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Related: About this forumWheat: 200 Clinically Confirmed Reasons Not To Eat It
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/200-clinically-confirmed-reasons-not-eat-wheat?utm_source=www.GreenMedInfo.com&utm_campaign=509932c42c-Greenmedinfo&utm_medium=email(...)
You will also find, below the listed diseases, a "pharmacological actions" field set which lists 20 distinct ways in which wheat harms the body, e.g. nerve-damaging (neurotoxic), immune-damaging (immunoreactive), inflammatory, etc.
At present, the conventional medical establishment only identifies a handful of disorders likely to be caused by wheat consumption, such as:
Wheat Allergy
Celiac Disease
Dermatitis Herpetiformis
Exercise-Induced Wheat Anaphylaxis
These conditions, however, are but the tip of a massive "celiac" iceberg. In a previous essay, The Dark Side of Wheat, we discussed the problem from a more philosophical perspective. There is now, however, a huge dataset firmly establishing the likelihood that wheat intolerance, or better yet, wheat toxicity, is a universal, human species-specific problem, occurring only in differing degrees, and mostly sub-clinically, at least through the optic of conventional screenings and technologies.
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DavidL
(384 posts)a requirement that I sign up for a newsletter before I can read the article.
I'd like to have Western civilization look at the diet of the last 3000 years, where wheat was as much of a mainstay in daily food consumption as any other staple.
Avoiding gluten because of sensitivity or celiac disease in the United States was nearly unheard of 50 years ago, yet today it's de rigueur. Is the disease on the rise, or is it just another pop food fixation?
http://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eating/stories/gluten-free-food-profusion-fad-or-epidemic
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)HuffPo is the worst offender, ime.
What this article does is list the MEDICAL RESEARCH that has been done in this field.
Here's a partial ...
Name Cumulative Knowledge Article Count Focus Articles
Celiac Disease 1395 150 focus
Wheat Intolerance 402 29 focus
Gluten Sensitivity 380 35 focus
Gluten Intolerance 336 27 focus
Autoimmune Diseases 136 12 focus
Schizophrenia 111 7 focus
Food Allergies: Wheat 106 11 focus
Food Allergies 97 10 focus
Psoriasis 82 5 focus
Down Syndrome 80 5 focus
Diabetes Mellitus: Type 1 73 12 focus
Irritable Bowel Syndrome 71 4 focus
Diabetes Mellitus: Type 1: Prevention 70 8 focus
Celiac Disease: Diagnostic Considerations 63
progressoid
(49,991 posts)I clicked on Carpel Tunnel Syndrome and this was their "connection" to wheat:
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/neurological-symptoms-occur-6-10-those-celiac-disease-cerebella-ataxia-being
No mention what-so-ever of wheat being a culprit.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)And the wheat we ate in Egypt is NOT the wheat we eat today.
If you really want to account for any change beyond "faddishness", you also have to account for agribusiness tinkering with the product.
So you'd have to also look at this study by a group of scientist in the Netherlands that compares today's wheat plants with ones that were grown over 100 years ago.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20664999?dopt=Abstract
Guess what? It ain't the same product.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)The author thinks that the wheat we eat now is "Franken-Wheat," that it has been messed with way more than GMO corn, and that 60 years ago it was a different plant.
Honestly looking at all the research he did, I could not make heads or tails out of it because I don't have a great scientific mind. But I decided I didn't have anything to lose to give it up for 3 weeks and see if it made any difference for me. In 3 DAYS I noticed a difference! I woke up clearer and with more energy - did my morning workout faster.
Now it is 3 months and later, 18 lbs gone and my "borderline" blood pressure is fine! So I am sticking with it, I also find that the cravings for bread, pasta, and sweets go away (even though I eat other starchy foods, like beans, brown rice, potatoes, etc. so not all my meals are "low carb."
What I think is, if you eat wheat and you don't have any of the chronic health issues that plague most Americans then keep up your diet, if it's working for you. But if you are struggling with weight, blood pressure, blood sugar, fatigue etc. then give it a try.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Actually, descriptions of the disease goes back centuries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celiac_disease
whicih goes on to say that a "modern" understanding of the disease in our time was around 1954.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)my sister is in the process of figuring out if she has celiac. Since we both have immune/inflammation issues, I should take a look too...
