Gun Supporting VA GOP Gov Fails to Condemn Gun Riders but "Supports Budget Autonomy"

[fightthegoodfightnow]

More double talk this time from the political right regarding guns and budget autonomy in DC. What the heck is autonomy if every Tom, Dick and Harry (and a few on this board) have more rights to make gun laws than those being governed as is the case in DC.

From Today's Washington Post Editorial Page

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mr-mcdonnells-neighborly-aid-for-the-district/2012/02/29/gIQA32cZlR_story.html

How can there ever be a Second Amendment if you have no right to participate in a Government to change or affirm that Amendment, any Amendment, or any law? That's not freedom; that's tyranny.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

1. Just What I Thought

Cowards.

LOL.

[gejohnston]

2. has little to with us

but mostly about DC home rule.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

5. Gun Riders Have Nothing to do with 'Us'?

Who is us?

Should all constitutional gun laws be written on the local level rather that by members of Congress?

[fightthegoodfightnow]

13. Do you think Congress

.....should make any law regarding guns as strict Constitutionalist argue against even if some of those same people argue it's ok if it's DC?

[PavePusher]

3. Interesting.

At Sat Mar 3, 2012, 08:32 AM you sent an alert on the following post:

Just What I Thought

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

YOUR COMMENTS:

Name/calling/accusation of cowardice

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat Mar 3, 2012, 08:40 AM, and voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: Post serves no purpose other than an attack on the people on the forum for not responding to it as the OP wished them to.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given

Thank you.

It seems some things are more O.K. in the Gungeon than elsewhere on D.U. Civil discourse, my fucking ass.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

4. Thank You for Sharing

There is nothing civil about using profanity directed at this forum or a poster you disagree with.

What's disruptive is when someone wants to talk about something other than the topic of the board. Unlike some, I don't need to report 'an alert' to confirm whether I'm right or wrong.

When you are ready to talk about the original post, let me know. Do you agree with the Governor's position on gun riders in DC? Do you agree with the GOP position? Is a there a difference between GOP and the Democrats position or even your position?

[rl6214]

6. "What's disruptive is when someone wants to talk about something other than the topic of the board.

You mean like whining about not having voting rights in the District of Columbia in nearly every thread in the Gun Group?

[fightthegoodfightnow]

7. Then Don't Participate

I'm talking about a Congressional gun rider that impacts my community.

[rl6214]

8. don't be hypocritical

[fightthegoodfightnow]

20. About Guns?

Do tell.








.

[rl6214]

22. About:

"What's disruptive is when someone wants to talk about something other than the topic of the board. "

you want to talk about staying on topic (guns) but in every other thread you are going on about not guns but why you don't get a vote for president or house rep or senator. Thats hypocritical.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

25. Tell me the post on THIS thread you are referring to.

You won't find it.

[rl6214]

27. I said on many of the others.

Reading comprehension...

[fightthegoodfightnow]

28. So Nothing Relevant to This Board

......making your post irrelevant.

You should take your own advise and READ what this board is about........GUNS.

[rl6214]

29. Blah, blah, blah

It's ok for you to spout off CONSTANTLY about anything but guns in this group but someone points out your hypocrisy and THEN all you want to talk about is guns.

What a joke.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

30. I talk about guns in the context of my life.

You seem to want to make your comments about me personally rather than about guns in the context of your life. Let's try to elevate the conversation. I'm not prefect which is more than you have conceded.

PS- you might be surprised to learn I agreed with the pro-gun ruling in Maryland yesterday.

PSS- Have you ever agreed with any gun law that puts restrictions on you! for the better good?

[rl6214]

31. "PSS- Have you ever agreed with any gun law that puts restrictions on you! for the better good?"

I am all for background checks when purchasing a gun. A law that was pushed through by pro gun advocates.

[Clames]

9. Just...

...



Those riders would have had none of the ill-effects the pearl clutchers said they would when they shelved the legislation before. Despite all their noise those laws are weakening anyway. Seems 80% of the population there supported the measure as written too.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

15. What Ill Effects

....are you talking about???

[fightthegoodfightnow]

12. Topic

No.....I have absolutely not 'whined' as you suggest about voting rights on this board.

What I have tried to do is point out the hypocrisy of a gun supporting GOP governor who supports local autonomy but fails to condemn congressional GOP gun riders for DC.

I'll stay on topic and try not to make this personal if you do the same.

[gejohnston]

21. to paraphrase Forest Gump

hypocrisy and politics/ideology go together like peas and carrots.

[krispos42]

10. Locking

The linked article does not address the SoP of this group, and the OP is a statement of general dissatisfaction with how the district government is run.

Regards,
Krispos42, Gungeon Host

[krispos42]

11. Upon further consideration, I've decided to unlock this thread.

While the link only tangentially mentions DC's gun laws, fightthegoodfightnow was clearly attempting to focus on the unique case of the District and how it is managed by both the Congress and local residents regarding those gun-control laws.

In this regard, it is within bounds of the SoP.

Regards,
Krispos42, Gungeon Host

[fightthegoodfightnow]

14. Thank you.

.

[pipoman]

16. ...

[fightthegoodfightnow]

17. Ok......

......well you go ahead and express you 'feelings' and profanity in an attempt to disrupt the board by posting something that has nothing to do with guns.

Let me know when you want to talk about the moral relativity of strict GOP Constitutionalists (like Virginia's Governor) who argue for local autonomy and against Congress making any gun law even as his GOP Congressional delegation attaches riders to DC legislation and use the central federal authority to ram gun policies down the throats of DC citizens.

Or you could post your pictures.





.

[pipoman]

18. Same redundant rant, for years, different post...n/t

[fightthegoodfightnow]

19. So You Agree or Disagree

......about Congress making 'no law' regarding guns?

[aikoaiko]

23. Everyone who chose to live in DC did so knowing the rules.

Its a bit screwy, but that's what it is.

Its not tyranny.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

24. This Board Not About DC

This Board Not About DC. It's about guns in DC.

As a non resident if you have something to say about guns in DC post it here or tell your Member of Congress. Everyone else does.






.

[aikoaiko]

26. OK