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MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:45 AM Jul 2013

Gay marriage: Britain, France in surprise contrast

http://news.yahoo.com/gay-marriage-britain-france-surprise-contrast-173306059.html

LONDON (AP) — The French like to make fun of the British, joking about their repressed ways in matters of the heart. But when it came time to debate same-sex marriage, it was France that betrayed a deep conservative streak in sometimes violent protests — while the British showed themselves to be modern and tolerant.

With little fanfare or controversy, Britain announced Wednesday that Queen Elizabeth II — hardly a social radical — had signed into law a bill legalizing same-sex marriages in England and Wales. France has also legalized gay marriages, but only after a series of gigantic protests attracting families from the traditional heartland that revealed a deeply split society.
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Gay marriage: Britain, France in surprise contrast (Original Post) MNBrewer Jul 2013 OP
France is much more Catholic.... joeybee12 Jul 2013 #1
I'm tempted to put it down to that MNBrewer Jul 2013 #2
Thing is, marriage equality had overwhelming support in France... joeybee12 Jul 2013 #3
It is indeed quite a surprise to me. closeupready Jul 2013 #4
There has been a genuine tipping point in the U.K. tjwmason Jul 2013 #5
The rise in RW anti-immigrant, anti-gay sentiments in France is disturbing, to say the least. pinto Jul 2013 #6
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
1. France is much more Catholic....
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jul 2013

And the Catholic Church was very vocal in its bigoted opposition to equality.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
2. I'm tempted to put it down to that
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jul 2013

But was Argentina as awful as France? Maybe France is more fully Catholic than Argentina is.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
3. Thing is, marriage equality had overwhelming support in France...
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 03:05 PM
Jul 2013

But the minroity was very, very vocal...

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
4. It is indeed quite a surprise to me.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:43 PM
Jul 2013

The UK was ALWAYS behind the curve when it came to issues relating to sexual liberty and freedom, relative not just to France but most of the developed world.

I'm happy and sad at the same time - happy for GLBT people in the UK, but sad for those GLBT in France who obviously continue to live in a society yolked with antiquated ideas about human nature and what the nature of a family should be.

tjwmason

(14,819 posts)
5. There has been a genuine tipping point in the U.K.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:45 AM
Jul 2013

It has taken place right across the political spectrum as well, though a large number of Conservative M.P.s voted against the new act it was passed largely because the leadership of the Conservative Party wanted it. Had it been proposed under a Labour government, I suspect that there would have been more opposition (though I'm sure it would still have passed).

pinto

(106,886 posts)
6. The rise in RW anti-immigrant, anti-gay sentiments in France is disturbing, to say the least.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 02:01 PM
Jul 2013

Liberté, égalité, fraternité

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