Gun-toting Texas mom shoots, kills estranged husband and daughter before going to mental Hospital

[UglyGreed]

Veronica Dunnachie, 35, who was charged with double murder on Wednesday, was in the process of getting a divorce and was being forced out of the couple's Arlington, Texas, home by the end of the month, reports said.

Texas mom described as an avid gun rights activist went on a rampage Wednesday, shooting to death her estranged husband and his adult daughter before driving to a mental health hospital, police said.

Veronica Dunnachie, 35, who was in the process of getting a divorce, had been ordered to move out of the couple's Arlington, Texas, home by the end of the month, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported.

Dunnachie sent two children to school and a third to a baby sitter before returning home and allegedly killing Russ Dunnachie, 50, and Kimberly Dunnachie, 20, according to NBC 5. Police have charged her with murder.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/gun-toting-texas-mom-shoots-kills-estranged-husband-cops-article-1.2042769

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1. A very avid gun rights activist, it appears.

Texas mom described as an avid gun rights activist

Open Carry Texas needs to stop toting their guns in public and they need to stop killing people.

It's just not right.

[hlthe2b]

2. I don't know how it could be more pre-meditated than that...

she may well have mental health issues, but I'm not sure that's going to play here...

[peacebird]

3. Premeditated murder. She sent the younger kids away before returning to murder her husband

I don't care if she did then drive to a mental hospital. She is crazy like a fox and should NOT be allowed to get off for a double homicide by committing herself to a mental hospital. It's like murdering your parents then pleading for leniency because you are an orphan!

[pkdu]

4. Gun-humping....a co-Ed sport. These people make me sick. Nt

[stone space]

15. This ammosexual's named one of her gunz, "Size Matters".

[ileus]

24. Is that a 50BMG?

[friendly_iconoclast]

35. What do ammophobes call it?

[UglyGreed]

5. IMO The drive to the hospital

was suggested by her friend to lay the ground for her defense.....

[COLGATE4]

6. Also keeps Cops from questioning her - time to

get her story straight.

[Fred Sanders]

7. Another firearm kept by the family "for protection" used in the killing of a family member.

Another example of how owning a firearm actually and provably increases your chances of being killed. Period.

A gun makes the otherwise difficult task of killing another human being so easy peasy that even the mentally ill and deranged, the wheelchair bound and infirm can do it. Kill.

Even infants can do the deadly deed, no training required, no wait time needed because children, the mentally ill, cretins, anyone with a pulse and either a desire or a foolishness can use the weapon as it was manufactured to do.

Kill. And be killed. The gun.

[ileus]

8. Only this was the family member that wasn't...

And knowing her mental state he should have taken measures to assure she couldn't get access to the family. Or taken the steps to protect his life and loved ones with a personal self defense safety device.

At least then he may have had a fighting chance, instead of being an easy victim.

[Fred Sanders]

9. Awesome. Your advice is to be on better look out for mental illness? Was that sarcasm, because

then what you said makes some sense, it is hilarious.

I sill laugh now in your defence....LOL.

[ileus]

10. You see what ignoring mental illness and going around unarmed got him.

[NYC_SKP]

11. People who want to snip the Bill of Rights because of their own paranoia don't have to make sense.

It's a logic disorder: they want only to appeal to emotion.

"Oh, if only there was a law to take everyone's guns away then this family..."

Then this family what? Would be peaceful, normal, sane, stable?

It's laughable.

[Fred Sanders]

12. No gun, no die, it is the gun that permits easy peasy death as the consequence, why is

that beyond some folks pay grades. I guess it just is?

[NYC_SKP]

14. Context. Is it really OK for you if only police and armies and governments have guns?

And, what is the plan for gathering up all the guns already out in the world?

What is the plan for preventing people from making their own firearms and ammo? More government and police?

When the entire context is considered, one ends right back with the Second Amendment and has to say, yeah, those old dudes were really on to something.

Now we all support background checks and we think enforcement of existing laws is critical, but people on the other side just like to use terms like ammosexual because they have no other arguments.

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17. This ammosexual toted her gunz in public.

And, what is the plan for gathering up all the guns already out in the world?

In a just society, the police would have confiscated all of her gunz for such threatening behavior.

Instead, the cops stood by and did nothing, allowing her to murder two people.

It's the same way they reacted with this ammosexual, allowing him to keep his gunz after threatening all of the men, women, and children at the OCCUPY encampment.

Again, the cops just stood by and did nothing, allowing him to keep his gunz and go on to massacre 4 people, including a 15 month baby girl.

[NYC_SKP]

18. Arguably, our knowing that they have a gun makes us safer. Also, it's a local decision.

I have no beef with people in Lodi saying we don't want those Sons of Anarchy dudes open carrying because it scares us and we have seen the show.

But if someone in, oh, Arlington VA is upset with the local codes in Lodi, I think they should keep it to themselves (to put it mildly).

