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Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 10:36 PM Oct 2013

DOES anyone know if this is legit? It is a positive mind bend.



FROM UPWORTHY:
http://www.upworthy.com/a-dad-scolds-his-homophobic-daughter-in-this-beautiful-letter-2

A Dad Scolds His Homophobic Daughter In This Beautiful Letter

I'm not sharing this because I think this letter is fantastic (even though it is). This letter really illustrates that prejudice isn't always something that is learned from your parents.
Joseph Lamour






Dear Christine:

I'm disappointed in you as a daughter. You're correct that we have a "shame in the family", but mistaken about what it is.

Kicking Chad out of your home simply because he told you he was gay is the real "abomination" here. A parent disowning her child is what "goes against nature."

The only intelligent thing I heard you saying in all this was that “you didn’t raise your son to be gay”. Of course you didn’t. He was born this way and didn’t chase it any more than he being left-handed. You however, have made a choice of being hurtful, narrow-minded and backward. So, while we are in the business of disowning our children, I think I’ll take this moment to say goodbye to you. I now have a fabulous (as the gays put it) grandson to raise, and I don’t have time for heart-less B-word of a daughter.

If you find your heart, give us a call.

— Dad
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DOES anyone know if this is legit? It is a positive mind bend. (Original Post) Tigress DEM Oct 2013 OP
Honestly, my intuition and instincts say no. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #1
How so? xfundy Oct 2013 #3
Some times people put something like this out there as what they would "like to see someone say" Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #5
First of all, I am about as LGBT as anyone could possibly be, and then some. Zorra Oct 2013 #11
The original is on FCKH8.com site Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #7
What an odd question. xfundy Oct 2013 #2
But did the parents of the ones who rejected their kids stand up for the Grand Kid like this guy? Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #6
I hope its real LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #4
I think it is real and "out there" in order to support his Grandson. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #8
It made Yahoo shine Amimnoch Oct 2013 #9
Yes, it is real dbackjon Oct 2013 #10

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
3. How so?
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 12:14 AM
Oct 2013

Do you think it's implausible? That it couldn't happen?

Or do you think gay people are somehow "deserving" of being disowned because they don't fit into the mold society created for them? If so, how very sad.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
5. Some times people put something like this out there as what they would "like to see someone say"
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 08:40 AM
Oct 2013

THAT's why I asked if it's real. Disowning your Kid for disowning your Grandkid is a ballsy step and kind of the extreme in parenting a child who doesn't understand how hurtful they are being when they dish something like that out.


As a parent myself if my son would ever disown his own kids for being "gay" - something entirely outside of their control - then I might write a letter like that myself.

This Dad said, I don't like what you are DOING. Change your behavior or stay out of my life. There is a way home if you want to face your own issues.

His Daughter told her Son who you are offends me. If you can't change yourself to someone I can understand, you are no longer my Son.

Big difference in my book.

I don't think my Son would ever put me in this Dad's position, but my kid has lots of judgmental views and I've said worse to him in terms of mere verbal nastiness. He keeps wanting to be lazy and base his opinions on other people's opinions instead of facts...

So my Son told me the other day that "some" of what Rush Limbaugh says about blacks is right and started quoting numbers to me that I know are false. First I said, "Those numbers are wrong. Look it up and then we'll talk" Mom's and homework, huh?

My Son said to me, "No I don't care if the numbers are wrong, I've experienced... so I have the right to my opinion." Grrrrr. "OK, but if your opinion is based on lies and outright BS, then your opinion is BS. Bring me some actual facts or quit whining when I tell you an opinion based on BS is BS."

He's in his 30's. I expect and admire that he has his own opinions and is willing some days to throw down with the mama. But I didn't raise him to be a lazy student looking over someone's shoulder and cheating on tests. So if he wants to have his own opinion fine, let him get some facts and change his mind on his own. He's a logical person once he's in front of actual facts, but he's retaining his ignorance and trying to defend it with more ignorant behavior doesn't make him look like a real grownup to me.


Zorra

(27,670 posts)
11. First of all, I am about as LGBT as anyone could possibly be, and then some.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 09:55 PM
Oct 2013

And I know for a fact that the scenario is completely and entirely plausible. I wish I had grandparents that were that supportive of me when I confirmed the obvious.

I'm just being honest. My gut simply tells me that something is wrong here, and that this particularly scenario feels fabricated, for one or more reasons. It could be that the disowning of the bigot parent by the grandparent does not ring true. Something feels off. There is no reason for you to get all aggro here. We are most definitely on the same team.

I wear my orientation on my sleeve proudly every day, and no, I do not think I am somehow "deserving" of being disowned because I don't fit the mold created for me. I've never fit the mold,

I am all about breaking that mold, every second of every day of my life..

Here's a song I wrote and perform. As an xfundy, you might appreciate it.



xfundy

(5,105 posts)
2. What an odd question.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 12:12 AM
Oct 2013

This happens every day in America. Older people are quite capable of discerning right from wrong, even though their kids may succumb to hateful propaganda.

I've known several men who were kicked out of their families/homes for being gay. In fact, I am one who was rejected by family, but I rejected their hate first, till I was forced back into the family by events out of my control.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
6. But did the parents of the ones who rejected their kids stand up for the Grand Kid like this guy?
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 08:47 AM
Oct 2013

Unfortunately, I've seen a lot of bigoted people who learned what they learned FROM their families, so in what I have seen many Grandparents aren't a safe haven when their Grandkid comes out.

BUT the BOOMERS are now G's and Double G's so could be things are changing in this area in a BIG way.

Good for you for rejecting hate and for giving your family a second chance even if it was a forced situation. Maybe some real healing can take place for you with at least some of your family. Hopefully not everyone is drinking that koolaid.

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
4. I hope its real
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:16 AM
Oct 2013

But I find it hard to think the grandfather (or any other relative) would take a picture of his letter and then put it on the internet on a family matter this private.

I think the situation is real enough, but I don't see why anyone would air their laundry like that. But its possible.

If its real then its a sad sitution made better by a great grandfather who provided his grandson with a loving and accepting home. There is also something poetic about the "mother" getting a taste of her own hatefilled bigotry.

If its fake it still reveals a very sad yet real situation that happens all too often. It makes a great point regardless.

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