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GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 11:02 PM Mar 2012

Governor Martinez Signs Pro-Gun Bill in New Mexico



http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/news-from-nra-ila/2012/governor-martinez-signs-pro-gun-bill-in-new-mexico.aspx

Fairfax, Va. – Governor Susana Martinez has signed Senate Bill 26 into law. This legislation allows residents of New Mexico to purchase rifles and shotguns in non-contiguous states and residents of non-contiguous states to purchase these firearms in New Mexico.

"Senate Bill 26 puts New Mexico in line with federal law. Law-abiding New Mexico residents should not be restricted from purchasing long guns from non-contiguous states because of a lack of clarity in state law," said Chris W. Cox, executive director for NRA's Institute for Legislative Action. "The NRA would like to thank Governor Susana Martinez for signing Senate Bill 26 and for messaging this bill so it could be considered during the 30-day session. We are also grateful to Senator Bill Payne and Representative Bill Rehm for their leadership in spearheading this effort."

Previous state law permitted the purchase of long guns in neighboring states, but did not address non-contiguous states. Because of this, some out-of-state firearms dealers interpreted the law as being restrictive and would not sell rifles and shotguns to New Mexicans even though such transactions would otherwise be permissible under federal law.

Senate Bill 26 passed in the New Mexico House by a 61 to 6 vote and in the Senate by a 37 to 0 vote. The Act will take effect on July 1.
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Governor Martinez Signs Pro-Gun Bill in New Mexico (Original Post) GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 OP
and another post about the exploits of a Republican politician iverglas Mar 2012 #1
I imagine it was something like... ellisonz Mar 2012 #5
All about the governor, eh? rl6214 Mar 2012 #16
OOPS. I did leave out my comment. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #17
sez it all, don't it? iverglas Mar 2012 #21
A post is not a vote. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #22
snork iverglas Mar 2012 #23
Whoopie -- makes it easier to arm a paramilitary group. Where's sarcasm thingy? Hoyt Mar 2012 #2
You do realize that all inter-state sales have to go through a federal dealer, right? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #14
How did she ever get elected in New Mexico, especially with all the latino democrats in the state. demosincebirth Mar 2012 #3
?????? gejohnston Mar 2012 #4
What are you trying to say about Arizona? ellisonz Mar 2012 #6
for the most part gejohnston Mar 2012 #9
that's really very funny iverglas Mar 2012 #7
gun militant gejohnston Mar 2012 #8
"That means any claim MAIG makes is bullshit or illegally obtained." iverglas Mar 2012 #10
So? gejohnston Mar 2012 #11
in a nut shell gejohnston Mar 2012 #18
MAIG as a "source"? rl6214 Mar 2012 #19
nope iverglas Mar 2012 #20
re-read my edited post demosincebirth Mar 2012 #13
congrats to our NM friends. ileus Mar 2012 #12
Hmmmm, more backlash, eh? rl6214 Mar 2012 #15

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
5. I imagine it was something like...
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:19 AM
Mar 2012

..."I like it when the Republicans do things to advance my narrow agenda."

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
16. All about the governor, eh?
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:41 PM
Mar 2012

"Senate Bill 26 passed in the New Mexico House by a 61 to 6 vote and in the Senate by a 37 to 0 vote. The Act will take effect on July 1. "

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
17. OOPS. I did leave out my comment.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:48 PM
Mar 2012

Here you are:

Another pro-gun legislative victory in 2012.

I am keeping a file of them and will post a complete list at the end of the year. Whether the governor who signs it is a D or R is irrelevant to me.

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
21. sez it all, don't it?
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 03:30 PM
Mar 2012
Whether the governor who signs it is a D or R is irrelevant to me.


Reflects your voting criteria too, does it?

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
22. A post is not a vote.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 04:03 PM
Mar 2012

I can celebrate a pro-gun victory here and still use multiple issues to decide my vote.

I can even walk and chew gum and shoot at the same time.