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)myself included. We don't have an allergic reaction, but it makes the FM symptoms worse. And I've discovered that if I avoid wheat, my weight stays stable . . . BONUS!
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)perfectly ok to eat.
I have to laugh sometimes at the huge epidemic of wheat intolerance we seem to be in the midst of. Most cases appear to be self-diagnosed.
Whatever. I'll continue to include wheat in my diet, thank you.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)The coevolution of genes, innovation and culture in human evolution
Richard McElreath,
Department of Anthropology, University of Utah, Salt Lake City 84103, USA
"Wheat is one of humanity's great inventions. Coming in great variety, locally
adapted to microclimates, it converts energy into a form people can use
to make more people. It is also nearly wholly dependent upon people for
its survival|like other grains, wheat seed does not easily break from the
grass, but instead stays rm, stuck to a \tough" rachis, waiting for the
farmer or machine to remove them all at once. A sensible wild grain instead
disperses seed to the wind. Other domestic species are similar; they have
partly out-sourced their reproduction to humans, in exchange for security.
Domestic cattle|whatever you think of their intelligence|have done quite
well, compared to their extinct wild ancestors."
http://xcelab.net/rmpubs/mcelreath_mind_the_gap.pdf
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)I'm so tired of pseudoscience. Some people with allergies or difficulties digesting certain foods shouldn't eat those foods. The rest shouldn't worry a bit. EVERY food has potential to harm certain people due to allergy, toxicity, digestive disorders, and potential disease vectors. Big whoop. Those without specifically related illnesses who want to worry about it can just stop eating... everything.
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)shares more than 200 conditions that have current SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH .
There are not pseudoscience claims in this article. It links to PUBMED.
But then, one would need a curious mind to pursue research outside one's insulated 'let someone else do my thinking' mindset.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)And, yeah, this is a hilarious use of selective preliminary research.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)That's a bummer.
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)Absolutely! Can we stand in the bright light of your awesome understanding?
You don't have to be a mainstream hugging parochial to understand science; which you MIGHT understand if you weren't so wed to your partisan lines.
What a flucking lame post you made.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Ad hominem to the core! Woo hoo!
Yeah, keep posting quack misinformation. It's such a great service to others.
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)Ad hominem attacks are ever so much more effective than facts and logic. Just ask Mitt Romney!
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)This is the type of issue that does not have to be proven to the believers and cannot be proven to the doubters.
My solution in such cases is simple. Try it. If it works for me then I accept it as useful for me. If it doesn't work for me then I dismiss it as not useful for me. Your mileage may vary.
I haven't tried this yet, but I see no harm in giving it a shot and seeing if it makes any noticeable difference to me. And even if it gives me some benefit that doesn't mean it will do anything for anyone else. Humans are too individual to ever be properly served by any "one size fits all" solutions of any kind.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Sorry, but this author has a long reputation of pushing BS pseudoscience. In this piece, he is simply misusing preliminary research in an attempt to scare people and get more readers.
How is that OK? How does that help anyone?
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)post a link to substantiate your claim? I don't see any vaccine articles.
THIS article, however, for the upteenth time LINKS to PUBMED research. How is that a misuse of research???
He's LINKING the RESEARCH! If that's a misuse, you need to explain to me.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Many of them go nowhere.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)The research is just preliminary research. Psuedoscience quacks abuse and misuse that because they don't understand what that means. You should know that, unless you have chosen to ignore many posts about it over time.
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)your posts. I just don't trust your judgement.
When you make a claim, you make the google. And that article is NOT by the same author. So once again you've proved nothing.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Goodbye.
Perhaps reading would help. That article in my link debunks anti-vax nonsense by the bozo who wrote the nonsense in the OP.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)People who say "This is good for everyone," are almost certainly wrong.
People who say "This is good for nobody," are almost certainly wrong.
There may be some people who are sensitive to wheat but don't realize it who would benefit from eliminating wheat from their diet. If they "give it a shot" they will benefit.