I support open carry where the community feels it's OK.

Arlington's citizens are not members of the Lodi or the Nome, AK community, so I would tell them to go peddle their papers.

[sarisataka]

16. Well damn,

who knew it's that easy. I can't believe sociologists never noticed every murder is committed with a gun. Ok, I'm on board- ban them all.

Other crimes are more complicated; you need evidence and shit. Well let's just streamline that and drop that search warrant requirement. No warrant, get evidence, crime solved bing-bang-boom.

We don't like hearing that RW B.S. Let's drop that free press talking point and shut their their asses down.

I've got a few ideas on religion and how to punish people to reduce repeat offenders I can run by ya later...

[NYC_SKP]

19. No water, no die.

Oh shit, now I'm thirsty!

But I guess I'll have to drink something else.

[sarisataka]

20. Dangerous stuff that

hat are some of the dangers associated with DHMO?

Each year, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a known causative component in many thousands of deaths and is a major contributor to millions upon millions of dollars in damage to property and the environment. Some of the known perils of Dihydrogen Monoxide are:

Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

There are literally thousands of laws regulating this substance but the many are routinely ignored http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/us/13water.html?pagewanted=all

[friendly_iconoclast]

34. Another poster in this thread has advocated ignoring the law and just arresting people...

...that are doing things they don't like:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12627517

If only the police had been called and their guns confiscated when they toted them around in public

As always, it's not really about guns...it's about control

[ileus]

26. Exactly....just ask my Grandmother.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

31. No alcohol

No DUI

No sexual assault

No domestic violence

No liver disease

[DonP]

13. C'mon, give the poor controllers a break

They're pretty pathetic these days.

They have an unhappy and eternally frustrated world view. In spite of their obvious moral superiority, superior intelligence, ad hominem comment policy and their vow of eternal allegiance to the 20+ year old Kellerman "Study" they still seem angry and unhappy all the time.

Poor people, the only thing they seem to post on anymore is to "celebrate" the death of someone when a gun is used. Heck, we already have 3 or 4 threads on this murder in Texas. (Not sure why it's always here and not in the True Crime or Bansalot?)

It seems, based on that recent Pew Poll, that their world view is actually losing traction every month, in spite of their foaming at the mouth over every crime with a gun and ignoring the FBI UCR.

Even the Bansalot cheering squad finally gave up on the "Turning the Corner" fantasy.

[Fred Sanders]

21. Confusing concern with "celebration", another example of how twisted smear is used to justify loving

instruments of death, Attack the messenger, twist the message, just ask every army in the world their preferred weapon.

[Straw Man]

22. Preference.

just ask every army in the world their preferred weapon.

I'm sure that the answer will be missiles, in all their infinite variety.

[DonP]

23. Perfect! Thanks for proving my point

"Concern"? You might be more credible and less laughable if you focused your "concern" on the victims instead of focusing on the implement so simple and single mindedly.

Funny, I wasn't aware any army's "preferred weapon" was a semi auto sporting rifle? But I bow to your superior military expertise.

You are hysterically funny and/or woefully misguided. But either way, you keep losing ground on your chosen "online only" crusade.

But cheer up, maybe some day someone will listen to you and not laugh out loud. But not today.

[ileus]

25. guns kill people donjaknow!

[Nuclear Unicorn]

32. Bare hands and baseball bats kill more than semi-automatic rifles. Perhaps miliaries should convert.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

28. Is this the advice you give to women who have been abused?

Maybe they should have taken better steps? After all, isn't murder just the ultimate abuse?

[Fred Sanders]

29. They are not much into logic, the gun folk have to create alternative realities to justify ownership

of a deadly weapon, to cover for the reality of their own paranoia is the main reason. It is some times amusing to tear apart the flimsy construct they use.

[DonP]

30. What's your advice?

If a woman has an abusive ex or significant other that has threatened her repeatedly?

Another restraining order or two? Move and change her name? Call 911? Have the cops talk to him again?

What's your recommendation as a last resort when everything else you've tried has failed?

That's not a philosophical argument. Look up Ronyale White in Chicago. She did everything she was supposed to do and the police have a great 911 recording of her three calls and her ex husband kicking in her front door, then her bedroom door, then her bathroom door and killing her while she waited 12 minutes for the cops.

Even a single shot shotgun in her hands might have saved her life.

Every month I have 2 or 3 women in my classes that have reached that point.

But I'm sure you're smarter and have a better solution for them than taking steps to being responsible for their own safety, right?

[ileus]

33. Did you somehow think I recommended the abused to roll over and die for their attackers?

If you're abused would you not recommend better steps and decisions?


If you're abused remove yourself or the abuser from the home. Then take the necessary steps to protect yourself and family.

[Historic NY]

27. Her culpable mental state.....

to throughly plan this out in detail is not one of mental derangement. She is so smart she betrayed herself, but it was a nice touch going to a mental health hospital.