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King_David

(14,851 posts)
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:29 PM Mar 2014

Ditching Boy Scouts for Trail Life over gay inclusion

NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, Texas -- Chatting in the living room one night, Ron Orr gave his 15-year-old son Andrew a choice: He could stick with the Boy Scouts of America and his mission to become an Eagle Scout, or he could join Trail Life USA - the new Christian-based alternative that excludes openly gay boys.

This was no small decision. Four generations of Orr men had been Eagles, including Ron and Andrew's older brother. Andrew had spent years working toward Scouting's highest rank, and was just months from reaching it.

But the Boy Scouts had decided to admit gays, and Ron Orr, a tall, soft-spoken man with a firm handshake, is clear about his Christian faith and what it says about homosexuality: It is a sin that cannot be tolerated.

His son agreed. He would forgo the century-old BSA for Trail Life, which officially launched just last month.

"It felt like I'd be hitting something higher than Eagle in terms of achievement," Andrew said, in an interview.

So Orr and his son left BSA and set out with other families to build a new organization based on what they believe to be Christian values. Orr is a regional organizer who speaks to churches and groups about Trail Life. His son now aspires to achieve a Freedom Award, the new group's highest rank.

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/hot_topics&id=9453140

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Ditching Boy Scouts for Trail Life over gay inclusion (Original Post) King_David Mar 2014 OP
"Freedom Award" xfundy Mar 2014 #1
That picture... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #2
Makes me think of the "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" scene from "Cabaret." n/t TygrBright Mar 2014 #3
Why is it that bigoted assholes always use terms like Freedom and Liberty dbackjon Mar 2014 #4
"what they believe to be Christian values." Simple, well expressed and utterly to the point. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2014 #5

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
1. "Freedom Award"
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:54 PM
Mar 2014

Freedom to hate. Freedom to think of others as less than human.

Freedom to self-hate, once some of them inevitably discover their sexual orientation.

Several years from now, psychologists will see an increase in clients.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
4. Why is it that bigoted assholes always use terms like Freedom and Liberty
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:59 PM
Mar 2014

To describe themselves when they are the antithesis of both>?

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
5. "what they believe to be Christian values." Simple, well expressed and utterly to the point.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 06:46 PM
Mar 2014

>>>So Orr and his son left BSA and set out with other families to build a new organization based on what they believe to be Christian values. >>>>

I never saw that particular phraseology employed to describe this tired and dreary phenomenon but it fits *exactly*.

The gospels of JC being entirely silent on the topic, and all.

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