I just don't see any benefit in prejudging anyone. (Except Republicans and Fundamentalists, of course. )
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)says, "It's not possible", that person is NOT a scientist. They are a person with an opinion.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)The guy links to nothing but preliminary research and tries to create great fear by doing so. it's despicable at best.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Some are making a great deal of money off of this.
Who is making a great deal of money off this?
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Gluten free products are a huge business right now, and they always cost more, often lots more.
My wish is to think up a disease that everyone has and then provide the solution for it. Then I will be very, very rich.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Ugh.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)bottled water is a gross waste of resources that benefits nobody.
A few (damn few as I understand it) people have legitimate gluten intolerance. So having gluten free products available benefits them. For everyone else it's like the "organic" fad; utterly useless. (This, of course, is just my opinion, and is subject to change.)
cbayer
(146,218 posts)They have been able to change their diets for a very long time without having specific products.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)I guess gluten-free bread should be classified as a luxury item rather than a necessity.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)They were able to change their diets without buying "luxury" items. They missed some of the foods, but were OK with just leaving them out of their diet.
Just like a diabetic, they adjust. They don't need anything special.
But the gluten free manufacturers saw a market and promoted an illness that does not really exist, imo.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)My late wife's late mother had celiac disease, but just didn't want to do without bread, so she spent lots of money (back in the 80's) for special gluten free products.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)In my case it really is solving a lot of very common health issues, mainly, middle age weight gain and resulting high blood pressure. Really the weight fairly FELL OFF even though I did indulge in "unhealthy" stuff in small amounts (the weekend french fries and/or martini.)
I do love and sometimes miss pizza, pasta and sourdough bread. But I also love having my weight be "normal range" at my physical and have the doctor write "excellent!' on my blood results. And I do love eating fresh, unprocessed food for the most part it is not that hard.
I would encourage anybody that has nagging weight/health issues to try it. You don't have to buy anything fancy, just lose the wheat for a week or so and see if you don't feel better!
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)by simply eliminating wheat products my weight dropped. That is ALL that I changed. I'm not exercising more, pretty much eating what I want, except wheat.
I tried this to get some relief from fibromyalgia . . . i never expected weight loss to be a by-product!
And I don't buy any 'gluten-free' products. After a few weeks, you don't miss bread and pasta.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)DavidL
(384 posts)Why Laptops Should Be Renamed To Protect Consumers
Does Fluoride Calcify Your Arteries?
Research From 100+ Countries Confirm (sic) Sunlight Prevents Cancer (Web articles not proof-read as to subject and verb agreement?)
And, just to keep everything in "balance" with what you should give up if you buy the OP's article about wheat... try THIS ONE!
"Rice, Potato, & Tomato May Be As Inflammatory As Wheat"
Kind of leaves me wondering what the heck I should eat if I cannot eat rice, wheat, potatoes and tomatoes. (No more pizza?)
Ah, I found the solution, right here:
The Remarkable Healing Properties of Pumpkin Seed
Let me guess, the guy has no degree in science, has been in the "nutrition field" for over ten years... so I should read his stuff and eat his diet? This guy is Mr.. Snake Oil Salesman, 21st century edition.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)both of my sons have alopecia areata, an auto-immune disorder that causes hair loss. They happen to have the most extreme form, called alopecia areata universalis, which means they have no hair whatsoever, none on their head, no eyebrows or eyelashes or any hair anywhere on their body.
I've been to the national conferences altogether about a dozen times over the years, and the newcomers to the disease are always looking for a magic cure. The thing with alopecia is that at present they don't really know what causes it (although there seem to be some genetic markers) and there is no cure. The other maddening thing about it is that it can come and go without any apparent rhyme or reason. A person who has been totally bald for a long time might spontaneously grow hair again.
So. Several years ago I got into quite an argument with a mom of a girl with alopecia areata who was absolutely convinced that not only was her child's hair loss caused by something called "leaky gut syndrome", but probably most alopecia was caused by it, and by the way, most people didn't realize that most of them had this condition. It could be solved by eliminating certain foods, of which I think she said wheat was one.
It never fails to amaze me how many people are invested in being ill in some way.
