You can't legally hunt with this - nor can it be used for competitive skeet shooting

[jpak]

It serves no purpose but to kill lots of humans - very quickly.

It should be banned.

yup

[cantbeserious]

1. Agreed - Well Said

eom

[rrneck]

2. Ooohhhhhh. Gun porn.

Your forbidden passion. Dirty, dirty gun porn. I won't tell.

[jpak]

3. Just playing along - you like it don't you

[rrneck]

4. You're just playing.

Kids will do that.

[formercia]

10. Sticky Forend

is the result.

[rrneck]

45. Forend? Is that the thing that goes up? nt

[iiibbb]

5. You can hunt with it.

http://www.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8006

http://gfp.sd.gov/hunting/docs/huntinghandbook.pdf

No legal capacity limit on pheasants.

[Kaleva]

50. Can't hunt with it in Michigan.

[ShadyBill]

6. Can't legally hunt or shoot skeet.........

And your point?

[iiibbb]

7. OP is wrong... the gun is legal to hunt with in many states -- except for migratory birds (3 rounds)

[DonP]

8. How dare you sir!

Don't you know that inserting actual, provable facts into another pointless immature rant is just more NRA Talking Points?

[formercia]

9. The Facts, Sir, are Irrelevant.

You would never get a Woodcock with that Beast. Too heavy, That's why I like a light Double for Hunting. Slug in one Barrel, Shot in the other.

What else could you use a Street-Sweeper for?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

11. That is not a Street Sweeper, though it is its functional equivalent

The Street Sweeper was a large scale revolver. That magazine is removable

[iiibbb]

12. I would put a standard semi-auto shotgun with a quiver of speedloaders up against that

... I saw someone use that pairing at a IPSC match and it was pretty amazing.... surely faster.


Although truly, not many serious hunters would bother with it... but that doesn't negate the fact that the OP posted a falsehood meant to cause fear.

[Straw Man]

26. Correct me if I'm wrong, ...

... but wouldn't you be able to legally hunt migratory birds with it if you used a three-round magazine and didn't have a larger magazine in your possession while in the field?

[iiibbb]

28. That is true, or you could modify the existing magazines in such a manner

that they only held 3 rounds and could not be easily returned to their regular operation.

And I suspect you could only have one magazine.

I wouldn't want to push my luck leaving myself to the subjective interpretation by a game warden in the field.

[Xithras]

30. You're right. I was about to point that out.

The three round limit merely means that the firearm can't have the capability of carrying more than 3 rounds while you're hunting. I used to regularly hunt with shotguns capable of carrying more than 3 shells. You simply had to dowel the tube to make sure that it was limited to 3 in the field.

I've never owned a Saiga 12, but I know that there are companies that make cheap magazine inserts for them to make them legal for hunters in all 50 states. I wouldn't be surprised if there were companies that simply made 3 shell magazines for them as well.

[invader zim]

13. I'm not much into gun porn

But that does look pretty neat. sort of like a rem 870 but only cooler...zim

[DLine]

14. I have definitely shot skeet with a Saiga 12 before...

I couldn't care less about "competitive skeet shooting". Thats a fun gun to shoot down on the farm.

[jpak]

15. You can have lots "fun down on the farm" without one

yup

[LibertyFox]

18. You can still engage in speech without your computer. Yup.

[Bay Boy]

40. Jpak doesn't have a regular computer he has an 'assault' computer...

...or maybe it's an 'insult' computer.

[aikoaiko]

16. Don't forget 3-gun competitions

Its good for 3guns.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

17. re: "...can't legally hunt with this..."

AND?????

You can't hunt with one these either:


or one of these:

[iiibbb]

20. Irrelevant since the OP is posting a false statement.

Technically, you can hunt with it. It's perfectly legal even if no serious hunter would probably pick something like that.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

21. That was my...

...rather head-cold/medication affected reasoning and point.

[iiibbb]

23. I wanted to emphasize that the OP is factually wrong

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

24. I would agree :) n/t

[friendly_iconoclast]

43. Factual accuracy is strictly optional for gun control advocates.

[sylvi]

44. Facts

Facts distract from the gun control argument, "We gotta do...SUMTHIN'!!!"

[oneshooter]

46. However the question remains"When has he ever been"factually correct"?

[Taitertots]

19. The saiga 12 is just as effective as any shotgun for hunting

I know several people that have successfully used them to hunt deer and game birds.

[GreenStormCloud]

22. What does hunting have to do with it?

I don't have to demonstrate a need for it. All I have to do is have the money to buy and the desire. You don't like freedom very much do you?

BTW - I would like to buy one of those in .410 bore with a 20 round magazine, three inch chamber. Load it with 000 buckshot (five balls of .35 caliber) and it would great for my wife to use for home defense.

[darkangel218]

27. +1

[raidert05]

25. man....

that thing sure is scary looking...

[Travis_0004]

29. The second admendment says nothing about hunting

And as others have said, that gun would work for 3 gun competitions, and other shooting sports, so there are plenty of legitimate uses for it.

[jpak]

31. The standard gun nut deflection

and dumb

yup

[ileus]

32. Remove the dumb drum and there's no reason you couldn't hunt with it.

Then come home and insert the drum and use it as a home defense firearm.

Or

Take it out and try and shoot skeet down on the farm if you want.

Or

Just shoot melons with it.

Or

Just keep it because it's your right.

[mokawanis]

33. We should ban it now

and make possession of it a felony. It's a machine for murder.

[holdencaufield]

35. No ...

... THIS is a machine for murder ...






... Mostly

[mokawanis]

36. Is that a massage table?

I just ordered two!

I keep forgetting machine guns are made for target practice, not for shooting people.

[holdencaufield]

37. Get to know your pop culture ...

... that is "The Machine" -- from "Princess Bride"

As for the awesome gun in the OP -- not a machine gun at all -- it's semi-automatic.

[mokawanis]

38. Didn't see Princess Bride

but I like your username, and I really like the idea of banning machine guns and semi-automatics.

[holdencaufield]

39. You wouldn't ...

... if you saw "Princess Bride"

[holdencaufield]

34. Awesome!

I just ordered two!

[Bay Boy]

41. Hey Jpak! Since it's been proven that this gun can be used for hunting purposes...

...does that mean it's on your 'approved' list for gunowners?

[OakCliffDem]

42. I like the paint on a Stoeger P-350 better

The Stoeger P-350 pump action shotgun is a reliable hunting gun designed to fire any 12-gauge ammunition, from light target loads to 3-1/2” magnum.

http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger-p350-pump.php

[holdencaufield]

47. I'm still partial to my ...

[ileus]

49. It of course could also be used as a life saving device.

If used properly for self defense.

Remember the three types of firearms. Self defense, Hunting, Target/Competition

When used properly none were designed to take human life.

[liberal N proud]

51. If you are using this for hunting, you are not a hunter...

You are a killer.

[gejohnston]

53. change magazines,

it is just another shotgun like this one
http://www.remington.com/products/archived/shotguns/autoloading/model-11-87.aspx

[Remmah2]

52. Theater of the absurd.

Scene 416.

SSDD