Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumDC resident, shoots a pitbull that was mauling a child, now he faces gun charges for doing it...
Let me get this straight, the DC Police, let David Gregory, openly, and KNOWINGLY flaunt the law on TV, and he gets off scot free, a man stops 3 pitbulls from mauling an 11 year old to death, and HE faces prision?!
This simply proves that gun control laws, DO NOT, apply to the "elites" and DO APPLY to everyone else..
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/23/man-who-shot-dogs-biting-boy-could-face-charges/
The law broken by David Gregory...
(b) No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device
regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. For the purposes of this subsection, the term large
capacity ammunition feeding device means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a
capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
He got a pass for his "stunt"....Now lets see if the man that saved that child from a horrible death will......
But this is the world that many gun control advocates would be happy to see us all live in.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)that way we'd have a dead child and 3 live pitbulls.
elleng
(130,908 posts)this is how laws work; they have to be APPLIED in individual cases.
The guy should face gun charges, as should have Gregory, which he did, and decent judges and prosecutors should come up with reasonable results that we, society, approve.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)we both know that class has to do with everything, like Carl Rowan shooting skinny dipping teenagers with an illegal gun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Rowan#Gun_Control_Controversy
Do you seriously think that Rowan would have walked if he were not a WaPo pundit?
elleng
(130,908 posts)'Rowen was charged for firing a gun that he did not legally own. Rowan was arrested and tried. During the trial, he argued that he had the right to use whatever means necessary to protect himself and his family. . .
Rowan was tried but the jury was deadlocked; the judge declared a mistrial and he was never retried.'
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)the kids in the pool were no threat to him. If some redneck in a Kansas trailer park did and said the same thing, I seriously doubt you would have the same opinion.
elleng
(130,908 posts)That Carl Rowan isn't 'some redneck in a Kansas trailer?'
I am an attorney, and understand laws and something about the way they are enforced.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)classism and hypocrisy is bi partisan. We both know that. While gun control advocates are often, if not always, accuse even obvious examples of defense, of being "gun toting vigilantes" around here, I have the same right to have my doubts about Rowan. I frankly don't think he was seriously threatened, he should have stayed indoors and called the police.
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)If it is not, in this case, THAT WILL BE COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE..... Gregory got off scot free nary a charge for a "dog and pony" show, that man whom quick action saved a young child from even more grievous injury, possibly death should, even much more than David the MSM talking head, walk as well...
Selective enforcement of the law is PURE BULLSHIT.
elleng
(130,908 posts)by its very nature; HAS to be.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)They claim:
"The police report, which did not identify any of the people involved, said the boy suffered severe lacerations. The Washington Post, which first reported the details of the shooting, quoted the boys uncle as saying the boy was also shot in the foot."
Where is the Washington Post link? I can't seem to find anything that does not point to the Washington Times as the original source.
Everything else points to the WT.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)It says:
D.C. police said they are reviewing the incident and have left open the possibility that the neighbor could be charged with violating the Districts gun laws.
A police spokesman would not say whether the gun was legally registered. Even if it was, using it on a D.C. street is illegal. But David Benowitz, a defense lawyer who handles D.C. gun cases, said prosecuting such a case could be problematic because the attack appeared to have occurred near the shooters property line.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-boy-mauled-by-pit-bulls-has-surgery/2013/01/22/c4f52f1a-64e0-11e2-b84d-21c7b65985ee_story.html
This sounds like the usual bunch of bullshit sensationalism by the Washington Tines. They went to a lot of trouble to obfuscate the actual article in the Post.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Even Florida has that.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)There is no way this guy is going to jail.
The DA knows that, so they're not even going to try.
sarisataka
(18,655 posts)and gave a detailed description of the dogs. Let the experts handle it. He is lucky he did not kill 2 or 3 people or get caught in a 5 way crossfire with other armed people. One of those dogs could have grown up to cure cancer but he chose to be judge, jury and executioner. The child should have firmly said NO and walked away while carrying beans.
Gregory broke the law for a good purpose so he can go free. This gun has just been itching for the chance to kill. Too bad DC doesn't have the death penalty.
iiibbb
(1,448 posts)I wonder if enough people know about it.
jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)va mtn man: Gregory got off scot free nary a charge .. that man whom quick action saved a young child from even more grievous injury, possibly death should, even much more than David the MSM talking head, walk as well... Selective enforcement of the law is PURE BULLSHIT.
There's a bit of spin & misinfo from mtn man, it's hard to give him any credibility for what he posts anymore, especially when support comes from the rightwing trash newspaper of Wash DC, the Washington Times, substandard to the Wash Post.