DavidL
(384 posts)SEPTEMBER 4, 2012
Jis article is the naturalistic fallacy on megadoses of steroids. To him, science isnt just subverting Nature (with a capital N, again!) but its producing vaccines that are allegedly going to permanently alter us to make us no longer human. Vaccine scientists and doctors are somehow callous lack of regard for three billion years of evolution, as though evolution could never be improved upon. What is medicine, after all, if not interfering with evolution. Antibiotics interfere with evolutionary selection in that they save lives that might otherwise have been lost, allowing reproduction that might never have happened. So does surgery, a whole host of medicines, and a number of other treatments. Thats the idea.
In other words, thats the whole point of medicine. Unless you believe in creationism, or its cousin Intelligent design, evolution is not a guided process that has some planned endpoint. Natural selection is is not some special process to guide evolution; it is the gradual, non-random process by which biological traits become either more or less common in a population as a function of differential reproduction of their bearers, usually as a result of environmental pressures. Medicine can be a positive environmental pressure. Ji is an amateur biologist, who apparently either does not understand evolution, or is intentionally ignorant of it.
In Jis newest article, hes whining, I mean reporting that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has awarded numerous grants that offend the anti-science sensibilities of Ji, and by extension, the vast vaccine denialism (and even more broadly science denialism) community. Heres some of the stuff that the Foundation sponsored that Ji disliked:
much more at link:
http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/vaccine-denialists-hate-bill-gates-part-2/
condoleeza
(814 posts)that anything related to gluten intolerance seems to evoke such a passionate response for those who think it's "just a fad".
The estimates are that 1 in 3 carry the genes for gluten intolerance, the "FrankenWheat" unleashed by Monsanto has 3X as much gluten in it and has infected wheat worldwide, even in countries where GMO seeds are forbidden, the birds brought it into NZ and it is almost impossible to find any wheat crop anywhere in the world now that doesn't bear the Monsanto DNA, who has had the balls to actually sue farmers who didn't buy their seed when their DNA was found in their wheat. The lawsuits should go the other direction.
I've been gluten free since 8/'09, was tested for celiac, was negative. Pretty much everyone who has had a concern that led them to be tested for celiac, who then went on to have the genetic testing done, because they were still symptomatic, knows that the blood test for celiac only tests for the main celiac genes. It was developed in the 50's - before Monsanto destroyed wheat - it is completely worthless for those who have the known gluten sensitive gene combination.
I am genetically gluten sensitive. I learned this after getting a diagnosis by colonoscopy of both types of Microscopic Colitis in Oct. '09 when I was 60. I had the colonoscopy because at that time I'd lost 1/4th of my body weight after 3 years of diarrhea. They recommended heavy duty steroids to shut off my autoimmune system, something I would not take, as it cost a fortune, even with good insurance, and steroids are bone poison and I already had bone loss. So, I'd already been gluten free for 4 months on the recommendation of my Naturopath who I'd finally found to treat the bone and cartilage loss with prolotherapy, which was caused by years of an over-active autoimmune response in my body. He did the celiac testing, which was negative, but felt I had every sign of gluten sensitivity. After my colonoscopy results, and a great deal of research on how to treat it w/o drugs, I was genetically tested in 11/'09 and am what is called a double DQB1, which often indicates multiple sensitivities. I'm fortunate that I'm not allergic/sensitive to dairy (which I used to react to and no longer do) or soy, which is often the case.
I'd previously been dx with Fibromyalgia, arthritis, atopic dermatitis, psoriasis, eczema, you name it and had been in pain for 15 years. I literally had skin peeling off my hands and feet in sheets at one time. Was told by the head of Rheumatology at my local teaching university/hospital that if I didn't take methotrexate or sulfasalazine to shut down my immune response that I would be disabled in 5 years. This was 15 years ago. Over 80% of medical research is funded by drug companies, who have a vested interest in treatment vs cure. Small wonder why skeptics abound.
