Cooking & Baking
Related: About this forumwhat's the deal with peppers, onions, sausages?
Is that a New Jersey thing? I can honestly say that I have never had that dish, and the only place I have seen it on a menu is the state fair. But I see it represented here quite often, it seems.
I don't know if my stomach could handle it. Does it bite back?
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)It has never bitten me back. I use hot Italian sausage. You could just as easily use mild or sweet Italian sausage. Maybe even try it with brats.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Especially at farmer's markets and pizza joints. Sausage sandwich (on a long roll) with fried peppers and fried onions and maybe some tomato sauce. I don't eat pork much anymore but I quite enjoyed those sammiches back in the day.
Sedona
(3,769 posts)for better or worse. Slice it all up in a big frying pan with some olive oil, garlic, and mushrooms and serve with Italian bread or pasta.
Mix the left overs with scrambled eggs for breakfast the next day.
WARNING: making a habit of this will definitely put on the poundage.
On edit: Was served at baseball games in Phoenix during my former married life, I have no idea if it still is.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)Johnsonville makes an okay version. Al Fresco brand, if you can get it in your area, is really good. Their sun-dried tomato and cheese chicken sausage is excellent, too. I love them with roasted or fried peppers, on a sandwich or not.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Phentex
(16,334 posts)with sausage, eggs, chicken, pasta, beef stir fry, etc.
I guess I have the double whammy: NJ Italian.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,750 posts)On edit: And I'm not Italian.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)One skiller dinner, cooks up fast, is cheap and filling. You can sprinkle shredded cheddar over the top of it in the skillet, let it melt ( off burner, with a lid on) for 3 minutes.
How hot the peppers are depends on which kind you use.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Hotler
(11,445 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Cold, with meats and cheeses.
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)Grinders are hot and usually toasted ....You see these north of New Haven CT pretty much. You'd never ask for a Grinder in NY or NJ
Sub sandwiches are either hot or cold and usually on crusty Italian Bread. They may or may not include lettuce, tomato, and other veg. Most cold subs are made with Olive oil and Vinegar. The Bread on the hot subs is usually not toasted which allows greater absorption of red sauce into the soft insides of the bread.
Hoagies are a PA thing. They are similar to a Sub but the bread is far softer. A perfect cheesesteak hoagie would be a cheese steak with lettuce, tomato, hot peppers and mayo. If you order a Cheesesteak from Gino's or Pat's steak you won't get a hoagie unless you ask for one.
As someone who has lived all over the East Coast that's how I call it....YMMV
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Georgetown, Bal-mer, Seven Corners, etc.
And I think the term "hoagie" is more universal that Pennsylvania.
Yep...MMV.
Stinky The Clown
(67,818 posts)Vinine, Paulie, Tony, Guido, and Sally were coming over. They all like that. We had it on grinder rolls with some red wine of indeterminate vintage and provenance.
Actually, I really did make it on Wednesday. The rest is made up. Maybe.
Tab
(11,093 posts)Or was she already there?
elleng
(131,118 posts)Lidia and her daughter made it today on PBS, and its one of my family's favorites!
grasswire
(50,130 posts)But I didn't grow up Italian or live in a predominantly Italian-American area. I doubt that my parents or grandparents ever tasted italian sausage. My mother's family was WASP-y New England; my father's family was WASP-y New England with a detour to Canada for a few generations. And in my generation, the greatest influence is Pacific Northwest, and Napa style. Italian on this coast is more likely to be panzanella or ravioli or primavera or puttanesca. Artisanal cheeses and sustainable products.
So there's the cultural difference vis a vis this dish.
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)As an east to west transplant it took a while for me to get use to the different Italian/American traditions. When we moved to Seattle from NY I couldn't get over the fact that I couldn't get a veal parm sandwich or for that matter a decent sausage. I still lament the fact I can't get a decent Italian sub sandwich unless I spend a fortune for Boars Head meats...Still it often isn't cut properly out here. Thank goodness I can get decent pizza now even though I have to go to Everett or Clearview.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I've been wanting to go there.
