Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumI saw this as an OP in GD
where it promptly sank like a stone. It seems worthy of more discussion.
Surprising findings from a comprehensive report on gun violence.
Background checks are back. Last week, Vice President Joe Biden said that five U.S. senatorsenough to change the outcomehave told him theyre looking for a way to switch their votes and pass legislation requiring a criminal background check for the purchase of a firearm. Sen. Joe Manchin, the West Virginia Democrat who led the fight for the bill, is firing back at the National Rifle Association with a new TV ad. The White House, emboldened by polls that indicate damage to senators who voted against the bill, is pushing Congress to reconsider it.
The gun control debate is certainly worth reopening. But if were going to reopen it, lets not just rethink the politics. Lets take another look at the facts. Earlier this year, President Obama ordered the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to assess the existing research on gun violence and recommend future studies. That report, prepared by the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council, is now complete. Its findings wont entirely please the Obama administration or the NRA, but all of us should consider them. Heres a list of the 10 most salient or surprising takeaways.
1. The United States has an indisputable gun violence problem. According to the report, the U.S. rate of firearm-related homicide is higher than that of any other industrialized country: 19.5 times higher than the rates in other high-income countries.
2. Most indices of crime and gun violence are getting better, not worse. Overall crime rates have declined in the past decade, and violent crimes, including homicides specifically, have declined in the past 5 years, the report notes. Between 2005 and 2010, the percentage of firearm-related violent victimizations remained generally stable. Meanwhile, firearm-related death rates for youth ages 15 to 19 declined from 1994 to 2009. Accidents are down, too: Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.
Here is a link to the IMNRC report http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2013/Priorities-for-Research-to-Reduce-the-Threat-of-Firearm-Related-Violence.aspx
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Would be a great way to the year.
calimary
(81,437 posts)Hangingon
(3,071 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)sarisataka
(18,755 posts)For CDC backed studies on gun violence it is strange people are so silent.
Could it be due to the fact it supports Kleck more than the studies funded by Joyce Foundation?
It indicates focused gun control policies could be effective.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)Kleck joins two other liberal criminologists (Wright/Rossi) in pointing out that the root causes of gun violence are poverty and lack of opportunity. So legislation aimed at curbing these social ills is beneficial on it's own merits. Of course the same cannot be said of gun restriction -- with no history of success whatsoever.
The real irony and tragedy is that the congressional seats we give away to the GOP over dishonest "gun control" cripples us, since we're less capable of righting the social wrongs that are at the root cause of all violence.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...waiting period for just that specific reason?
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Might even be most places by now.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)And I think the 24/72 is everywhere, no?
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)in to the NCIS. They just put my license number on the form.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Very few states have a waiting period anymore.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)No, the 24/72 is not everywhere.
There may be some kind of waiting period on handguns in WA state, maybe. If so, my conceal pistol license bypasses that.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)And that check against the database, that's a background check that everyone needs to do before buying a firearm, right?
There is a 24/72 waiting period in Illinois for rifle/pistol.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Unfortunately, federal law prohibits anyone who is not a dealer from using it, leaving the general public to find their own way.
S_B_Jackson
(906 posts)In most states, there is no statutory waiting period - Walk into a sporting goods store; ask to purchase a particular firearm (rifle/shotgun/pistol it makes little difference); clerk retrieves firearm and has you complete an ATF form 4473 which takes only 3 or 4 minutes; provide them with my Driver's License; and then a call to the ATF to ensure to have a criminal background check run (or in many state, a valid CCW permit acts in lieu of a background check completely.
15-20 minutes and you're good to go.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)and even so, the wait is imposed for handguns & "assault weapons" in only one (1), Minn. A few (including FL!) impose a delay for handguns only. I can't link, but the source is from a pro-gun-control entity with the slogan "smart gun laws."
There is No fed waiting period beyond the time for the NICS bureaucracy to work, say <30 mins?
sarisataka
(18,755 posts)in MN if you have a permit to carry. Once NCIS clears the sale you take immediate possession.