No one really knows why gluten sensitive genes get "turned on" in someone, but they clearly do. http://www.healthnowmedical.com/blog/2012/10/05/medical-procedures-causing-gluten-intolerance/
Most people develop their GI symptoms after a traumatic event, which was what happened in my case. I know the skeptics love to debunk this as a fad, but it is real and I have only to look at my older siblings who have had numerous surgeries because of their "arthritis" and 1 had her spine collapse and is now in a nursing home, another walks with a cane. I have my own business, which is enormously physically challenging and all my symptoms of all those diseases went away after I went gluten free. My daughters and grandchildren have now all been genetically tested. Both my daughters and my 2 grandsons have the gluten sensitive gene, the youngest grandson was diagnosed as having Crohns when he was 8 mos. old and beginning to eat wheat. We're all gluten free now and we're all healthier for it.
Most of the research on this has been done in Northern European countries - for 2 reasons, as I see it - Northern Europeans have the highest genetic occurance of gluten intolerance and they also have Nationalized Healthcare. Thus they have a vested interest in cure vs. treatment of illness. It's no wonder our medical care in the US is so out of control, the drug companies run it.
As was true with ulcers being bacterial in nature, we are now 1 year into a 2 year study on an antibiotic that will likely cure Crohn's Disease. The test is being done by Red Hill Pharmaceuticals, an Israeli drug company, who developed this antibiotic after buying the patent on a blood test developed by Dr. Naser and his team at University of Central Florida many years ago. 2 recent studies in the US found an almost 100% occurrence of Mycobacterium Avium Paratuberculosis, which is a bacteria found in cows and is passed to humans via milk from cows who have Johnnes Disease and meat from cows slaughtered because they have Johnnes and which there is NO regulation on for the sale of Johnnes diseased meat here in the US. This bacteria is normally naturally killed in the intestines of healthy people, but gluten is a sticky protein and for those who cannot digest it, it sticks to the walls of the intestine and ferments and causes gaps and holes where this bacteria can hide and proliferate.
DavidL
(384 posts)What estimates? What studies? What genes? No "estimates"! What are the SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS??? The truth is that your genes may be different than those of others who do not experience this intolerance as you suffer from, but to claim there are "estimates" that 1/3 of the Western wheat-consuming population is likely to suffer because of genetics similar to yours; well, I need to see you isolate the genes and make sure 1/3 of the population suffers with the same genetic makeup.
Your next outrageous statement that proves you don't cook or bake and never have:
"the "FrankenWheat" unleashed by Monsanto has 3X as much gluten in it and has infected wheat worldwide"
Do you have any understanding of the chemistry of cooking and baking, and know how the properties of gluten have an effect upon the baking process, upon the process of making or cooking pasta? If your statement were true, breads would no longer rise, cakes would be as flat as a flat bread, and all pasta would be like a Halloween toffee chewy sweet, sticking to the roof of your mouth.
I am sorry for your possibly genetic intolerance for gluten products, and the pain and suffering you have undergone. But you are not typical of the billions of human beings on this planet, you are typical of someone who has an intolerance for gluten products, and saw side effects that were horrific, and you suffered, and I am sorry for that. I really am. But for you to state outrageous claims that 1/3rd of the population of the Western wheat-eating world may suffer the way you have suffered all because of your outrageous claim there is 3 times the amount of gluten in wheat today than there was generations ago, all because of some chemical company wanting to make a profit, well, I'm not buying into your predictions of misery.
When organizations like CARE and world-food charities arrive upon a starving population in Africa, or elsewhere, what do you think they provide to them? Wheat, corn meal, rice, and dried milk products, nuts and nut products, and synthetic and natural vitimins. Within weeks, the vast majorities of them prosper, (some die, or get sick, it's natural in such an infectious and non-sterile hostile environment) within months, children begin their normal growth patterns, within a few years, virtually all diseases, (including diseases associated with massive starvation, -rickets -scurvy, etc), are brought within normal tolerances, close to eradication. The World Health Organization, WHO, has been studying the efficacy of such efforts since the 1950's, and found no adverse effect from the substitution of wheat over rice, corn products over coconut meal, etc. The vast majority of the world's population can be supplied with nutritious feeding from diets rich in proteins and carbohydrates, (which wheat and rice and corn supply), no matter which source is used.
