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Warpy

(111,339 posts)
13. It could be arrogance feeding carelessness
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 07:30 PM
Apr 2023

or it could be just a matter of smaller hands doing finer work, something that would be even more important with smaller female patients.

I did notice over the years that female surgeons had fewer incidents with nicks and bleeding. I'm glad this study has been done and it confirms my very informal observation.

The chance of dying in surgery or within the first days post op is very small. It's not enough to reject a talented surgeon who happens to be male.

niyad

(113,552 posts)
10. One female anaesthesiologist said that there is a very different feel in the room
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 07:16 PM
Apr 2023

with a male or a female surgeon. A female team tends to be more collegial, more cohesive, for one thing.

None of this should surprise any of us.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. It would be interesting to see how they did the calculation. There are far more male surgeons than
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 07:06 PM
Apr 2023

female, even though there has been in female Docs in recent decades. It also depends on what time frame they used.

niyad

(113,552 posts)
7. please google and read, for example, the nyt article, which discussed and
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 07:12 PM
Apr 2023

explained one particular study at length.

niyad

(113,552 posts)
5. I just googled "male surgeon vs female surgeon outcomes". The results
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 07:10 PM
Apr 2023

were, to say the least, disturbing. The nyt article was first up, but all the articles and studies said pretty much the same thing. Actually, not really surprising. Women tend not to be taken seriously by the male medical profession, for one thing.

But I urge everyone to google, and read. It could mean your life.

Shermann

(7,428 posts)
6. There are endless ways that statistic could be misleading
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 07:11 PM
Apr 2023

Are the riskier surgeries that are attempted split proportionally across the two sexes?

UniqueUserName

(178 posts)
8. I'm always leary of these statistics done by analyzing other studies
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 07:14 PM
Apr 2023

You're also statistically more likely to die in a hospital. But you know why? That's because you go to a hospital when you're sick.

You're also more likely to have a car crash within 10 Mi if you're home. Well most of your driving is within 10 miles of your home.

I bet the gender gap between the number of male and female surgeons is still way out of balance. I'd have to know they had corrected for any imbalance that might be due to the sheer difference in the amounts of surgeons that are male versus female.

TexasTowelie

(112,417 posts)
9. I believe that medical specialty & trauma level are going to influence those statistics.
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 07:16 PM
Apr 2023

Was there any mention that the survey adjusted for these factors or was it raw data that did not take into account that fatalities are more likely for patients admitted into ER than for scheduled surgeries or that firearm wounds are more fatal than gall bladder surgeries? Without the proper context raw data is meaningless.

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