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hack89

(39,171 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 01:59 PM Jul 2013

Man who fired off shotgun: Biden told me to do it

(CNN) – A Washington state man pleaded not guilty Wednesday to illegally firing a shotgun to scare people off his property, saying he was just following Vice President Joe Biden's advice.

"I did what Joe Biden told me to do," Barton told CNN affiliate KOIN. "I went outside and fired my shotgun in the air."

He (Biden) added that he tells his wife, Jill, that "if there's ever a problem just walk out on the balcony here ... put that double-barreled shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house."

Barton faces one count of illegal aiming or discharging a firearm.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/17/man-who-fired-off-shotgun-biden-told-me-to-do-it/

Never saw this one coming.

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Man who fired off shotgun: Biden told me to do it (Original Post) hack89 Jul 2013 OP
Mr. Barton shouldn't own firearms. rdharma Jul 2013 #1
Joe Biden should not give advice on guns. hack89 Jul 2013 #2
That idiot (Barton) got himself in legal problems. rdharma Jul 2013 #4
I know what Barton did was illegal hack89 Jul 2013 #5
Do I support randomly firing bullets in the air? rdharma Jul 2013 #6
So you agree that warning shots are a very bad idea. nt hack89 Jul 2013 #8
It's a bad idea........ and that moron (Barton) should have known that. rdharma Jul 2013 #11
And if Barton was shooting birdshot from his shotgun? That would be ok? nt hack89 Jul 2013 #12
No. Because it's obviously illegal to discharge a firearm where he resides. nt rdharma Jul 2013 #14
So the fact that Biden was only talking about birdshot is irrelevant, right? hack89 Jul 2013 #16
The fact that you keep trying to attack VP Biden is obvious...... rdharma Jul 2013 #18
Poking holes in your logic is not attacking VP Biden hack89 Jul 2013 #19
You're poking holes in nothing....... you're attacking VP Biden....... and it's quite obvious! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #20
Ok - if you say so. nt hack89 Jul 2013 #21
Is pointing out that Jenoch Jul 2013 #31
Who hasn't been peppered by birdshot at some point and time.... ileus Jul 2013 #24
Yes, it has happened to me. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #29
There's the Dick Cheney type of direct fire at close range........ rdharma Jul 2013 #32
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #33
Now you've revealed yourself! Repeating RW BS lies from the Blaze! rdharma Jul 2013 #34
Nope... Jenoch Jul 2013 #35
Sure you do! And your brother probably also witnessed the incident, eh? rdharma Jul 2013 #36
And you have proof Barton is a RW nut job? rl6214 Jul 2013 #9
You don't think Barton is a nut job? rdharma Jul 2013 #15
Definately a nut job rl6214 Jul 2013 #17
He's just a-Biden' by the rules! Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #25
And you think Ryan would have better advice, eh? rdharma Jul 2013 #26
You mean Robert Ryan the late actor? What's he got to do with... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #27
You're as funny as Brad Stein! rdharma Jul 2013 #28
If someone told him to jump off the bridge, sounds like this guy would do it. n/t woodsprite Jul 2013 #3
I always tell my kids that those politicians are a bad influence. nt hack89 Jul 2013 #10
Does this mean Biden will be a witness at his trial rl6214 Jul 2013 #7
I think the moron would be better off just dropping that BS...... rdharma Jul 2013 #13
only to the extent if the judge allows it for a defense gejohnston Jul 2013 #22
go jump in a lake jimmy the one Jul 2013 #23
It seems a good bet that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #30
 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
1. Mr. Barton shouldn't own firearms.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 02:17 PM
Jul 2013

He's plainly an irrational nut job......... probably Republican.

The VP said "if you want to protect YOURSELF" ...... not your damn car!

hack89

(39,171 posts)
2. Joe Biden should not give advice on guns.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jul 2013

we all knew when he said it that it was stupid advice that would get someone in legal trouble.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
4. That idiot (Barton) got himself in legal problems.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jul 2013

And I see that you are rooting for that crazy RW nutjob with the gun, while getting a dig in on VP Biden. Now why does that not come as a surprise?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
5. I know what Barton did was illegal
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jul 2013

that was my point - Biden's advice was stupid.

Are you a big supporter of randomly firing bullets into the air?