Wheat is an essential part of the diet of over half the population of the planet, over 4 billion people, often with corn, rice poultry, fish pork and red meat in the most affluent nations, (corn, rice and rice products, with fish, poultry and pork, are the most essential diet staple of the remaining 3 billion, who ALSO contract Fibromyalgia, arthritis, atopic dermatitis, psoriasis, eczema, in similarly small percentage numbers compared to the overall general population ).
Let's not leap to conclusions, you have an genetically-induced allergenic phenotype, but 1/3 of the world is not like you in that regard, nor is most of wheat produced on the planet today a product containing 3 times the gluten of former generations. My grandmother's high-rise cake still rises when I bake it for my grand-children's birthday.
condoleeza
(814 posts)I rarely bake anymore, I keep a gluten free kitchen now, as the risk for cross contamination is too great. I don't miss baked goods, and rarely use the expensive gluten free mixes, except for making waffles for the grandkids. Obviously I still buy breads, cookies and pastries for my work.
You have made the classic wrong assumption about gluten, a higher gluten content actually makes for a lighter fluffier texture in baked goods.
You mentioned that food charities feed wheat, rice and corn to a starving population. This can and has often been disastrous, do you know why they supply those items? They are cheap, they are filling, they aren't healthy.
Some interesting history on wheat and bleaching wheat:http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/03/26/The-Little-Known-Secrets-about-Bleached-Flour.aspx
A highly respected Dr.'s article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/gluten-what-you-dont-know_b_379089.html
More info: https://www.enterolab.com/StaticPages/Faq.aspx
The figure of 1 in 3 people carrying the genetic combination for gluten sensitivity is a widely used estimate. This doesn't mean that one third of the world will get as sick as I did, because not all carriers of those genes will have those genes activated by a trauma, surgery, cancer, disease, childbirth or any of the other known triggers.
I have no wish to debate you, David, I have extensively studied this for over 3 years now. I'm trying to leave 3 links here, but they aren't showing up when I preview it, so I don't know what I'm doing wrong here. I used to have bookmarks for everything on my previous computer, and don't have the time to find them to prove my points. I am curious as to why you are so passionately trying to prove gluten sensitivity is pseudo science.
As a caterer I have seen firsthand how many people are aware of food sensitivities now and I have to say that the gluten free people were often difficult to make allowances for when planning meals and it was a pain in the ass for me. I have literally done some jobs where 1 in 3 were gluten free and in one case it also included the resident dog that everyone was warned not to feed. I hope you're not one of the 1 in 3, it takes most of us years of illness before we figure it out. IMO, there should be mandatory screening for it, as there is in Finland. If you had an incidence of a cancer in your family that had a genetic link, such as there is in breast cancer, wouldn't you want to know, for your own protection?
Edited to add links, can't figure out how to add "hot" links, sorry.
DavidL
(384 posts)Obviously you don't do much thinking before you come to conclusions, because I am NOT "trying to prove gluten sensitivity is pseudo science".
You made that up. Gluten sensitivity is real, and affects a small percentage of the world population,for still unknown, and still un-proven reasons. That is my stance. I stated such in my post to which you responded. I also implied that many charlatans and frauds have shown up on the scene and made lots of money as a result of this fact, capitalizing upon the gullible minds who, much like you, come to improper and unsubstantiated irrational conclusions.
But then you went on and on about how much of a wonderful cook you are, and how you cook without gluten products, for which I have to show a great deal of admiration. How you can be a caterer and serve only gluten free products, but.... oh wait... you BUY them to satisfy your customers..........
Obviously I still buy breads, cookies and pastries for my work.
But answer me this one question, when you are in charge of the World Health Organization and have to send millions of pounds of food to a starving population, what are you going to send? Rice? Fish? Corn? Peanuts? No wheat?
If you had bothered to do research on food allergies, you would find out that a small percentage of the population has an allergic reaction to one source of nutrition or another, fish, peanuts, yes, even rice, corn and wheat. To make broad generalizations, based upon pseudo-science and propaganda is not sound research. Either there IS a genetic predisposition to gluten allergies or there is not, and sound genetic science can find it or it cannot.
