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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:23 PM Feb 2013

Fear of a Black Gun Owner - The NRA Supported Gun Control When The Black Panthers Started Packing

By: Edward Wyckoff Williams

(The Root) -- It may seem hard to believe, but the modern-day gun-rights debate was born from the civil rights era and inspired by the Black Panthers. Equally surprising is that the National Rifle Association -- now an aggressive lobbying arm for gun manufacturers -- actually once supported, and helped write, federal gun-control laws.

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It is ironic that the modern-day argument for citizens to arm themselves against unwarranted government oppression -- dominated, as it is, by angry white men -- has its roots in the foundation of the 1960s Black Panther movement. Huey Newton and Bobby Seale became inspired by Malcolm X's admonishment that because government was "either unable or unwilling to protect the lives and property" of African Americans, they ought to defend themselves "by any means necessary."

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The Panthers responded to racial violence by patrolling black neighborhoods brandishing guns -- in an effort to police the police. The fear of black people with firearms sent shockwaves across white communities, and conservative lawmakers immediately responded with gun-control legislation.

Then Gov. Ronald Reagan, now lauded as the patron saint of modern conservatism, told reporters in California that he saw "no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons." Reagan claimed that the Mulford Act, as it became known, "would work no hardship on the honest citizen." The NRA actually helped craft similar legislation in states across the country. Fast-forward to 2013, and it is a white-male dominated NRA, largely made up of Southern conservatives and gun owners from the Midwest and Southwestern states, that argues "do not tread on me" in the gun debate.

http://www.theroot.com/views/fear-black-gun-owner?page=0,0

Further proof that the NRA and their right wing enablers are racist. They were all for gun control when blacks wanted to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights during the civil rights movement, but now they don't care for gun control when whites do the same thing. Saint Ronnie Reagan was also a racist piece of shit.

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Fear of a Black Gun Owner - The NRA Supported Gun Control When The Black Panthers Started Packing (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 OP
k/r Dawson Leery Feb 2013 #1
If I remember correctly the Black Panthers first upaloopa Feb 2013 #2
Let's undo the damage. Will you support repeal of these laws? Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #3
Let me guess: The OP has no idea who Robert F. Williams was... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2013 #5
...because it doesn't fit the re-written historical narrative. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #15
Well, that's a quandry DonP Feb 2013 #7
That's strange, the NRA had no problem with Robert F. Williams and his Black Guard friendly_iconoclast Feb 2013 #4
are you saying that as liberals we should gejohnston Feb 2013 #6
If you repeal the 1986 GOPA, you could do a national registry. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #13
I was concentrating on the laws of that era gejohnston Feb 2013 #14
so did the rest of the democratic party back then. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #8
you should review the Democratic party position on African Americans in the 50's and 60's iiibbb Feb 2013 #9
Cali_Democrat -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2013 #10
Every citizen needs to show their 2A support in times like these. ileus Feb 2013 #11
A most interesting post. Thank you. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #12
From your characterization... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #16
You're making the classic mistake ... holdencaufield Feb 2013 #17

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. If I remember correctly the Black Panthers first
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:34 PM
Feb 2013

formed as an armed body guard for Malcom X's wife on a trip to Los Angeles.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
5. Let me guess: The OP has no idea who Robert F. Williams was...
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:46 PM
Feb 2013

...or the fact that he had an NRA charter for his 'rifle club'...

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
7. Well, that's a quandry
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:11 PM
Feb 2013

Is the NRA evil because years ago they didn't want black men to carry guns on the street?

Or is the NRA evil because they now want black men to be able to carry guns on the street?

Easy answer - it doesn't matter, they are all evil all the time because "GUNZ ARE EVIL!

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
6. are you saying that as liberals we should
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:46 PM
Feb 2013

seek to repeal
California's ban on open carry
the Gun Control Act of 1968
NC's handgun purchase licensing requirement, passed during Jim Crow
IL's FOID requirement?

With the NRA, its a little more complex than that. The NRA leadership were mostly "Fudds" and Olympic sport shooters who were more and not really about the 2A. They also supported laws that were really "least worst" concessions. The manufactures in the US supported the military surplus ban because of the flood of surplus bolt action rifles as miltaries started dumping them and switching to assault rifles and semi auto battle rifles.

Granted, the current leadership is a collection of neocons, corporatists, and a convicted poacher/draft dodger/has been rocker, but that has nothing with the old guard of that era.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
14. I was concentrating on the laws of that era
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:06 AM
Feb 2013

and I'm not a fan of registries. They create jobs by making lists, but I don't see how it would actually do much. I would rather spend the money building schools and fixing other infrastructure.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,482 posts)
16. From your characterization...
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 11:04 PM
Feb 2013

...I'd infer that you're not fan of Reagan. Therefore, in this discussion, you favor the position taken by the Panthers advocating the right to open carry? Right?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
17. You're making the classic mistake ...
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 11:47 PM
Feb 2013

... that many pro-control / anti-RKBA advocates make concerning the NRA. It is often remarked that anti-control persons are repeating the NRA position ("NRA talking points" etc) when, in fact, the opposite is true. If the NRA took a pro-control position concerning civil liberties (as above) not true liberal civil libertarian could support them.

Liberal anti-control / pro civil liberties persons are in fact only supportive of the NRA position WHEN it correctly reflects their own views on our civil liberties.

So, it isn't a case of the NRA wagging the civil libertarians -- but, the NRA is being wagged by the civil libertarians.

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