Rick Perry: Allowing Guns In Movie Theaters Would Prevent Shootings

[Eugene]

Source: Huffington Post

Rick Perry: Allowing Guns In Movie Theaters Would Prevent Shootings

"These concepts of gun-free zones are a bad idea."

Marina Fang
Associate Politics Editor, The Huffington Post

Posted: 07/26/2015 | Edited: 1 hour ago

Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) claimed that if people could bring their guns to the movies, they could have prevented the movie theater shooting in Lafayette, Louisiana, Thursday evening.

"These concepts of gun-free zones are a bad idea. I think that you allow the citizens of this country -- who have been appropriately trained, appropriately backgrounded, know how to handle and use firearms -- to carry them," he told CNN’s Jake Tapper Sunday. “I believe that, with all my heart, that if you have the citizens who are well trained, and particularly in these places that are considered to be gun-free zones, that we can stop that type of activity, or stop it before there's as many people that are impacted as what we saw in Lafayette."

Such a provision “makes a lot of sense” under the Second Amendment, the 2016 presidential hopeful said.

When Tapper asked if that solution would be more effective than strengthening gun control laws, Perry pushed argued that the problem in Lafayette and the recent shooting in Charleston, South Carolina, is a lack of enforcement.

“We need to enforce the laws that are on the books,” he said. “Somebody didn't do their job in the standpoint of enforcing the laws that are on the books."

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[bvf]

1. No doubt Perry will extend the policy

to the White House, if he's elected, which he won't ever be.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

7. There are tons of guns all over the White House.

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[bvf]

11. The same is true of every municipal police station

in this country.

What's your point?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

2. Rick who? Why would I care??? n/t

[ileus]

3. Like we need some stupid goob to tell us the obvious.

I must confess that when going to the movies these days my normal carry (LCP or Shield) has been replaced with a P220 with night sights.

While I do give up rounds to my CZ p-09 (my only other pistol with night sights) the P220s slim profile wins out over the 19+1 of 9mm.

[Starboard Tack]

9. Hilarious! And what kind of body armor do you wear?

Most of us go to watch an actual movie, but you give us all a good reason to stay home and watch a DVD.

[ileus]

16. I don't have any body armor yet...

[Starboard Tack]

18. What are you waiting for?

How can you watch a movie in peace without body armor?

[AtheistCrusader]

24. I love my slant pro 8 heine night sights.

They said the tritium would only last 10 years, but it's at least 18 years old, still going strong.

[sarisataka]

4. Apparently Trump

said something too- but I don't pay much attention to morons I wouldn't vote for if they were the only name on the ballot.

[underpants]

5. Yes,not that there's a problem with guns but the solution is more guns

Makes perfect sense

[Nuclear Unicorn]

8. Rampage killers seek out notoriety. To get that they want the highest possible body counts. To

get that they seek out places with lots of people and nothing to interrupt them.

[spin]

21. They seek out places with lots of people THAT ARE GUN FREE ZONES! ...

They may be insane but they are not stupid.

[beevul]

6. Well, the way 'gun free' has worked out speaks for itself...

Well, the way 'gun free' has worked out speaks for itself, does it not?

[Starboard Tack]

10. Indeed it has. It is called the UK

https://www.google.it/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRxqFQoTCMeXjpmb-8YCFUiVcgodJb0DeQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebstagra.ms%2Ftag%2FLiberal&ei=pha2VcesNMiqygOl-o7IBw&bvm=bv.98717601,d.bGg&psig=AFQjCNHhk8noHpTw01TFgN_63Cm8J9UH1g&ust=1438083098152462

[beevul]

12. I was referring to in THIS country.

But then, you knew that, didn't you.

[Starboard Tack]

13. Of course I knew that

but it doesn't change the reality. Cherry picking areas to be "gun-free" is ridiculous, unless there are strict controls to prevent firearms from entering. The sad truth is that this is a problem that can never be solved by half measures. Either one accepts the mortality rate, the enormous social and financial burden on society, the knowledge that more and more people are walking out of their homes with loaded firearms and the political uproar and divisiveness that grows daily, all in the name of protecting a so-called "right"; or one arrives at the realization that this so-called "freedom" is nothing of the sort and hanging on to such a notion contributes greatly to the politics of fear in a failing society.