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
6. Do I support randomly firing bullets in the air?
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:00 PM
Jul 2013

No. But my RW gun nut racist neighbors down the road do.

But they haven't done that since I told them the Sheriff's Office would be contacted if there was a repeat of their 4th of July celebratory aerial gun fire.

Heck! They even limited themselves to actual fireworks when they celebrated Zimmerman's acquittal.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
11. It's a bad idea........ and that moron (Barton) should have known that.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jul 2013

But you know that.

Besides, VP Biden was talking about bird shot....... NOT bullets.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
16. So the fact that Biden was only talking about birdshot is irrelevant, right?
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jul 2013

doesn't matter what you are shooting, it is a crime.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
18. The fact that you keep trying to attack VP Biden is obvious......
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jul 2013

Wouldn't that be a better thread to post over in Freeperville?

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
20. You're poking holes in nothing....... you're attacking VP Biden....... and it's quite obvious! nt
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jul 2013
 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
31. Is pointing out that
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jul 2013

Vice-president Biden was wrong when he suggested firing a shotgun into the air the same as 'attacking' him?

ileus

(15,396 posts)
24. Who hasn't been peppered by birdshot at some point and time....
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:33 PM
Jul 2013

with enough hunting seasons under ones belt it's almost guaranteed you'll get a stray pellet or 50 rain down from above.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
29. Yes, it has happened to me.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jul 2013

Other hunters shooting at dove flying above them, pellets come down gently, don't harm anything.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
32. There's the Dick Cheney type of direct fire at close range........
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 03:39 PM
Jul 2013

......... and then there's the harmless dropping from the sky type.

Quite a bit of difference.

Response to rdharma (Reply #32)

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
34. Now you've revealed yourself! Repeating RW BS lies from the Blaze!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jul 2013

But it really comes as no surprise to me........ I spotted you LONG AGO!

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
35. Nope...
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:29 PM
Jul 2013

You've discovered nothing. I have a brother in Moorhead and remembers when it happened. At the time, Schultz was a sportscaster on a Fargo television station. He may have had a radio show too, but it happened so long ago, Ed was a right winger and was attempting to be a Rush Limbaugh clone. Just because you don't know the history of Minnesota/North Dakota media types does not make me a right winger.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
17. Definately a nut job
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jul 2013

I ll withhold judgement on what type of nut job until I have a little more info. I'm kinda funny that way, not jumping to conclusions.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
26. And you think Ryan would have better advice, eh?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 11:00 AM
Jul 2013

Barton is just a RW nut job trying to make his political point........ Much like some here on DU.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
27. You mean Robert Ryan the late actor? What's he got to do with...
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 11:06 AM
Jul 2013

...a bowl of Vietnamese noodles & shrimp?

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
7. Does this mean Biden will be a witness at his trial
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:03 PM
Jul 2013

Or can he just play the video of Biden making that statement?

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
13. I think the moron would be better off just dropping that BS......
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:14 PM
Jul 2013

.... and throw his fate to the mercy of the court.

Saying that he was following VP Biden's advice is just likely to piss off the judge.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
22. only to the extent if the judge allows it for a defense
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jul 2013

But I'm guessing he is hoping for an all Bachman/Palin fan club jury.

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
23. go jump in a lake
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jul 2013

hack: Joe Biden should not give advice on guns.

Neither should most gunnuts. Agree? Disincludes most gun owners. Biden was speaking comparatively to possession of assault rifles, figuratively imo how it's better to have a shotgun.

hack: .. we all knew when he said it that it was stupid advice that would get someone in legal trouble.

Uh, freedom of speech go over your head? like woodsprite said, would you jump over a cliff if someone said it's the better way to go? Hey hack, go jump in a lake.

rdharma That idiot (Barton) got himself in legal problems. And I see that you are rooting for that crazy RW nutjob with the gun, while getting a dig in on VP Biden. Now why does that not come as a surprise?

Yeah. Remember the alamo. And ex cop law stud aka ex DU poster. Thin blue line.

hack: Biden's advice was stupid. Are you a big supporter of randomly firing bullets into the air?

Spoken extemporaneously off the cuff on the air, happens now & then, remember the ronald reagan bombing USSR; if biden stands by it in court, different story, but what he said is subject to subjectivity. Ted nugent said he'd be dead or in prison if obama reelected, spike lee said shoot heston, stupid talk retracted.

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