 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
14. You do realize that all inter-state sales have to go through a federal dealer, right?
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:37 PM
Mar 2012

Every firearm bought from out of state must be delivered to a federally-licensed dealer and a background check passed before the firearm can be transferred to the new owner.

Did you know that?

Is that not sufficient for you?

demosincebirth

(12,541 posts)
3. How did she ever get elected in New Mexico, especially with all the latino democrats in the state.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:43 AM
Mar 2012

Last edited Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Must be because she's Mexican American. Ah, turncoats.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
4. ??????
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:57 AM
Mar 2012

New Mexico is nothing like Arizona. Looking at the age of the cities, it seems like the Spanish did not settle Arizona like they did in California or New Mexico.
I was stationed in New Mexico, it is a very interesting spiritual place. Unlike Arizona and Florida, they managed to protect their state from transplant north-easterners that hate snow as much as they do brown people. If I can put Florida in the rear view mirror, it would be to either Wyoming (home) or New Mexico.

The original state constitution of 1912 provided for a bilingual government with laws being published in both English and Spanish;[46] this requirement was renewed twice, in 1931 and 1943.[47] Nonetheless, the constitution does not declare any language as "official."[48] While Spanish was permitted in the legislature until 1935, all state officials are required to have a good knowledge of English. Cobarrubias and Fishman therefore argue that New Mexico cannot be considered a bilingual state as not all laws are published in both languages.[47] Others, such as Juan Perea, claim that the state was officially bilingual until 1953.[49] In either case, Hawaii is the only state that remains officially bilingual in the 21st century.[50]
With regards to the judiciary, witnesses have the right to testify in either of the two languages, and monolingual speakers of Spanish have the same right to be considered for jury-duty as do speakers of English.[48][51] In public education, the state has the constitutional obligation to provide for bilingual education and Spanish-speaking instructors in school districts where the majority of students are hispanophone.[48]
In 1995, the state adopted a State Bilingual Song, New Mexico - Mi Lindo Nuevo México. In 1989, New Mexico became the first state to officially adopt the English Plus resolution,[50] and in 2008, the first to officially adopt a Navajo textbook for use in public schools.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico#Official_language

If you are assuming that New Mexico is a racist shit hole that the likes of Jan Brewer and "Gestapo Joe" turned Arizona into, you owe the state a serious apology.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
6. What are you trying to say about Arizona?
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:39 AM
Mar 2012
Unlike Arizona and Florida, they managed to protect their state from transplant north-easterners that hate snow as much as they do brown people.


Really?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
9. for the most part
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 09:04 AM
Mar 2012

although the ones in Florida buy a house on the river and bitch about the alligators and rednecks more than brown people.
Mostly, I'm knocking Sun City more than the entire state.

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
7. that's really very funny
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 08:31 AM
Mar 2012

Well done!

Indeed. How did a supporter of the ugly gun militant (and hey, quelle surprise, anti-choice) agenda manage to get elected in pleasant, peaceable new Mexico ...


This legislation allows residents of New Mexico to purchase rifles and shotguns in non-contiguous states and residents of non-contiguous states to purchase these firearms in New Mexico.


But what the hell. NM was already a net exporter of firearms (50% above the national average) with pretty much zero protections against outbound trafficking anyhow, so what's one more little boon to traffickers?

http://www.tracetheguns.org/#/states/NM/exports/

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
8. gun militant
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 09:01 AM
Mar 2012

Large scale trafficking is rare in the US. It does not do anything for trafficking. The Gun Control Act of 1968 gives states the option to do that for long guns, but not handguns. Even then, IIRC, it must be from FFL. IIRC, an interstate private sale would still be federal felony.

Oh that's right, anything short of what you want is a gun militant.
Where does MAIG get their numbers? Not from ATF. Trace data is supplied to law enforcement strictly law enforcement purposes.
That means any claim MAIG makes is bullshit or illegally obtained.

