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Fearless

(18,421 posts)
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:38 AM Sep 2012

Rape Away The Gay? Radio Personality Tells Father To Get A Man To Rape His Daughter Until She Turns

A radio personality in Cleveland is facing tremendous backlash after telling a father that he should get one of his male friends to rape his daughter to force her to turn straight.

In response to an email from a father who suspected his daughter was gay after discovering her kissing another girl, DJ Dominic Deiter declared on the air that “You should get one of your friends to screw your daughter straight.”

You read that correctly. An apparently anti-gay radio personality told a father that he should arrange for his daughter to be raped repeatedly until she magically turns straight.


After the disgusting remark, GLAAD received multiple reports about the incident, which was said during ‘Rover’s Morning Glory’ radio program that airs on WWMS 100.7 FM radio station on Clear Channel Communications, which includes radio shows hosted by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and several other right-wing radio shows. Clear Channel is also owned primarily by Bain Capital, the company that Mitt Romney began and is still involved with.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/04/28/rape-away-the-gay/

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Mitt Romney sure knows how to invest his money. This is the kind of person we get in power if we don't all get out and vote.

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Rape Away The Gay? Radio Personality Tells Father To Get A Man To Rape His Daughter Until She Turns (Original Post) Fearless Sep 2012 OP
What is wrong with people? Jeezus. Lil Missy Sep 2012 #1
"What is wrong with people? Jeezus." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #6
well.... CanisCrocinus Sep 2012 #20
Well, Jesus also said to comfort the prisoner, not kill them. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #22
When will we have to stop to go through this crap hrmjustin Sep 2012 #2
This is so wrong-headed, and disgusting. What a stupid, ignorant man. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2012 #3
A clear sign of end times ... Kennah Sep 2012 #4
Outrageous! montana_hazeleyes Sep 2012 #5
Yes, lesbians just need a good raping PossumSqueezins Sep 2012 #7
"Rape" wasn't in the statement, though Gal Friday Sep 2012 #8
Yes, rape is in the statement. JoeyT Sep 2012 #9
I hereby Submit to you, Joey Gal Friday Sep 2012 #11
Good grief. Other than rape, what would you call it? dmr Sep 2012 #15
So, if a random guy references a lesbian he sees on TV and says "She needs to get laid" MercutioATC Sep 2012 #28
This isn't about a random guy seeing a lesbian on TV. dmr Sep 2012 #34
Sorry, I don't see that as a call to have her raped. MercutioATC Oct 2012 #35
Wow, in case anyone doubted how indefensible this is CreekDog Oct 2012 #58
It's insensitive and wrong on many levels. unapatriciated Oct 2012 #55
Funny thing is, JoeyT Sep 2012 #16
Will you submit to a mother who's daughter was raped because she was a lesbian? unapatriciated Oct 2012 #54
Agreed... elias7 Sep 2012 #17
If she doesn't consent it's rape n/t FreeState Sep 2012 #25
If you had heard the show, you'd know that "Dieter" is the frat boy you describe. MercutioATC Oct 2012 #36
That frat boy statement was precisely a call for rape MNBrewer Oct 2012 #42
This is much worse than frat boys meeting their first lesbian and their bigoted views unapatriciated Oct 2012 #56
Um isn't that the definition of rape? aandegoons Sep 2012 #21
Sorry, I don't agree. unapatriciated Oct 2012 #49
So wrong...... Mopar151 Sep 2012 #10
Homophobia and misogyny are siamese twins. n/t Scootaloo Sep 2012 #12
... xchrom Sep 2012 #13
Incredible. Wonder if he's employed next week? n/t Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #14
From April. Phew! Thought it had happened AGAIN. bunnies Sep 2012 #18
Unfortunately "therapeutic rape" has a long and disgusting history, and happens all the time Recursion Sep 2012 #19
Because such a traumatic experience would definitely leave the person feeling positive about 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #23
And yet, his audience, of TrueChristians™ no doubt – xfundy Sep 2012 #24
You're WAY off on the target audience. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #29
Update MNBrewer Sep 2012 #26
I live in Cleveland and am familiar with the "Rover's Morning Glory" radio show. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #27
Any other rationalizations you want to use to defend this idiot DJ? DonViejo Sep 2012 #30
Other than the fact that he never called for anybody to be raped? Nope. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #31
"You people"!?!?!?!? DonViejo Oct 2012 #40
Disgusting post. Cobalt Violet Oct 2012 #45
The fuck he didn't. opiate69 Oct 2012 #46
"You people"? morningfog Oct 2012 #53
Pretty hard for me to fucking lighten up. unapatriciated Oct 2012 #57
I would like you to imagine for a minute dsc Oct 2012 #44
You certainly seem to know a lot about intentionally playing controversial roles. Brickbat Oct 2012 #47
You Do Understand, Sir, This Is Bullshit, And What Was Called For Is Rape By Definition The Magistrate Oct 2012 #48
What the hell do you think "screw your daughter straight" implies? unapatriciated Oct 2012 #50
The guy needs to lose his job, plain and simple... Swede Atlanta Sep 2012 #32
A-Freaking-Men jmondine Sep 2012 #33
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #37
Showering with Men Shuhered Oct 2012 #39
+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #59
Sociopath Shuhered Oct 2012 #38
From South Africa One_Life_To_Give Oct 2012 #41
Why in the hell would a man email a "shock jock" and tell him that he suspected BeeBee Oct 2012 #43
Because he's an asshole? mindwalker_i Oct 2012 #51
Good answer. N/t BeeBee Oct 2012 #52

CanisCrocinus

(109 posts)
20. well....
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 09:00 AM
Sep 2012

Jesus never said anything like that. An idea is not responsible for the people who say they believe in it.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
22. Well, Jesus also said to comfort the prisoner, not kill them.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:32 PM
Sep 2012

But a lot of Christians fixate on how he died and not what he said when he was alive.