But to claim that 1 in 3 people is susceptible to such an allergy, without any sound scientific research is outrageous, as outrageous as your claim that I am "so passionately trying to prove gluten sensitivity is pseudo science". I am not, and I clearly stated that I am not, I offered you sympathy for your rather rare condition, a condition which science and credible nutritionists still do not fully understand. Please stop muddying the research frontiers with claims that someone who is a knowledgeable skeptic of outrageous claims is "so passionately trying to prove gluten sensitivity is pseudo science".
As for gluten allergies in the USA, Please read up.
Between 0.5 and 1.0 percent of people in the United States are sensitive to gluten due to Celiac disease. (National Digestive Diseases Information Clearing House. National Institutes of Health (NIH). 2004. Retrieved 8 September 2009)
Gluten is used as a stabilizing agent in products like ice cream and ketchup, where it might be unexpected.
Gluten may be present in beer and soy-sauce as well. Code of Federal Regulations Center. April 1, 2007.
By the way, did you ever think that your profession as a caterer might be the cause of your allergenic reaction? Several studies out there indicate that
"Wheat allergy is a rare allergy which typically presents as a food allergy, but can also be a contact allergy resulting from occupational exposure to wheat." ( "A new approach to the isolation and characterization of wheat flour allergens.", Clin Exp Allergy. 2011 Jul;41(7):1031-43) You cinnamon rolls may have caused your adverse reactions; we simply don't know.
condoleeza
(814 posts)throughout this thread, it seemed as if you had a mission. I did not go on and on about how much of a wonderful cook I am, simply said I was known for my baked goods. I always wear surgical gloves when handling any food I am preparing, gluten containing or not and am fully aware of the dangers. I suppose it's possible that having been a baker for almost 50 years, could have been what pushed my genetic intolerance over the edge, I'll never know.
My symptoms began about the time I started baking when I was 9, but I'd been raised on bread, my mom was a baker, however, my first intestinal symptoms appeared after a traumatic event, which is often the case. I then began to develop intestinal scar tissue that would cause occasional partial small bowel obstructions throughout my teen years. Had surgery at 23 to remove scar tissue and uterus, at 35 there were a series of total obstructions which required another surgery, which is when my autoimmune disorders began w/o relenting until I gave up gluten. I'm not an anomaly. My history is that of many people I've come to know during my years of research on this which started in '05.
I rarely get glutened anymore, but since being GF (and it takes most of us a good 6 months to get the toxins out) if I am glutened, I am sick literally within 15 minutes. Gluten is in places you'd never expect, it's in raspberry and mixed berry EmergenC, chapstick, toothpaste, vitamins, supplements, smoothies, I could go on and on. It's everywhere. My last big mistake, just last week was @ Emerald Valley Smoothies - who put wheat germ in their smoothies. I wasn't even halfway through it before I had diarrhea, which was so intense I ended up at my Dr.'s office last Friday needing 2 litres of fluids because I was so dehydrated and I'm still sick.
Very little research has been done in the US on this. Most of the valuable research has been done in Finland, Sweden and Norway, all countries with nationalized healthcare. Our GI docs in the US seem to stop learning once they get their MD, but this is fortunately rapidly changing. Don't underestimate the role that the drug companies play in their "research" for drugs to treat instead of cure. Common sense should tell us that we are what we eat and if you have any chronic health condition, a food allergy, be it wheat, peanut, soy, yeast.......should be the first place you look.
As to feeding the starving, my first answer would be education, birth control, giving females some rights so they aren't sexually mutilated as kids and then married off and or put into prostitution at 10 to give birth to 10 kids - half of which die - and assistance in setting up programs to help them keep bees for honey, plant foods they can eat fresh. The staples you list are those which don't require refrigeration and as such are just fillers, IMO. Don't have a solution, but surely canned goods and dried fruits and vegetables could be part of this. Systematic starvation of those in impoverished countries is often political, it's high time the US stopped aiding and abetting it.
You and I can argue over my 1 in 3 #, but it is a widely used # for gluten sensitivity. True celiacs are 1 in 100. How our drug contolled western med ever allowed celiac disease or Crohn's disease to be actually considered a disease, is a wonder and those who have it are still woefully uninformed about dietary intolerances as a cause. Did you look at the links that I left? Here's another.
http://www.finerhealth.com/Essay/
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)wheat or other products containing gluten. I am one of those. I can eat it without any negative side effects. So can my wife, and all of my friends except one guy who has confirmed celiac disease. When he comes to my house, I prepare gluten-free food.
