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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-07/same-sex-marriage-scores-first-u-s-ballot-box-victory.htmlGay marriage won approval from voters in Maine and Maryland, according to the Associated Press, the first time same-sex unions have been endorsed at the ballot box in the U.S.
Gay marriage won approval from voters in Maine and Maryland, according to the Associated Press, the first time same-sex unions have been endorsed at the ballot box in the U.S.
A similar measure was on the ballot in Washington, where results were still being tallied.
The votes in Maine and Maryland yesterday illustrate shifting attitudes over extending full legal recognition to homosexual relationships, which remains politically divisive even as it gains broader public support. The election put an end to more than a decade of defeat for advocates of same-sex marriage, which had been rejected by voters in every state where it appeared.
This is a very big victory for those who support same-sex marriage, said David Masci, a senior researcher with the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life in Washington. To have voters in two states side with same-sex marriage proponents would have been very unlikely just four years ago.
Glaug-Eldare
(1,089 posts)It is thrilling to see that the hard work we put into this effort in Maryland paid off in the end. For once, we can be a civil rights leader instead of being dragged into it, kicking and screaming. Next up, gun rights!
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)But this was an historic night. What an amazing sea change in public opinion.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)in the case of Maine, SSM had originally gone the legislative route. It was passed into law in 2009 and signed by our then governor John Baldacci (D).
However, pukes overturned it by referendum shortly thereafter. So that is why it was done the way it was.
I'm not a member of the LGBT community, but am so proud of my state this morning! And kudos to the Yes on 1 people! They ran an excellent campaign.
Btw- final tally...53% to 47%... I nice healthy win. Yay!
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)The courts have been out in front of this issue for a good reason. Human rights should not be determined at the ballot box or in the legislature. Our rights should not be up for a vote.
As I said - I celebrate this victory, it marks a sea change in public opinion, but I do so with the caveat that our rights, all of our rights for all of us, should never be up for a vote.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:09 PM - Edit history (1)
I too see it as a matter of human rights.
But at least the gains that were made last night is a good sign that people's attitudes are slowly but surely shifting just as President Obama's had. Just think- as little as a decade or so ago, the average person out there was shocked at the mere suggestion of gay couples marrying. Even here in reasonably liberal Maine.
So perhaps sometime in the near future, as more and more states come aboard, the courts will grant your/our wish.
Just one question though, and please pardon my ignorance on this, but couldn't Maine and the other states still codify this in civil rights language through their respective state courts, or would it have to go to the Federal Supreme Court?
I mean eventually, I'd love to see it go that route anyway (and hopefully President Obama will get to add a couple of new liberal SCOTUS members in the next 4 yrs), but in the meantime, as the rest of the country catches up, couldn't states such as mine set a precedent by doing this? IOW, last night's win wouldn't prevent that would it?
On edit: I'll leave it there, but just realized what a dumb question that was. For whatever reason, I wasn't thinking properly about the process... The judicial branch does not make policy (or, at least is not supposed to) but they do have the power to strike down existing law if found unconstitutional, which hopefully will be the case on the DOMA crap.
D'oh! I guess I'll quietly slink away now; back to Pets or something. Nice meeting you all, and thanks for letting me visit.
Veruca Salt
(921 posts)While I am quite frankly elated about this I firmly believe civil rights should never be a question of majority vote. It could have easily gone the other way.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Maine, Maryland, Minnesota and Washington!
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)JimmyDownUnder
(2 posts)Amendment 1 in Minnesota was defeated 51-47, the first defeat of a constitutional amendment to ban ssm. R74 in Washington State is ahead 52-48 with 51% of results reported, and given only half of the votes in King County (Seattle) have been reported, there's a pretty good chance Wash. is going to legalize gay marriage. As for the future, Delaware governor Jack Markell thinks his state could legalise ssm next year, while Gordon Fox, speaker of the Rhode Island House, expects a vote on ssm in January.
ShadowLiberal
(2,237 posts)If the Supreme Court doesn't do it for us first.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)And unlike 2008 they were happy tears