Sheriff: man shot alleged burglar in self defense

[ileus]

http://www.news-record.com/news/crime/article_31deae34-e7c8-11e2-889b-0019bb30f31a.html


Around here copper wire is now under lock and key and out of sight always.

[rdharma]

1. Killed a man for a friggin' "property crime"!

Oh, brother!

[hack89]

2. Did you read the part where the thief charged him?

if the thief would have simply ran away he would be alive.

[rdharma]

3. Yeah..... RIIIIIIGHT!

Charged a man with a shotgun! Surrrrrrre!

I bet that happens a lot there in Mayberry.

And Sheriff Andy lets the killer walk.

[hack89]

5. A guy with a criminal record in a three strikes law state

I suspect he was desperate enough.

Interesting you always take the side of the criminal.

[rdharma]

7. No, I'm not taking the side of the thieving dirt bag.

But unlike you, I'm not taking the side of the unjustified killer either!

[hack89]

8. You have take the side of the thief to come to an unjustified conclusion.

[rdharma]

9. No. You just have to not be so gullible......

.... that you would believe the killers "justification for murder" story.

Come on! I'll bet even you don't believe that BS story the business owner made up!

[premium]

22. Where's your proof that he made the story up?

I mean, besides your vivid imagination.

[premium]

16. Apparently

the Sheriff and the law disagree with your opinion him being an unjustified killer.

Hmmmm, who do I believe? The Sheriff, who investigated the shooting? Or an anonymous poster?
I'll believe the Sheriff, you know, the person who actually investigated the shooting.

[CokeMachine]

4. Not just property.

From the story:

Jesse Ray Walker, 28, of Reidsville, was shot and killed at the business. Business owner Steve Hall shot him with a shotgun after Walker charged him, Page said.

[rdharma]

6. 'pushing away rolls of copper'

That's property!

Evidently if you shoot a man dead for a property crime in Mayberry, you can get away with it by saying that "he charged me".

Sure! Instead of getting the hell out of there, the thief thought he'd charge a guy with a shotgun!

Does that even pass the stink test? Really?

[DonP]

10. Feel free to send a check to the memorial fund for the deceased

You seem to be very concerned that justice was not done here.

I'm sure you'll want to send a check to the memorial fund for the deceased to show how serious you are about this and to support further investigation and possible prosecution of the shooter.

Or do you just pretend to be empathetic online?

[rdharma]

11. Feel free to justify killing for a "property crime"! nt

I guess that's the law in Mayberry.

Even the shooters wife said the thieves made a run for it.

"Steve Hall left his home armed with a shotgun, she said. Joan Hall saw the two men run towards Flat Rock Road. She also heard one or two shots fired, she told the dispatcher." http://www.news-record.com/news/local_news/article_ac232cd6-eb03-11e2-bac9-0019bb30f31a.html

I guess the guy who got shot thought he would just turn and charge a guy with a shotgun.

[DonP]

12. Crooks are stupid

If it makes you feel better consider it "suicide by threatened property owner".

If the deceased would have stayed home watching reruns of I Love Lucy, no problem. But he made other, poor choices.

[rdharma]

13. No. More like a "legalized killing of a human being" by a pissed off property owner......

.... who knew he could get away with murder in Mayberry.

[DonP]

17. So, no contribution to his memorial fund - imagine my surprise!

Another keyboard commando for justice that talks a good game on activism and always seems to take the side of the criminal, who of course was just minding his own business when the big bad gun owner shot him.

Crooks are stupid and often unwittingly volunteer for the Darwin competition. This is a great example of that.

But the real world fact is, you don't do anything but whine online about any of this. .

Buh, bye

[rdharma]

19. No, I'm more interested it getting the "open season to legally murder" laws revoked in NC.......

We saw what happened in Sanford, FL with these laws.

[DonP]

40. Riiiiight and which states are YOu working on that with your activist posse?

You mean you're still just whining online with your activist posse here, and really doing not a damn thing in the real world about anything related to gun control in North Carolina or anywhere else. No memberships, no contributions and relying on Bloomberg to do all the work for you.

We can all tell how active you are at "getting the "open season to legally murder" laws revoked in NC"

Let us know when you get a petition started. Ha!

