Sacramento At Center Of Untraceable ‘Ghost Gun’ Surge

[SecularMotion]

SACRAMENTO (CBS13) — An untraceable weapon linked to a high-profile crime in Stockton is surging in popularity in Sacramento.

The capital city has become a hotbed for ghost guns, and feds say they can be traced to a Sacramento man known as Dr. Death. He’s awaiting sentencing for helping create the illegal weapons.

Daniel Crowningshield is seen in his shop coaching a customer through the steps to make an untraceable rifle. His shop was so busy, an undercover agent said customers were lined up at the door.

The law allows the hobbyist to make and own unregistered firearms, but not to sell the guns. He was advertising his shop as a place where people could make a gun in 20 minutes by pressing a few buttons with plenty of help from Dr. Death.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2016/05/16/sacramento-at-center-of-untraceable-ghost-gun-surge/

[ileus]

1. Ohhh.....ghost guns with that thing that goes up.

[Puha Ekapi]

2. 30 bullets...

...a second in a 30 magazine clip.

I have built 5 of them to date and have 3 more lowers to finish out.




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[beergood]

22. de Leon

is still better than yee. he did everything he could to prevent law abiding citizens from owning firearms, while at the same time selling actual assault rifles, and explosives to known criminals.

"And he acknowledged offering to facilitate a multimillion-dollar arms deal for shoulder-fired missiles and automatic weapons with a source tied to Muslim rebel groups in the Philippines – a particularly bizarre and damaging allegation for the staunch gun-control advocate."

"Experts said Yee likely accepted the plea because of the weight of evidence against him, but were unsure whether it indicated that he had agreed to cooperate with the prosecution going forward. The U.S. attorney’s office in San Francisco declined to comment."


Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article25986487.html#storylink=cpy

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

3. An untraceable weapon linked to a high-profile crime in Stockton.......

The capital city has become a hotbed for ghost guns, and feds say they can be traced to a Sacramento man known as Dr. Death.

If they are traceable to Dr. Death, how are they untraceable?

Someone want to help me out here?

What do they mean by ghost gun?

Does it turn people into ghosts?

Any gun can do that, I suppose.

[DonP]

4. They're trying to gin up another moral panic about 80% receivers

"Ghost Guns" is another one of those made up terms, like "Assault Weapon".

Federal law allows you to make your own gun for private use (never for sale) using a self manufactured receiver or, in most cases, an AR or 1911 using a forged or cast aluminum receiver blank with 80% of the machining done. The rest can be done with a decent bench mounted drill press, some good quality carbide bits, hand tools and a modicum of mechanical skills.

It's a "Ghost Gun" because it doesn't have any serial number and isn't on file with any Federal or State agency.

The idea that somebody might be doing something they disapprove of and they can't figure out a way to tax or control it, is making them nuts and the fact that it's a Federal law really frustrates them.

[SecularMotion]

5. What is a "ghost gun?"

A ghost gun has no serial number and cannot be traced to an owner if it's found by law enforcement.

Answer: A ghost gun, as the name implies, is a slippery item -- hard to pin down and track. Here's how a ghost gun is made.

The gun's maker begins with a "receiver," the part of a gun that projects the bullet and houses the mechanical components of the firearm itself. A finished receiver is considered a working gun and is subject to regulation and control, while an unfinished receiver is not. An individual can convert an unfinished receiver into a working gun, without having to register the gun and provide a serial number. Without registration, the gun can't be traced; hence the industry term for a firearm created from an unfinished receiver: “ghost gun.” It is possible to create “ghost” handguns all the way up to “ghost” semi-automatic weapons.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/what-a-ghost-gun.htm

I don't see details on how the ghost guns were connected to "Dr. Death". It could be the combination of parts used for assembly or just an informant.

[gejohnston]

15. what about "ghost" automatic weapons?

Since these were found in Perth, maybe Western Australia should ban them. Of course, gang bangers will just go to Queensland or NSW to make or buy them.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/04/australian-motorcycle-gang-diy-firearms-surface/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/10/australian-police-seize-homemade-submachine-gun-drug-raid/

[Puha Ekapi]

19. Best reason to build one?

Because people like you don't like it. It drives you apeshit that I can do this all by myself in my garage. I like giving the middle finger to grabbers.

