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Then I'm sure you must be VERY active in gun control in Illinois. 
We're you outside Mega Sports in Plainfield or GAT Guns in East Dundee with protest signs supporting Gun control and trying to discourage people from getting new FOID cards?
Maybe you drove your self down to Springfield back in March with a carload of like minded citizens, to protest Concealed Carry to counter I-GOLD with 10,000 marching?
Tell us, how many protests have you been involved in here while the whole CCW legislation was being resolved.
Or do you just sit on the couch and whine about what's happening?
What I "rejoice in" is people being able to make their own choices instead of letting some uninformed dim bulb tell them what's good for them.
Now go play and award some "points" for crimes.
I love it when one of our resident wingnuts is exposed as another shill for the gun lobby. 
the finest plasticware he could find. Chicago had 500 murders in 2012. I don't know where he got the nonsense he does. Oh, none of them were with legal handguns, since they don't exist in Chicago.
Especially when it fits your agenda
Oh, right, calling out wingnuts and congratulating those who verbally eviscerate them with the truth. Quite an agenda.
How pathetic.
How much courage does it take to post insulting claptrap about gun rights supporters on a progressive board.
None. If there's something that is the antithesis of courage, then that's what it takes to do that.
You're right, it's all they got.
An echo chamber withing an echo chamber with zero tolerance for anyone who suggests alternative points of view, and a running thread in the hosts forum discussing who's going to be banned next.
You know which side is losing when they have to have that much cover on a progressive discussion board.
What you meant was the new of new gun owners were inconsequential. This is a baseless assertion.
Lose the haughty tones. You're not nearly as cool as you pretend.
Specious & faulty reasoning, Illinois did no such 'compliant' thing. There are about a dozen states, mostly western, which previously allowed for prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons written into their state constitutions, mostly in 1800s. There was then no outcry that this violated the US constitution nor 2ndA, and so far it doesn't.
I was referring to the new laws in wake of the McDonald ruling. How the 1800's have anything to do with that is inscrutable. Nor is it relevant since I was addressing the ban on ownership, not CC vs OC.
Someone once said, "if you have trouble comprehending that's your problem."
Considering he can make coherent statements and you have yet to provide countering evidence -- yes.
It's weird how this is always cast as a party affiliation issue with the grabbers. I can't help but think it is really nothing more than an authoritarian impulse to fear an unruly populace.
Really? Because the cities themselves seem to be politically inclined towards gun control.
Pointless and erratic Wharfgarble non-withstanding ... an amazing ability to ignore the substance and focus on the irrelevant.
So there aren't 400,000 new gun buyers with new FOID cards in the last few years and still growing at 60,000+ a month?
The Illinois State Police don't expect 400,000 new CCW permits in 2014?
Idiot Gun Grabbers never claimed that there are fewer new gun owners, just the same people buying more guns for their arsenals?
Illinois isn't run completely by Democrats, with a grand total of one GOP holding a state office?
The gun control crowd didn't announce in mid year that "90% of America agreed with their proposals for extensive new gun regulation"?
Oh well, this week another batch of CCW instructors were approved by the Illinois State Police, bringing the total to around 1,200 so far. That's another way of pointing out the obvious, that gun control activism is a joke as far as legislative impact goes. You can't even get a single state to consider repealing CCW and many are loosening restrictions.
For all the pompous, poorly reasoned "corrections" and condescension you spew in random directions like a maniac lawn sprinkler with a broken head, it still doesn't do anything but make you feel all warm, kind of like pissing your pants at a bus stop in a navy blue suit in the rain. Nobody else notices but you get to feel all warm about it.
Undoubtedly all the new Illinois instructors must be radical right wingers, because everyone with half a brain - and we certainly have a few here that easily qualify - know that no "Real Dem" would ever be involved in CCW activity.
Except of course for the guys that wrote the law and the Dem Super majorities in both houses that passed it and over rode a ridiculous amendatory veto with an even larger majority, but they can't be real Dems, right? Maybe it's that non-existent right wing Cabal in the Illinois state house? The ones that secretly tell speaker Madigan what to do after he's run the House with a D majority for 32 years?
Pssst, reading an online speech from fuckwad, lying union busting Rahm about crime, proves you know jack and shit, not necessarily in that order, about Illinois or its politics.
Maybe someday I'll be smart enough to be able to figure out how passing CCW in July of 2013, to go into effect in 2014, drove record high FOID Card applications and gun sales in 2010, 2011 and 2012?
I'm sure there's some gun control logic to that "fact", right?
Again, why do you waste all your brilliance up here in the Gungeon, I beg you to share it in your private forum where all you'll get is applause? Oh that's right nobody answers you there.
At least here we're all polite enough to laugh out loud at you.