It's wrong to say that wheat and gluten are harmful, and then stop there. For most people, eating wheat and other gluten-containing foods is just fine and causes no problems. Why should those people pay any attention to your flashing website. Be more specific with your statements. The kind of broad, sweeping statements contained in your post are simply incorrect for the vast majority of people.
Be specific. If people have known gluten intolerances, then dietary changes will be of benefit. For most people, however, there's no positive in eliminating gluten from their diet. Now, I have a thick crust pizza to eat.
DavidL
(384 posts)National Digestive Diseases Information Clearing House. National Institutes of Health (NIH). 2004
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)or any other gluten-containing foods. For the rest of us, though, there's no reason to panic. Some others may be sensitive to gluten, but that's still a very small number of people. This kind of broad broom warning is stupid. Those who can't eat gluten shouldn't. Everyone else can do as they please.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)First of all people who pour giant bowls of cereal, it's probably 3 servings right there -- when you read the box the serving size is like 3/4 of a cup but the only people who are conscious of that are people on Weight Watchers! And half the time, you pour in some more to kind of "even out" the milk, am I right?
In your average office breakroom there is that bakery box with half-donuts that everybody chips away at every time they walk through -- lunch = sandwich time, is there a salad served without croutons or rolls involved? Then at dinner half the time more flour in the form of hamburger buns, pizza crust or pasta. Haven't even factored in desert, pretzels, etc! Between the flour and sugar, it's not a mystery why we have an obesity epidemic in all age groups and the diabetes and the rest of it.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Portion control is always an issue, and Americans aren't very good at that, generally.
I'm not bothered by gluten at all. That doesn't mean I eat mass quantities of food containing it. I don't have a weight problem, and eat sensibly, but I eat everything. I'm lucky that no foods cause me problems. If they did, I wouldn't eat those foods. But I eat all foods in moderation.
My reason for posting in this thread is that the vast majority of people do not have any sort of sensitivity to the gluten content of food. There's no reason for such people to avoid eating things made with wheat. No reason whatsoever.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)that the "typical American diet" is not working for many people and we have become a rather fat, sick society.
In my case going wheat free has solved a lot of health problems for me, so I'm glad I gave it a try!
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)the stuff its based on is that wheat is horrible for everyone. That's bullshit, plain and simple. It's bad for some few people. They shouldn't eat it. The rest can eat it as they choose, without ill effect. If a person has a bad diet or overeats, that's another matter entirely.
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)"pulled straight from the ass of the author", then yes, it's a good article.
I could come up with 200 reasons not to drink water, but I'm not going stop consuming it any time soon.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)What am I suppose to replace the bread with?
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)Besides veggies and fruit, all minimally processed beans, nuts, cheese, meat, fish, eggs. Lots of things to eat! If you like you can sub rice, potatoes and quinoa for the bread; although probably the smaller amount you make grains and starches, the better.
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At one point it would have seemed weird to me to have an omelette without toast, but now I don't miss the toast.
Check out my salmon, asparagus and avocado salad!
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If you are used to sandwiches, basically, eat the inside of the sandwich as a salad or deli plate for instance, instead of a turkey and cheese sandwich with mustard you have rolled up turkey and cheese with mustard dip, and always salad, salad, salad! I don't get bored of salad because I make such awesome salads, with different ingredients, and I don't cheat on the olive oil either!
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)I will try to replace bread with rice and beans, and eat lots of salads. I'll see how it goes.
Cheers!
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)Be creative with your meals and double up on the fruit & veggies, it took me 3 days to notice a difference, when I woke up the 4th day, my head was so clear and hopped out of bed instead of dragging myself out!
If you have cravings at first, try a few raw almonds with fruit, and some herbal tea. Good luck! It takes a lot of focus to opt out from the "typical American diet" not to mention the constant ads for unhealthy things we see and hear every day, but nothing makes as big of a difference in your health and energy as backing away from the processed food.