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polly7

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I feel so bad for women when I see them covered Skittles May 2014 #1
Ditto to that post!!!!!!! n/t onecent May 2014 #2
Any rational person knows.... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #4
The muslim women tom_kelly May 2014 #7
Most muslim women in the US.... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #9
Brave and inspiring women! theHandpuppet May 2014 #3
Love this photo! That's one beautiful woman there! Proud, brave, and unveiled. calimary May 2014 #5
Covering their heads & faces enables the Lady to assume responsibility for the man's lust. hue May 2014 #6
goosebumps! BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #8
They are, aren't they? polly7 May 2014 #11
The sad thing is that under the repressive regime of the Shah women had much more freedom. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #10
Here's to beautiful, intelligent and defiant Iranian women! Kath1 May 2014 #12

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
1. I feel so bad for women when I see them covered
Fri May 30, 2014, 06:15 PM
May 2014

say all you want about their so-called freedom to do what they want but to me it symbolizes the insane oppression of women

onecent

(6,096 posts)
2. Ditto to that post!!!!!!! n/t
Fri May 30, 2014, 06:35 PM
May 2014
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
4. Any rational person knows....
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:30 PM
May 2014

most of these women aren't making a choice to wear it- they have no choice. Islam, the religion of peace

tom_kelly

(961 posts)
7. The muslim women
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:50 PM
May 2014

in the US who wear the scarf face problems. People don't associate with them and some feel alienated. Its unfortunate but they're wearing it to hide themselves, for one reason or another, and I for one don't want to be intruding.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
9. Most muslim women in the US....
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:07 PM
May 2014

are wearing it because their husbands tell them to.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
3. Brave and inspiring women!
Fri May 30, 2014, 06:41 PM
May 2014

What a fabulous photo, too.

calimary

(81,350 posts)
5. Love this photo! That's one beautiful woman there! Proud, brave, and unveiled.
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:39 PM
May 2014

Why would anyone have to cover that up?

hue

(4,949 posts)
6. Covering their heads & faces enables the Lady to assume responsibility for the man's lust.
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:43 PM
May 2014

The Koran does NOT dictate for a woman to cover Her hair or face. It is only the males who want to blame the Women for their lustful thoughts.

Kudos to these brave, lovely Ladies!!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
8. goosebumps!
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:57 PM
May 2014

The pics at the article are powerful!!!!!

polly7

(20,582 posts)
11. They are, aren't they?
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:27 PM
May 2014

Beautiful, brave women.



"I'd rather they chopped off my head right in front of the warden's office door"

"Nasrin Sotoudeh, the human rights lawyer who spent 3 years in prison for defending female attorney clients, women's rights and prisoners' rights in general, wrote to the Stealthy Freedoms from Tehran and shared her thoughts on the call for women to have a choice over hijab"
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This is what Nasrin Sotoudeh wrote:

Stealth Freedoms -- This is rather an ironic term to refer to the current surge of activity that is going on in Iran. Because, as we all know, if something is done stealthily, then it cannot be called FREEDOM.
The term "Stealthy Freedom" is indicative of the pressures that exists within Iran. The issue of how women are covered up is something that is normally not taken seriously for several reasons. Now on the social media such activities do not have anything to do with being stealthy; and when thousands of women defy the hijab laws on social media, we cannot deny the existence of pressures for change
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But let me recount an episode from when I was imprisoned:
For many years, female prisoners have had to wear Chador (the long normally black sort of veil that covers a woman’s body fully), even though there is no such stipulation in the law. I'd like to point out that the kind of social pressure that exists outside the prison walls, exists many times more and exerts a lot more pressure on prisoners. In prisons, the wardens feel that they have complete power over the prisoners and that they can make them do whatever they want. That creates bitter feelings

When I was in jail, I argued with the ones who were in charge that according to the law hey did not have the right to force us wear the Chador. The head of the prison, however, did not follow the letter of the law and in the end repeated that we had to wear Chadors. This went on till one day, I told my jailers that I am not wearing the chador anymore and I'd rather they chopped off my head right in front of the warden's office door. I wasn't going to wear chador
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And I didn't


More: https://www.facebook.com/StealthyFreedom/photos/a.859102224103873.1073741828.858832800797482/867162266631202/?type=1 (sorry to anyone who can't access FaceBook).

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
10. The sad thing is that under the repressive regime of the Shah women had much more freedom.
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:00 PM
May 2014

There was also a bit of religious tolerance. So they rightfully got rid of a bad leader and substituted him with more bad leaders.

I know Iranians here who love their country but are very clear: they'll never move back there unless the laws are secularized.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
12. Here's to beautiful, intelligent and defiant Iranian women!
Sat May 31, 2014, 11:06 AM
May 2014


Marjane Satrapi

One of her quotes - "Religion is a very personal affair. It's between someone and what he considers the god, or the supreme spirit or whatever, and it's very good while it remains personal. The second it becomes public, it's no good."

So true. She is awesome.
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