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elleng

(131,063 posts)
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 03:27 PM Dec 2014

Pot Pie, Redefined? Chefs Start to Experiment With Cannabis.

BOULDER, Colo. — Recreational marijuana is both illegal and controversial in most of the country, and its relationship to food does not rise much above a joke about brownies or a stoner chef’s late-night pork belly poutine.

But cooking with cannabis is emerging as a legitimate and very lucrative culinary pursuit.

In Colorado, which has issued more than 160 edible marijuana licenses, skilled line cooks are leaving respected restaurants to take more lucrative jobs infusing cannabis into food and drinks. In Washington, one of four states that allow recreational marijuana sales, a large cannabis bakery dedicated to affluent customers with good palates will soon open in Seattle.

Major New York publishing houses and noted cookbook authors are pondering marijuana projects, and chefs on both coasts and in food-forward countries like Denmark have been staging underground meals with modern twists like compressed watermelon, smoked cheese and marijuana-oil vinaigrette.

“It really won’t be long until it becomes part of haute cuisine and part of respectable culinary culture, instead of just an illegal doobie in the backyard,” said Ken Albala, director of the food studies program at the University of the Pacific in San Francisco.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/29/us/pot-pie-redefined-chefs-start-to-experiment-with-cannabis.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
1. Lol, well I guess so.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 03:37 PM
Dec 2014

Honestly, I don't think it tastes all that good. Edibles can be a good idea as a delivery system, but haute cuisine?

elleng

(131,063 posts)
3. Right!
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 03:43 PM
Dec 2014

'Cooks who work with cannabis are apt to compare it to cooking with wine or spirits. But opponents counter that a bottle of young red wine brings an important flavor component to a dish like beef bourguignon. In cannabis cookery, the point is usually to mask the taste.

“From my very limited experience with edibles, the flavor is pretty awful,” said Grant Achatz, the Chicago chef who made his reputation with experimental cooking.

Ms. Parks, who only rarely uses cannabis and began cooking with it to help a friend with cancer, argues that marijuana can be delicious.

“There are dozens of strains and some might smell like lemon grass or strawberry or sage or wheatgrass,” she said. Different strains also offer different highs. A well-placed dose of cannabis might provide just enough elevation in an appetizer or a calming finish to meal that alcohol could become less interesting.

“A lot of people could argue that a lot of alcohol doesn’t taste good, either,” said Ms. Reichl. “So maybe you won’t need to drink wine with your dinner. It could be very bad for the wine industry.”'

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. They all smell a lot like skunk.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 03:50 PM
Dec 2014

And as any cook knows, taste is mostly about the smell.

Given the choice with my dinner, I will take wine.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
5. It has a lot to do with technique - you usually won't taste it in mine. For example, in making
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:12 PM
Dec 2014

butter to add to something, I bake the herb to activate it, then infuse in in a water/butter mixture, removing the water and refilling it until it is clean to remove the chlorophyll. The taste of what is left won't rise above the homemade caramel in my brownies/

For flour to make pizzas I use a water cure, and a bit of orange juice to balance not only the light weed taste that might be left, but the slightly bitter taste of the whole wheat - another flavor many people don't care for without other components.

The biggest problem is people thinking you can cook with the plant and not address those things, just add it to food. That's a bit like adding lawn grass, and about as effective, especially if they don't "decarb" it first.

Oh yeah - and when I get my Empanadas finished, they won't taste like that either.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. Agree, I think the key is not being able to taste it.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:39 PM
Dec 2014

That's why the article is pretty funny. It's just not a flavor I'm going to seek.

Sounds like you really have it down and I hope you have created a good business!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. I haven't worked with it, but geez, the vaping stuff, especially if it was a solid, lasts
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:18 AM
Dec 2014

a long time, is really concentrated.

If it has been heated it may be already decarbed, so could be added to peanut butter on a cracker and tested.

Carefully. I mean by that give it awhile between doses. It could take a half hour to an hour or more to feel it, far different from vaping, and it is easy for a vaper or smoker to eat too much (if they are not used to edibles) and wind up sick or sleeping for a day or so and feeling crappy. (Orange juice sometimes helps with that, btw).

If it hasn't been decarbed, putting some in some expressed coconut oil (The kind without the flavor) and heating it in a double boiler for 8 hours, or a crock pot (those will do 240-250 on low - be careful) for perhaps 4-6.

If you add a little water while it is cooking, when you finish you can let the bowl solidify, then poke a hole and let the water underneath run out. What is left is your reward.

It would be worth experimenting with I think.

Let me know what you do.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. Note to self, write a pot cookbook quickly and submit to publishers.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 03:42 PM
Dec 2014

Not that I know how to cook with pot, but the first person with a book out there can probably get away with simply adding x amount of pot to various regular recipes and still sell books

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
9. not quite. it has to be delivered with fat.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 04:20 PM
Jan 2015

To prepare weed for eating it has to be heated in some way. It won't work if the weed is eaten without preparation, because the digestive system is unable to digest THC (the stuff that gets you stoned) directly. When cooking with weed, it is very important to use fat (oil, butter, milk) because THC is fat soluble and not water soluble. It is therefore impossible to get high from pot tea, for example, without adding some milk.

From: http://www.thestonerscookbook.com/how_to_cook_with_weed.php#cook

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
10. Ah, see, I'm already too late anyway.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:45 PM
Jan 2015

People already are putting cookbooks out there And doing it correctly, which I wouldn't have.

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