[rdharma]

41. You're funny!

[CokeMachine]

42. Typical of your responses!!

Where's the beef?? At least I'll admit I'm eating chicken and not trying to snow everyone!!

[premium]

18. Feel free to keep distorting the facts,

after all, you're very good at it.

[rdharma]

20. I didn't distort anything.......

..... I just called BS on this business owner's story for his legal justification for murder.

Does that bother you?

[premium]

21. Were you there?

Did you see it go down? If you did, have you told the Sheriff your side of the story yet?

[rdharma]

24. Just like the Zimmerman case ...... it's "the legal murderer's" word ........

........ against the dead man's.

These laws really open up the possibilities to commit murder and "legally" get away with it.

[premium]

25. IOW, you weren't there,

I guess I'll just have to believe the Sheriff, you know, the person who actually investigated the shooting.

[rdharma]

27. Sheriff Andy wasn't there. And the only living witness to the shooting.......

......... is the guy who pulled the trigger.

Just like the Zimmerman case.

[gejohnston]

28. I'm sure there is forensic evidence

and the guy who ran is a witness. Zimmerman had two witnesses. The trouble with these articles is that they never give out important details. Media also distorts reality and often needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

[rdharma]

30. No, I don't think the other guy that was running looked back.

And you think "Mayberry CSI" is going to come up with the truth of what really happened?

Oh, puhlease........ give me a break!

[gejohnston]

31. Given LA's ability during the OJ trial,

Or the Duvall County ME that was fired from another county for unsanitary conditions, or Seminole County that leaves wet clothes in plastic bags for a month, destroying DNA, not bagging hands to preserve DNA. You might have a valid point for a change.
If you know any CSI types, I think Seminole County, FL, will be hiring after a deserved house cleaning.

[Jenoch]

29. There was a witness.

The dead burglar had an accomplice.

[rdharma]

32. See above!

Two guys running from a guy with a shotgun.

The only thought in that accomplice's mind was getting distance between himself and the guy with the scatter gun!

He wasn't looking back...... and even if he was, his testimony wouldn't be worth shit anyhow!

[CokeMachine]

33. Wrong as usual --

Again from the article -- did you even bother to read it?? There actually was a witness/accomplice. Oops!!

According to Page, Hanks was arrested at his home Monday morning, and implicated himself and Walker in the break-in. Page said Hanks fled after Walker was shot.

Bolding mine.

[rdharma]

34. Something tells me that Hanks was beating feet before that happened!

Know what I mean? Unless Mrs. Business owner was lying to the dispatcher before the shooting occured!

[CokeMachine]

35. I can only go by the information given in the story.

If you have more information (not speculation) then please shar it with me.

Have a great afternoon!!

[rdharma]

37. And I gave what the dispatcher reported......

"Steve Hall left his home armed with a shotgun, she said. Joan Hall saw the two men run towards Flat Rock Road. She also heard one or two shots fired, she told the dispatcher."

[CokeMachine]

39. Yep -- conflicting information.

We may never know the truth.

Take Care,
CM

[Jenoch]

36. 'Something tells' you?

Please Provide a link so the rest of us can learn your 'facts'.

[rdharma]

38. Do your own homework!

Sweet jeebus on a bike!

[NYC_SKP]

23. And it's the last time that particular person will commit a crime.

I suppose some would say that the criminal is entitled to be a thief without fear of repercussion, that the victim should just stand by and call police and hope for the best.

But many of us think that the criminal's "rights" to not feel the paid ends at the property line.

Add to that the likelihood that the criminal has the capacity to become violent and many of us feel that it's better to be safe than sorry.

I wasn't there this time but I'm not shedding any tears over this.

[rdharma]

26. Like I said, I'm not crying over the loss of this particular thief's life........

......... I'm talking about the owner's ability to carry out "legalized murder" and get away with it.

Under these bizarre "SYG laws" and "Castle Doctrine laws" we're going to be seeing many more such cases. And the victims are not always going to be "deserving" scumbags!

[gejohnston]

14. What state is this?

http://legisweb.state.wy.us/statutes/statutes.aspx?file=titles/Title6/T6CH2AR6.htm
Not Wyoming.

[ManiacJoe]

15. The contact page says NC.