[beergood]

21. same here

just bought an "assault weapon"

i have no interest in semi-autos. i prefer revolvers, bolt action and lever action firearms, but knowing it pisses off the antis. make it all the more satisfying.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

6. "the part of a gun that projects the bullet "

No, that's not the receiver. That's the chamber and barrel.

I have heard of AR lowers that have been 3D printed, I don't know how long they last, being made of plastic.

I have also heard of machine shops with do-it-yourself steps to create lowers. Maybe that's it.

[DonP]

7. Here you go, from Brownell's

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/lower-receivers/308-80-lower-receiver-prod78349.aspx

They have a variety of "flavors/manufacturers". Most actually cost more than a finished lower.

Still waiting for the flood of murders with "Ghost Guns". But I'm guessing the average street gangs don't have much in the way of basic machinist skills.

Kind of like we're all still waiting for the crimes from the "50 Caliber Terror" they hyped a few years back. Claiming you could shoot down airplanes and even satellites with a 50 cal bolt action. (Gun grabbers can be pretty funny)

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

8. Oh, OK, a stripped lower.

Or an 80% lower.

The ghost part threw me off.

Yeah, I could see a bunch of knucleheads (urban or rural) who cannot even paint a wall in their own house (or sometimes even scoop the dogshit out of their own shacks) finishing one of these.

Yeah, right.

[DonP]

10. Stripped and unfinished

Magazine well is done rouglhy, but the action area is still solid metal and all the holes for the cross pins need to be drilled.

Some thread cutting is needed for the buffer and grip too.

I picked one up at a gun show a few years ago, just for curiosity and the novelty of it. Think I paid like $40 for it.

[Puha Ekapi]

11. I use a good...

Cerro Forge 7075 forged 80% lower to build my rifles. Magazine well is completely finished, all that needs to be done is drill for the selector and trigger, and mill out the pocket for the fire control group. Buffer tube threading is complete and ready to go. I use an 80% Arms Easy Jig. That requires a drill and a palm router to complete. Takes me about 60-90 minutes depending on how many times I refill my coffee cup It makes an absolutely perfect and functional lower that is equal to any complete lower on the market.

You CAN sell them if they are serialized, which a couple of mine are. If you engrave the numbers yourself they must comply with ATF standards. What you cannot do is build them for the express purpose of selling them, but you can sell them as a private sale of personal property.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

16. "What do they mean by ghost gun?"

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

9. I have:

- Installed a new ejector rod on a revolver because the old one was too short.

- Removed the crane and polished the part that goes into the frame on a revolver to make it smoother.

- Put a new barrel onto a reproduction Pennsylvania Long Rifle (flintlock)

- Mounted an ACOG on my friend's Colt AR (that's some amazing f**king scope let me tell you)

And I went to Brooklyn Technical High School which teaches similar skills.

No way I would finish out a lower.

That takes some skill. No one with that kind of patience is in a hurry to do anything.

[Puha Ekapi]

12. "No way I would finish out a lower. "

"That takes some skill. No one with that kind of patience is in a hurry to do anything."

It's actually astonishingly easy to do. It requires no specific machinist skills. First time doing one might take you 2-3 hours but even first time through you can get a PERFECT lower.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

13. Hmmm....

My model railroad is finished, I'll need something for the winter...

[JonathanRackham]

14. Back in the 60's and 70's street punks made zip guns.

This was crap that could be crudely made with a file and a vise.

In WWII the Russian Communist government distributed handbooks to the partisans and guerillas in Eastern Russia teaching them how to improvise munitions and arms to use on the German's behind enemy lines.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

17. Just out of curiosity

What is California's rating with the NRA?

[Puha Ekapi]

18. Probably an F-

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

20. They score very well with the Brady bunch.

http://gunlawscorecard.org/

http://www.bradycampaign.org/2013-state-scorecard

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

24. I'm not sure about the NRA's rating but...

...their police must be extraordinary because they can trace "untraceable" guns.

[virginia mountainman]

23. ROFLAMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ghost Guns!!