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)I hear the lines can be long. I don't get down that way often. I don't eat meat that much anymore but some days I just pine for rare deli roast beef on a "real" Kaiser roll. Have you ever been to PFI in Sodo...They are a hidden treasure for Italian supplies. Great cheeses and good cold cuts but they don't slice meats fresh for you...
http://www.bigjohnspfiseattle.com/
Worth a special trip.
Tab
(11,093 posts)although due to the Italian immigrant population, I can see why it'd be popular.
But it's f*ckin' yum. That's why.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)and every pizzeria or sandwich joint in the tri-state area that makes hot sandwiches has a variation of sausage&peppers.
Joisey probably took it the furthest, though, and Dee's Italian Hot Dogs has one of the more interesting variations-- an Italian Chicago hot dog with sausage, peppers, onions, maybe cheese and some other stuff like olives or a pickle and some romaine lettuce in a wedge of Italian round bread. Some guys made it in a pita.
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)Deep fried dogs----If you are gonna go this is the way.....
http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=1362
No peppers and onions on the dog....But why even pretend to be healthy.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)some training sessions of Rte 3 and I just had to make a stop there for lunch. Took a couple of people with me, and they agreed if you're gonna go, it should be with a ripper and mustard relish.
I tried the "cremated" years ago and they looked at me funny-- "are you sure?" Well, if I wasn't before, that made me sure.
But never again. To call it an "acquired taste" is to lose 90% of the experience. I don't know what they do with them now, but the one I had was crispy, crumbly and tasteless all the way through.
But rippers-- the hot dog sublime!
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)Head on over to North Arlington to the Arlington Diner. It's right on River Road and the Belleville turnpike. It's typical Jersey Diner food but they make THE BEST Cheesecake bar none. I grew up around there and know all the spots...Well at least the ones that are still there... The Cheesecake there is the finest in the NY/NJ area. They do all their baking on site and I don't know what the heck they do ....but it's AMAZING. Everytime anyone from home heads out this way they know what to bring me....
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)are yet another thing Joisey is noted for-- when I lived in Elizabeth, five of them were within walking distance. I've long suspected that the Greek economy could have been saved if a small percentage of the gross were sent back there. That is where the money came form...
"Baked on premises" is interesting. It usually doesn't pay to hire a baker so there are itinerant bakers who make the rounds at night doing the baking. Each diner provides the kitchen and supplies and tells the baker what to make, sometimes giving him their own recipes.
pinto
(106,886 posts)They brown Italian sausages (hot and sweet) in the morning. Saute the peppers and onions with olive oil till just soft and browned well on the outside. All are laid in a big pan over a steamer. Some water and lots of paprika. Simmered low and slow. Sliced lengthwise, the sausage and the pepper 'n onions are served on a toasted Italian roll.
Add ons are available, but usually folks have the basic. And folks in the know ask for a scrape off the bottom of the pan for the roll. That's where the tasty bits are...
At the beach they're served from a store front booth. In Boston from carts. Just the smell says summer.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)It's a staple here in PA along with cheese steaks. They're sloppy, oily and delicious.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Does it bite back? If you do it right.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)one occasion when we lived in NY for a time.
Perhaps THAT is what started the long term decline in our relationship.
That's all I'm going to say, other than that it was the sausage I disliked and not the peppers and onions.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I had never seen anything like it. I told her I was allergic to it. Don't like even the smell of it to this day. She was from Kansas farm people, with a Chicago influence later.
pinto
(106,886 posts)But love other sausages. Go figure. I suppose there's some spice included that's a turn off for me.
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)I don't know if it's the blood or what but just remembering the smell of my mother cooking Kishka makes me gag a little
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)i have no memory of how i first became aware of the dish, but it seems so natural to me.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)great on roll or pasta and I've even had an Asian variant using peppers, onions, and either Chinese or Hmong sausage- saute the stuff and then add a bit of oyster sauce and soy sauce at the end and serve over rice it's really good
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)It is one of those 'low and slow' dinners, or something you can throw together quickly on a higher heat. It is sumptuous sometimes.