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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 10:33 AM Apr 2014

Open carry advocates can put police in tough situations

There was a day before Bluetooth and hands-free cellular phone communication when if you saw someone talking to themselves walking down the street, you might think that person was emotionally disturbed. I must admit that sometimes when I see someone, in public, walking and talking to themselves, I still do a double take to see if that person is talking on a phone or trying to beam themselves up to the mothership.

Now let’s consider that same person talking to themselves walking down the street with a holstered handgun. Would you think this was odd or suspicious? What if that person was walking toward a school, mall, place of worship, through a neighborhood, on a beach, in a park or parking lot? Would you call the police?

In times like these, many of you would call the police, because you would not want to have it on your conscience that something terrible was about to happen and you did nothing. Bravo! You should call and have the police check it out, if you believe that anyone appears out of sorts, armed and potentially dangerous.

Now put yourself in the shoes of the police officer who just received the “man or woman with a gun” call. “Officer” you will no doubt be thinking of Columbine, Aurora, Sandy Hook, Fort Hood or any other school, theater, mall, fast food restaurant or parking lot where some deranged pathetic loser has opened fire and killed or wounded innocent citizens or children for whatever reason their twisted mind concocted.

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/rich_kinsey_column_open_carry.html
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Open carry advocates can put police in tough situations (Original Post) SecularMotion Apr 2014 OP
How about some examples of open carry that erupted in murder? DonP Apr 2014 #1
I see anybody besides the cops and military swaggering around with a gun Warpy Apr 2014 #2
Based on crime statistics, "wild and dangerous country" describes many of our cities, not wilderness Jgarrick Apr 2014 #4
You should be SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #3
"Tough situations" require tough data. Anyone out there? Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #5
Bueller? Bueller? (NT) blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #6
I am sure he will be right here Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #14
Tough issue. merrily Apr 2014 #7
If I see somebody who is not a cop with a gun, I call the cops. (nt) stone space Apr 2014 #8
Chances are that if it's legal where you live, IronGate Apr 2014 #9
I bet you can identify a concealed weapon from 100 yards clffrdjk Apr 2014 #10
Holstered firearm in public = not an issue. ileus Apr 2014 #11
Please tell me Kinsey doesn't get paid to write this silliness. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #12
Kick SecularMotion Sep 2015 #13
Thats sad Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #15
Scary sarisataka Sep 2015 #16
That guy in the picture is carrying a gun. beevul Sep 2015 #17
See post #1: still waiting for examples, a year later and nothing? DonP Sep 2015 #18
Reviving zombie threads doesn't seem to be working as planned... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #19
 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
1. How about some examples of open carry that erupted in murder?
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 10:50 AM
Apr 2014

The examples given in the article seem to conflate planned attacks by mentally deranged people that were already banned from owning any firearm with Open Carry participants.

An example or two of actual ordinary citizens open carrying and going instantly berserk would support your implied need for concern.

I'm sure your Google file must have dozens of them from places like Arizona where it's common, right?

Warpy

(111,275 posts)
2. I see anybody besides the cops and military swaggering around with a gun
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 10:58 AM
Apr 2014

I leave the area. I just want to be away from any crossfire.

This state is bristling with guns and people on the outskirts of the cities and farther out need them, it's still wild and dangerous country. However, the guns here are necessary tools, not accoutrements to masculinity or security blankets to be toted in public.

 

Jgarrick

(521 posts)
4. Based on crime statistics, "wild and dangerous country" describes many of our cities, not wilderness
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 11:27 AM
Apr 2014

Making the carrying of firearms there all the more appropriate, yes?

 

SevenSixtyTwo

(255 posts)
3. You should be
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 11:13 AM
Apr 2014

More concerned about the cell phone. It's infinitely more like to be the cause of distraction and a traffic accident leading to your early demise.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
9. Chances are that if it's legal where you live,
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:43 PM
Apr 2014

the cops will ask if the person is brandishing it, or threatening anyone with it, if not, they'll probably tell you that they're doing nothing illegal and have a nice day.

 

clffrdjk

(905 posts)
10. I bet you can identify a concealed weapon from 100 yards
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 11:24 PM
Apr 2014

You don't happen to have a can of beans or a bicycle wheel on you?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
15. Thats sad
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:53 AM
Sep 2015

all you are left with is kicking a 6 month old Google cut and paste. Must be really slow times in the group you host.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
18. See post #1: still waiting for examples, a year later and nothing?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:41 PM
Sep 2015

No police shootings of open carriers?

No open Carriers gunned down by criminals?

So, aside from annoying the piss out of some folks for a year, what have you and your friends got to show for all your "sturm und drang" over it?

Must be frustrating to be so consistently wrong on an issue year after year.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
19. Reviving zombie threads doesn't seem to be working as planned...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 05:53 PM
Sep 2015

Not only does it smell of desperation, unanswered questions like yours point out
the intellectual dishonesty of their movement.

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