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
10. "That means any claim MAIG makes is bullshit or illegally obtained."
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 09:13 AM
Mar 2012

Of course it is.



http://www.tracetheguns.org/#/states/NM/exports/

Ten Key State Laws That Curb Illegal Gun Trafficking

New Mexico has 0 of 10 laws:

Allows Criminal Penalties for Buying a Gun for Someone who Can't
Allows Criminal Penalties for Buying a Gun with False Information
Allows Criminal Penalties for Selling a Gun without a Proper Background Check
Requires Background Checks for all Handgun Sales at Gun Shows
Requires Purchase Permit for All Handgun Sales
Grants Law Enforcement Discretion in Issuing Concealed Carry Permits
Prohibits Violent Misdemeanor Criminals from Possessing Guns
Requires Reporting Lost or Stolen Guns to Law Enforcement
Allows Local Communities to Enact Gun Laws
Allows Inspections of Gun Dealers


New Mexico's crime gun export rate

21.7 guns exported per 100,000 inhabitants
14.1 national average of guns exported per 100,000 inhabitants

New Mexico had the 17th Highest Rate of Crime Gun Exports in 2009


105 crime guns in California traced to New Mexico. Hell, New Mexico's guns made it to crimes every US state except Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Hawaii (at least there were no identified NM crime guns there).

Not bad, for such a peaceable, pleasant little state!

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
11. So?
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 09:37 AM
Mar 2012
Allows Criminal Penalties for Buying a Gun for Someone who Can't
Allows Criminal Penalties for Buying a Gun with False Information
Allows Criminal Penalties for Selling a Gun without a Proper Background Check

Federal crimes since 1960s

Prohibits Violent Misdemeanor Criminals from Possessing Guns

federal crime since 1990s

Allows Inspections of Gun Dealers

federal law, along with record keeping, since 1939.
Most gun show dealers are FFLs, if they are not individual one time sales and are in business for profit without FFL, are in violation of federal law.

Unless there is a logical reason for redundant state laws, the real score is five. That is the level of MAIG's dishonesty. It works for naive people who don't know shit about US federal gun laws, not with me. Most US people don't know jack about their federal gun laws, so I don't expect Canadians to.

Tiahrt is the author of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) from releasing information from its firearms trace database to anyone other than a law enforcement agency or prosecutor in connection with a criminal investigation. Additionally, any data so released is inadmissible in a civil lawsuit.[4] Some groups, including the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition, believe that having further access to the ATF database would help municipal police departments track down sellers of illegal guns and curb crime. These groups are trying to undo the Tiahrt Amendment.[5] Conversely, the Tiahrt Amendment is supported by the Fraternal Order of Police, as it allows municipal police departments full access to ATF trace data in any criminal investigation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Tiahrt#Tiahrt_Amendment

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
18. in a nut shell
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:48 PM
Mar 2012

Allows Criminal Penalties for Buying a Gun for Someone who Can't - federal felony

Allows Criminal Penalties for Buying a Gun with False Information - federal felony

Allows Criminal Penalties for Selling a Gun without a Proper Background Check - if FFL, federal felony

Requires Background Checks for all Handgun Sales at Gun Shows - see other post

Requires Purchase Permit for All Handgun Sales - still has NICS, so what's the point?

Grants Law Enforcement Discretion in Issuing Concealed Carry Permits - doesn't have shit to do with trafficking, but giving law enforcement discretion or arbitrary power over any civil liberty, right, or whatever you want to call it has no place in a democratic society. The choices should be either "shall issue" or not at all.

Prohibits Violent Misdemeanor Criminals from Possessing Guns - federal felony

Requires Reporting Lost or Stolen Guns to Law Enforcement - I doubt anyone would not, and how would you enforce?

Allows Local Communities to Enact Gun Laws - doesn't have shit to do with trafficking either

Allows Inspections of Gun Dealers - federal law, by the IRS from 1939-1972 and ATF since.

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