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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:52 AM Sep 2013

Pope Bluntly Faults Church’s Focus on Gays and Abortion

By LAURIE GOODSTEIN

Published: September 19, 2013

Pope Francis, in the first extensive interview of his six-month-old papacy, said that the Roman Catholic church had grown “obsessed” with preaching about abortion, gay marriage and contraception, and that he has chosen not to speak of those issues despite recriminations from some critics.

In remarkably blunt language, Francis sought to set a new tone for the church, saying it should be a “home for all” and not a “small chapel” focused on doctrine, orthodoxy and a limited agenda of moral teachings.

“It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time,” the pope told the Rev. Antonio Spadaro, a fellow Jesuit and editor in chief of La Civiltà Cattolica, the Italian Jesuit journal whose content is routinely approved by the Vatican. “The dogmatic and moral teachings of the church are not all equivalent. The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently.

“We have to find a new balance,” the pope continued, “otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel.”

full article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/world/europe/pope-bluntly-faults-churchs-focus-on-gays-and-abortion.html?_r=0

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Pope Bluntly Faults Church’s Focus on Gays and Abortion (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2013 OP
In Argentina he was a fire breathing anti gay activist, called marriage equality Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #1
Read the entire article... DonViejo Sep 2013 #2
Whether he's sincere or not... Sanddog42 Sep 2013 #3
This obsession with homosexuality came largely from his predecessor MNBrewer Sep 2013 #4
Francis lightened up! backscatter712 Sep 2013 #6
This, IMHO, is a trial balloon... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #5
Let's not change the policy, let's just change the PR... uriel1972 Sep 2013 #7
Yeah, I'll need to see more than this before I think joeybee12 Sep 2013 #8
He may be less "obsessed" with homosexuality, but don't kid yourself ... Old Union Guy Sep 2013 #9
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
1. In Argentina he was a fire breathing anti gay activist, called marriage equality
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:57 AM
Sep 2013

the work of the devil and 'an attack on God' and he said that adoptions by gay parents is 'a form of child abuse'. As if his clerical class has any standing to speak of child abuse.
He strikes me as a man who will say anything to sell himself to people. That's about it.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
2. Read the entire article...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:00 PM
Sep 2013

you'll encounter statements such as this:

The 12,000-word interview ranges widely, and may confirm what many Catholics already suspected: that the chameleon-like Francis bears little resemblance to those on the church’s theological or political right wing. He said some people had assumed he was an “ultraconservative” because of his reputation when he served as the superior of his Jesuit province in Argentina. He pointed out that he was made superior at the “crazy” young age of 36, and that his leadership style was too authoritarian.

“But I have never been a right-winger,” he said. “It was my authoritarian way of making decisions that created problems.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/world/europe/pope-bluntly-faults-churchs-focus-on-gays-and-abortion.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0

Sanddog42

(117 posts)
3. Whether he's sincere or not...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:50 PM
Sep 2013

I approve of the way he's using the bulliest of pulpits to steer public sentiment.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
4. This obsession with homosexuality came largely from his predecessor
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:37 PM
Sep 2013

God's Rottweiler Ratzinger. I'm glad Bergoglio realizes that it's 2013, not 1413.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
6. Francis lightened up!
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:22 AM
Sep 2013

Granted, he still has quite a few attitudes that still need to be brought from the 14th to the 21st century, but he's a huge improvement over Maladict!

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
5. This, IMHO, is a trial balloon...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 07:44 PM
Sep 2013

He says the focus must change, not the actual stand against both...I think he's trying to see how this goes down.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
7. Let's not change the policy, let's just change the PR...
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 03:18 AM
Sep 2013

I will wait for positive action. I still think he's window-dressing for the audience.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
8. Yeah, I'll need to see more than this before I think
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 10:44 AM
Sep 2013

he's all that much different from the others.

 

Old Union Guy

(738 posts)
9. He may be less "obsessed" with homosexuality, but don't kid yourself ...
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 11:37 PM
Sep 2013

... there is no change in doctrine here.

None.

He just wants to talk about something else for a change.

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