To try to conflate dick gregory's demonstration of a magazine clip on tv, with actually owning one with ability to use it in an also owned firearm, is a typical rightwing propaganda ploy, & coming from a supposed democrat - mtn man - is pretty underhanded. Had gregory used the magazine in a firearm in DC, shooting dogs attacking a boy, mtn man would actually have an argument, rather than being a shill for the gun lobby as is now apparent.
Mtn man says it was the good sams 'quick action' which saved a child, tho he shot one dog & a cop later shot the other two which still attacked, & the boy was allegedly wounded in his foot by a bullet. Mtn man making a feew quick presumptions?
objectively citing Wash Times: D.C. police are investigating whether a man will face criminal charges for shooting a pit bull that was attacking a child in his neighborhood. The incident .. three pit bulls attacked an 11-yr boy as he rode his bicycle Northwest...
When the man, a neighbor, saw the boy being mauled by the dogs, he went inside his home and got a gun. The man killed one of the dogs. The gunfire attracted the attention of a police officer in the area .. The officer responded and shot the other two pit bulls as they continued to attack the boy.
.. The police report, which did not identify any of the people involved, said the boy suffered severe lacerations. The Washington Post, which first reported the details of the shooting, quoted the boys uncle as saying the boy was also shot in the foot.
.. the entire case, including whether the man legally owned the gun he used to kill the dog, is under investigation.
defense atty: The man could face a host of charges depending on the specifics of the case, including whether the gun used is a registered firearm that the man was legally permitted to own,.. Possession of an unregistered firearm or ammunition is punishable by up to one year in prison and a $1,000 fine, and determining whether the man legally possessed the gun used will likely have greater bearing on the way the case is handled..
Also to be taken into consideration is whether the man was within his property line when he fired the weapon a small but significant distinction.. it could mean the difference in whether he could be charged with carrying a pistol without a license.
If the boy getting shot in the foot turns out to be true (per his uncle), and depending on whether the good sam or the cop did it, also adds to what kind of charges to be filed. They're both likely protected under the good sam law, but the cops handgun was certainly kosher.
Callisto32
(2,997 posts)Does it hurt inside your head?
Callisto32
(2,997 posts)Apparently bullshit circus stunts are compelling reasons to own these things, but protecting yourself isn't.
Fucking shameful.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)TupperHappy
(166 posts)"Gun control for thee, but not for me."
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HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)while she was gardening in her yard. Gun didn't save her. Police didn't save her. Her own German Sheppard heard her screams, jumped out a window, and attacked the Pit Bull. Save by a DOG. Another neighbor called the cops, grabbed a shovel, and beat the Pit Bull away from her dog.
BTW, this neighbor was an former Marine who was also a hunter and HAD guns in his home. No TIME to get his guns and the shovel was right there outside. Nobody was killed, including the dogs.
You won't hear real life stores like this from the NRA, or gun advocates.
SQUEE
(1,315 posts)No guns available in a reasonable time line.. So the Marine adapted, improvised and overcame. So, if I had a weapon close at hand, I should not use it but instead, wait for Rin-Tin-Tin and head to the tool shed instead of putting down the threat? I am unclear of what you are trying to say.
Of course the NRA didn't cover it, too busy luring away husbands using bikini girls with machine guns..
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)And what I said to my husband, who USED to have a gun in every room of the house(except bathroom) for "protection","What are you going to do if somebody breaks in when you are on the JOHN, or heaven forbid, in the SHOWER?" Dumb.
My point is that you will never hear anything from the NRA about people who defended themselves WITHOUT guns. Even the media doesn't publize these either.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)a girl walking on a sidewalk in Minneapolis was attacked by a pit bull. The mailman used his pepper spray to drive off the dog. He got right in the dog's face and let him have it. To the best of my knowledge, the NRA didn't mention this story either. What was your point again?
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)they seem to be the dog equivalent to AK-47s or Glocks
http://blogs.denverpost.com/fetch/2010/07/18/the-media-takes-its-lumps-over-reporting-about-pit-bulls/1387/
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)said it was and I trust they know their breeds. I have nothing against pit bulls, but this crazy guy "trained" (beat it) it to be an attack dog for protection. Problem is that it was kept loose in the yard, and not trained to not jump the fence onto somebody elses property. I suppose if it's owner had been home at the time, both he and his dog could have been shot, right?
Rights end when the rights of others begin; whether guns, or dogs. No right is absolute.