Curious about the shooter at the Planned Parenthood

[question everything]

It has been reported that he lived "off the grid." In a shack. No doubt without a mailing address. How, then, did he manage to get a gun, when you have to provide personal details and register?

Just curious.

[iscooterliberally]

1. All you need is cash if you buy from a private seller. n/t

[question everything]

2. Oh. A loophole that should be closed. Really (nt)

[gejohnston]

3. not legally in Colorado

since they passed UBC before he moved there, although it isn't enforceable and was opposed by many in law enforcement for that reason. We have no idea when he got it or how old it is. For all we know, he might have ripped it off from a pick up truck gun rack. We don't know how he could have afforded it or how he supported himself. In fact, we really don't know much about anything.

[iscooterliberally]

5. I don't think it's a loophole per say, but I agree with your premise.

I think we would be better off if the second amendment were about the right to keep and bear cannabis instead of guns. I was born in a house full of guns. I had plenty of awful experiences with guns as a child, but luckily no one was hurt or killed. As a young man I worked on an ambulance. I was on duty watching TV between calls the day this happened:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro_McDonald%27s_massacre

As I watched in horror, my partner and I got a call to go to a Burger King in Fort Lauderdale where we found a very large man had taken a .38 slug to the chest. The poor guy must have weighed well over 300 lbs and it took all we had just to lift him into the back of the ambulance. I don't know if the poor man survived. It was a busy night and as soon as we got him to the hospital we were back on the street. I only did that job for a few months before I had enough and moved on. As a nation we are awash in guns. The NRA and the 2nd amendment are really about the right for gun manufacturers to have unfettered gun sales with absolutely no responsibility after the sale.

[Eleanors38]

9. Drop in now and again and you will find UBCs are favored here...

No loophole (although it sounds dramatic, as if the country was made of Swiss cheese). You, I, anyone NOT an FF Licensees cannot use the NICS system, even if we wanted to.

[ManiacJoe]

8. Only if you don't care about the legality of the sale.

iscooterliberally:
All you need is cash if you buy from a private seller.

The requirements of a legal sale are the same for the dealers and private sellers. It just happens that the dealers have access to the NICS checks.

Unfortunately, most illegal sales are not prosecuted.

[petronius]

4. More generally, should a civil liberty be predicated on having a fixed (mailing) address?

I'm pretty sure that when it comes to voting for example, homeless persons can list shelters or a range of non-traditional addresses (like Dear's off-the-grid shack). I'd argue that something similar should apply to 2A rights, although it could get complicated in terms of public carry, and/or storage laws, for people who don't have access to a 'shack,' vehicle, storage locker, or the like...

[mwrguy]

6. He may have owned that gun for decades

nobody knows at this point

[ileus]

7. He could have bought it years earlier? do you have to register in Co???

He could have bought it at any private sale.