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Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 09:33 PM Jan 2015

Beans

I've posted about beans before. Around my home they are something of a staple as I make them a few times per month.

I thought I might list a few tips on how I get the most out of them.

To avoid excessive flatulence, there's two methods you can use. You can bring the beans to a boil with about 2 qts of water per lb of beans in a stock pot, shut off the heat and let them soak for a few hours, then drain off the water and cook normally. This releases much of the indigestible sugars which cause flatulence. Unfortunately this method also drains off many of the vitamins and flavor also, so I don't use this method. What I do instead is cook the beans low and slow which break down the indigestible sugars. More on this in the next paragraph.

As far as beans that take a while to cook, like pinto and kidney beans, I cook them in my crock pot for around 8 hours. I have a temperature controller that I set to 190F and forget about it. Some higher end crock pots have a built in temperature controller. If you don't want to go to the expense of one of those options, there are different methods you can try. You can adjust the settings and volume on a traditional crock pot, or you can use a dutch oven lidded inside your oven. Both of those methods are going to require some experimentation. Ideally you want a temperature between 180-200F, and the closer you are to those extremes the more or less time it's going to take. I've found that 190F and 8 hours is pretty reliable. Stovetop methods are probably going to be very difficult to maintain a constant temperature. If you go with the low and slow method, stirring isn't needed and generally lowers the temperature pretty quickly. It's best to just let it stew as it can take a while to restore your target temperature which is just going to add to the cooking time. The low and slow method also provides for a different texture compared to beans that are boiled or simmered. The beans tend to stay intact with a creamy texture throughout, instead of beans which are mostly falling apart.

Halfway through the cook I take about 1/4 of the beans out with about twice that much stock and run it through my blender. You can also just mash them up with a fork or a potato masher, but I've found the blender works best. This step is optional, and produces a richer stock.

I keep my seasonings pretty simple. The low and slow method actually produces a lot of flavor from the beans themselves. I pretty much always add 1 tsp of salt per lb of beans, which suits my tastes. I add a bay leaf or two and 1/4 tsp black or red pepper. I like to throw one or two fresh peppers in the mix. I usually flavor pinto beans with pork such as a couple of strips of smoked bacon or a smoked ham hock, or some leftover ham from my smoker which I like to keep on hand in the freezer. If you want to go vegan or vegetarian there's all sorts of options. Liquid smoke works pretty well as does Kitchen Bouquet. For 1 lb of beans it generally takes about 2 qts of liquid. For some of the water you can substitute stock, which I do quite often, or you can use beer, which is one of my favorites. Dark beers like a porter or Guinness work well as do pale ales. I don't like beers that are very hoppy. I usually use Shiner, because that's one I almost always have on hand.

For garnish I top with chopped scallions and/or cilantro. I put a bottle of Trappey's peppers and a Tabasco style hot sauce on the table. Naturally rice goes great with red beans.

For pinto beans, naturally you must have cornbread to go with it. I use a few different recipes, but probably the one I use most often is the one from King Arthur flour. It's simple, works very well, and I always have all the ingredients. I really like their recipe because you can convert to weight for the ingredients online. This makes it super simple if you have a kitchen scale. I always bake in my 9" cast iron skillet, preheated along with the oven.
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/cornbread-recipe




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Kali

(55,025 posts)
1. the best way to deal with flatulence is to eat beans regularly
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jan 2015

I have never soaked beans in my life. I have intended to, in order to see if it would be worth doing for some reason or other, but never seem to remember to actually do it.

I pick and rinse a few inches of beans in the stock pot, fill with water, add a few chopped bacon slices or salt pork or a ham bone, a rough chopped onion and some garlic then cook on super low (gas, stove top) until they are done. then add salt.

we do at least a pot a week - pintos mostly. cornbread is good, but corn tortillas baked in the oven with a little pile of cheese and a sprinkle of salt is my favorite. I can eat an ungodly number of them with a couple bowls of "soup beans."

after things thicken up from the various reheatings, we usually do refries (bacon grease!) and have tostadas and more burritos.

japple

(9,842 posts)
2. Yes!! With tortillas. I love corn tortillas fried in a little bit of coconut or veg. oil on a
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 08:22 AM
Jan 2015

cast iron griddle, then put in mashed beans, grilled peppers & onions and a sprinkle of cheese. Sometimes I fold a tortilla with shredded grilled chicken and pico. Yum yum.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
3. You can use epazote leaves to prevent gas also.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:33 AM
Jan 2015

I don't have any experience with it. I saw a chef use it on Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
4. Bean-o actually works quite well along with cheaper alternatives
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:13 PM
Jan 2015

All they do is supply the enzyme needed to digest oligosaccharides, which your body can't produce. Not all legumes are high in oligosaccharides so they don't inherently cause flatulence, but most are high in fiber which can cause problems if you aren't used to a high fiber diet.

However, I've found that the low and slow method not only solves the flatulence problem, it's also the tastiest cooking method. So there's good reason to use it.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
5. Also for vegans, there is kombu, dulse, and powdered dried mushrooms.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:18 PM
Jan 2015

The kombu and dulse, will "melt" into the broth and all will had a depth of flavor that most associate with meat.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. Since moving to Mexico, I have discovered the absolute simplicity of beans.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:29 PM
Jan 2015

1 pound of dried beans (black or pinto), and ½ large onion (left whole)
Cover with at least 3 inches of water
Bring to boil and cook at a rapid simmer, partly covered, until soft (about 1 ½ hours)
Add 1 T salt and some epazote and cook for another 15 minutes, or until they are falling apart.
Remove onion and epazote and then do whatever you like to them - just like they are or puree, refry, soup, whatever

Oh, and I always refry in lard

japple

(9,842 posts)
8. I do the same, although I ususally put a couple bay leaves in just because
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 06:28 PM
Jan 2015

I love that "herbal" flavor. I usually use dried epazote from a Hispanic grocery. Some of the Hispanic grocers sell "fresh" thyme, but I think epazote is a variety of oregano.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. Epazote is some very unusual stuff.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 06:43 PM
Jan 2015

It looks more like bay, but has a taste like nothing else.

The dish that makes me think of it the most is tortilla soup.

japple

(9,842 posts)
10. I grow herbs and usually have huge amounts of Greek oregano during the
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 06:53 PM
Jan 2015

summer months. I'm going to hunt for some epazote plants.

I always see thyme in little ziploc bags at the local Hispanic grocers. I wonder if that is what they use to flavor their beans.

Edit: After reading this from wikipedia search for epazote, I am def. going to try to grow this plant in the spring.

Epazote is used as a leaf vegetable, an herb and an herbal tea for its pungent flavor. Raw, it has a resinous, medicinal pungency, similar to anise, fennel, or even tarragon, but stronger. Epazote's fragrance is strong but difficult to describe. A common analogy is to turpentine or creosote. It has also been compared to citrus, savory, or mint.

Although it is traditionally used with black beans for flavor and its carminative properties (less gas), it is also sometimes used to flavor other traditional Mexican dishes as well: it can be used to season quesadillas and sopes (especially those containing huitlacoche), soups, mole de olla, tamales with cheese and chile, chilaquiles, eggs and potatoes and enchiladas.

It is often used as an herb for white fried rice and an important ingredient for making the green salsa for chilaquiles.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
11. Growing epazote would be a great idea.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 06:58 PM
Jan 2015

You don't need much at a time and it goes bad pretty quickly once picked. I haven't seen much thyme down here, but mexican oregano is used a lot.

I think if you make your beans simple, you can jazz them up however you like! I like mine refried with cheese.



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