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madokie

(51,076 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 04:26 AM Mar 2013

Waiting for this mini-split heat pump to arrive

http://www.breezzone.com/ductless-mini-split-air-conditioner-heat-pump-18000/283-ductless-mini-split-senville-18000-btu-air-conditioner-heat-pump-inverter-19-seer-13ft-kit.html

The part of the house that we use on a daily basis is a tad less than 900 sq ft so we just purchased this mini-split heat pump for our heat and air going into the future. We heat using a Harman Advance pellet stove now and will keep it for when the weather turns off real cold but for I'd say 90% of our winter heating this unit will take care of our needs.
I'll do the installation myself with my brother the HVAC man doing the connection, vacuuming etc. so our warranty will be valid.


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Waiting for this mini-split heat pump to arrive (Original Post) madokie Mar 2013 OP
Very cool. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #1
This one is good down to 5 degrees F. madokie Mar 2013 #2
Is the operating temp the same as the efficiency temp? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #3
I understand it to mean that the efficiency is good down to 5 degrees madokie Mar 2013 #4
I just got a call from the trucking company madokie Mar 2013 #5
Cool. Thanks! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #6
ebay madokie Mar 2013 #7
Just got it installed and its working now madokie Apr 2013 #8
Cool! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2013 #9
Here is what I did and what I let the installer do madokie Apr 2013 #10

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
1. Very cool.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 10:07 AM
Mar 2013

I have a 13 year old furnace and an A/C unit that's gotta be 20 plus years old.

I'm thinking of replacing the ac with a mini split and keeping the furnace as back up for super cold days.

I forget. What is the low temp that they become inefficient?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. This one is good down to 5 degrees F.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 10:15 AM
Mar 2013

We very seldom see temperatures that low. In fact its been a few years since its been that cold here.
I think we'll still have to use our pellet stove from time to time. This unit uses 1500 watts total at its max so that would figure out to a tad less that 3 dollars a day at the coldest it will work in. I'd say our medium temperature here is somewhere around 40 degrees so it should save us quiet a few bucks a season.
we pay 9 cents a KWH here

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
3. Is the operating temp the same as the efficiency temp?
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 10:27 AM
Mar 2013

I seem to remember reading something about not being efficient below some number in the teens. Which would still be OK for me even in Chicago.

Let me know how it goes. I figure I can do most of the work myself and maybe find an HVAC person to do the purge etc.

My understanding is they come loaded with refrigerant??

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. I understand it to mean that the efficiency is good down to 5 degrees
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 10:51 AM
Mar 2013

It draws 1500 watts max so that indicates that it will be a much more efficient unit than what we're using which is very good or propane or electric our other two options

I figure it will take me a week to install it as I've got to remove our air conditioner from the the wall and patch it because where it is now is where I'll put the inside unit. I'll try to remember to let you know how it's working here in a couple three weeks.
The last thing I want to do is send anyone down the wrong path.
I have a friend who installed one last fall and he's heating the same amount of floor space as I, I don't think his house has as much insulation as we do. So far his electric bill has gone up 32 bucks a month from what it was last season and that was for the month of December which was the coldest month we've had that he's gotten a bill for. This last month I think has been somewhat colder than December was though. He was using 500 plus gallons of propane per winter and not keeping his house as warm as he is now. 68 on propane, 73 on the mini split.
I know another person who changed their central air unit to a heat pump and its cut their heating bill by a half. Where they live they have natural gas which is a lot cheaper to use that either propane or electric is.
Its hard to compare one winter to the next as the weather changes but last winter around here was real close to what we're seeing this winter.
Our pellet stove is pretty efficient and this winter we'll spend somewhere close to 500 bucks to heat with so if this unit saves us a couple hundred bucks or so a year it will have paid for itself by the time my wife retires. I'm already there on fixed income. I'll be 65 thursday of this week.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
5. I just got a call from the trucking company
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:10 PM
Mar 2013

and I should have my heat pump thursday after noon, march 28
Hopefully I'll get in installed next week and I'll let you know what you asked me then.
One of my brothers is a HVAC man so I've got that covered.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
8. Just got it installed and its working now
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 07:31 PM
Apr 2013

haven't got an invoice yet to know what it cost to hook up but I'm thinking that its going to be somewhere between 150 and 200 bucks for installation.
won't know how well it works for another day or so as its like spring weather out today.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
9. Cool!
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 07:40 PM
Apr 2013

That's cheap for the install.

Was that just for the purge and hook up?

I'm thinking I can do the electrical, placement and wall unit mounting. I'll just need someone to do the purge etc. piece.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. Here is what I did and what I let the installer do
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:19 PM
Apr 2013

I put the electric box on the out side wall, I put the bracket for the inside unit to hang on and I also put the piping and electric for the inside unit, plus the drain hose through the wall. I let the installer hang the inside unit and connect the piping and drain hose and connect the electric cable between the two pieces.

It is a pretty simple install that you can do yourself except for pulling the vacuum to dry the lines. If you have a vacuum pump and gauges I suspect you can do that too. After the install the installer turned it on cool and set the thermostat at 62, I had the windows open as I forgot to shut down the pellet stove before they got here and it was nice and warm in here and knowing that most people don't care to work in a hot place I opened the house up for them. it got to 70 degrees outside today. Anyway it brought the house down to 66 degrees with the windows open in about 20 minutes then we closed the windows, outside by then it had dropped to 65 degrees and then set the unit to auto and let it warm the house back up. Set the thermostat at 72 and in about 20 maybe 30 minutes it had the house back up to 73 and holding it there. How quiet it is is the first thing we noticed.
Its going to take a bit to get how it operates down. Right now we just set it to auto and 72 and will let the unit take care of the rest.

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