Other than that, I wish you well. I seriously doubt that pouring more guns into the public arena is going to make America safer, but if that can be demonstrated and proven, then I will eat my words.

[beevul]

17. Right. You were just referring to a "reality" which is not possible...

Right. You were just referring to a "reality" which is not possible in this country in the forseeable future, in spite of your statement being a red herring unrelated to the point I made because...why again? Oh, its obvious why:

"Hey, look over there".

I seriously doubt that pouring more guns into the public arena is going to make America safer

That's an interesting, and very telling statement, about your view of the individual choices that individuals make, on top of being baseless hyperbole. If I stand in the public arena with a net, do you think I'll be able to catch any as they fall from that great pitcher-full in the sky?

[Starboard Tack]

19. Not possible in "this country"?

Sounds like you have accepted the fact that you are living in a failed state and can do nothing about it.
I am looking over there. Over there at you. Where I live people do not carry guns to the movie theater or to church or to school and the result is that nobody gets shot in any of those places. The individual has the choice to support lunacy or to support common sense.
Obviously, it is a good choice to carry a gun in a war zone or to a gun fight or "shooting event" as you call it. Even better is to not have to even think about such absurd choices in a civilized society.

[beevul]

20. You don't know that.

Where I live people do not carry guns to the movie theater or to church or to school...

You don't know that. At best, you simply believe it.

civilized society

Amazing arrogance.

Who appointed you as the arbiter of what constitutes 'civilized"?

Oh, that's right, you did.

[spin]

22. Gun sales have skyrocketed in the last couple of decades. ...

but gun violence has fallen significantly.

Rate Of U.S. Gun Violence Has Fallen Since 1993, Study Says
MAY 07, 2013 5:06 PM ET

Since 1993, the United States has seen a drop in the rate of homicides and other violence involving guns, according to two new studies released Tuesday. Using government data, analysts saw a steep drop for violence in the 1990s, they saw more modest drops in crime rates since 2000.

"Firearm-related homicides dropped from 18,253 homicides in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011," according to a report by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, "and nonfatal firearm crimes dropped from 1.5 million victimizations in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011.

There were seven gun homicides per 100,000 people in 1993, the Pew Research Center study says, which dropped to 3.6 gun deaths in 2010. The study relied in part on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49 percent lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation's population grew," according to the Pew study. "The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75 percent lower in 2011 than in 1993."
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says

It can be argued that more guns are not the reason for the falling rate of gun violence but obviously more guns does not necessarily mean more crime. Honest and sane citizens can buy dozens of firearms and never kill anyone with a firearm or commit a crime with one. Honest and sane citizens are not the problem but are usually the targets of gun control advocates.

[Starboard Tack]

25. I agree

And as I have said many times, gun ownership is not the problem IMO.
The problem is embeded in the culture, and that is the idea that guns are legitimate problem solving tools to be carried around willy nilly without any thought as to the overall social consequences which fill the headlines daily.

[spin]

26. I have a concealed weapons permit and I carry. ...

However the only problem I would ever hope to solve with my snub nosed revolver is how to stop an attack from an individual who hopes to put me in the hospital for an extended stay or six feet under.

The chances of that ever happening are slim but not nonexistent. Other daily problems can be handled without any display or use of a firearm.

I will agree that our culture tends to glorify firearms. Occasionally I watch a violent movie but after it's over I wonder why people pay money to watch such unrealistic crap. I played some first person shooter games back in the 90s but then realized that these games might be programing me to shoot first and ask questions later.

[AtheistCrusader]

23. Straw man.

"I seriously doubt that pouring more guns into the public arena is going to make America safer"

I'm sorry, I may have missed it, but was someone proposing some new Department of Homeland Security office to stand on the streetcorner and pass out guns for free? Remove all legal restrictions on sales of firearms? Some other positive activity to encourage the proliferation of firearms?

No?

So uh, what DO we do with straw men around here anyway?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

15. Once upon a time the UK tried to seize weapons including 24-pound cannon.

The cannon weren't practical for anything except bombarding fortifications. The failed effort resulted in the United States of America.

[gejohnston]

14. either HuffPo misquoted or Perry

doesn't know the difference between prevention and mitigation.