As stated... an SOT (dealer) can purchase or mfg new weapons.

I do believe the weapons must be relinquished when an SOT/FFL status is revoked or expired unless the item was purchased for demonstration purposes on behalf of an LEO/MIL agency.