Seems some of them have taken that whole "died for my sins" thing to mean they got a "get out of jail card" so they can be complete assholes.

Kennah

(14,276 posts)
4. A clear sign of end times ...
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:24 AM
Sep 2012

... when religious and moral fundamentalists will commit crimes of violence to correct moral infractions.

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
5. Outrageous!
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 03:51 AM
Sep 2012

It's so disgusting how full of hate and violence people of his ilk are. Especially when most of them claim to be Christians.

Jesus was the total opposite. He would not want anything to do with people like this.

PossumSqueezins

(184 posts)
7. Yes, lesbians just need a good raping
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 03:58 AM
Sep 2012

And this is what passes off as "entertainment." IT'S NOT FUCKING FUNNY.

This is unacceptable and has to stop. This "entertainment" preys on the stupid and weak-minded who believe this shit.

This asshole needs to lose his job. I mean, I realize, according to hillbilly Biblical scholar Todd Akin that lesbians have protective vaginal mechanisms when being raped to prevent pregnancy but ....

 

Gal Friday

(87 posts)
8. "Rape" wasn't in the statement, though
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 04:11 AM
Sep 2012

"You should get one of your friends to screw your daughter straight" is a disgusting, perverse, misogynistic and abominable thing to say, but the word "rape" was not included.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
9. Yes, rape is in the statement.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 04:21 AM
Sep 2012

A father can't consent on his daughter's behalf, since consent isn't going to be given, rape is a necessary part of the statement.

 

Gal Friday

(87 posts)
11. I hereby Submit to you, Joey
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 04:32 AM
Sep 2012

I just got here, while you've paid money. I'll shut up now, like a good little girl.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
15. Good grief. Other than rape, what would you call it?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 05:44 AM
Sep 2012

It's rape.

It would also be a hate crime.

Sick and perverted.

The guy is suggesting the dad find someone to sexually assault his daughter - against her will.

Your passive post above is insulting.

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
28. So, if a random guy references a lesbian he sees on TV and says "She needs to get laid"
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 06:00 PM
Sep 2012

...he's calling for her to be raped?

dmr

(28,347 posts)
34. This isn't about a random guy seeing a lesbian on TV.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:02 PM
Sep 2012

It's about this statement to a dad: “You should get one of your friends to screw your daughter straight.”

Edit: forgot to add a word.

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
35. Sorry, I don't see that as a call to have her raped.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:44 AM
Oct 2012

It may be an insensitive statement, but that's what drive-time shock radio is all about.

having listened to the show on a semi-regular basis (it's a local show) that statement is one of the least offensive I've heard that particular character utter. I take it for what it is...a handful of people trying to be controversial enough to get themselves noticed in Cleveland.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
55. It's insensitive and wrong on many levels.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:39 PM
Oct 2012

But your statement of "She needs to get laid" is a little different (still wrong) and if you don't see the difference I can't help you.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
16. Funny thing is,
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 06:16 AM
Sep 2012

the original I'd typed out was a lot snottier. I went back and rewrote it to be much nicer before hitting post because you had a low post count.

I don't even pay attention to stars. I doubt most others do either.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
54. Will you submit to a mother who's daughter was raped because she was a lesbian?
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:27 PM
Oct 2012

Her rapist was a co-worker who harassed her daily about her sexual orientation. His words just before he raped her was "you just haven't met the right man" those words did not change the fact that this was rape. No one is asking you to "shut up now, like a good little girl", nor was there any mention of you not having a star. All Joey did was explain why you are wrong about this statement.

elias7

(4,008 posts)
17. Agreed...
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 06:34 AM
Sep 2012

The statement is ambiguous, and it is unclear to me exactly what the guy means. I was surprised when I read the statement, expecting something more directly stating "rape". But this statement is something I've heard before.... in college.... from the mouths of poor ignorant swaggering football playing type guys who upon first real life exposure to a lesbian, come out with a statement like that. Rape was not the implication. I don't think they even knew what they meant. They just couldn't wrap their head around the idea yet. Hopefully, most have evolved somewhat.

And speaking of evolved, I believe in being able to disagree without getting raped by the person who can't fathom your differing opinion.

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
36. If you had heard the show, you'd know that "Dieter" is the frat boy you describe.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:50 AM
Oct 2012

His character is the perpetual frat boy. Beer-drinking, weight-lifting, womanizing juvenile.

Having heard the show, I can assure you that you're correct. It was a frat boy statement, not a call for rape.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
56. This is much worse than frat boys meeting their first lesbian and their bigoted views
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:52 PM
Oct 2012

You do realize that too many bigots think you can either pray the gay away or even worse like advocating to someone that “You should get one of your friends to screw your daughter straight.”
Unfortunately I know the pain of such bigotry personally.

aandegoons

(473 posts)
21. Um isn't that the definition of rape?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 09:17 AM
Sep 2012

He is not her and she is the only one who has a choice on who "screws" her. And it seems she has chosen it not to be men.

Seems like rape to me.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
49. Sorry, I don't agree.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:07 PM
Oct 2012

It would be non consensual sex if his daughter was a lesbian and that is the definition of rape. Just because he was the words "screw your daughter straight" it still implies rape

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
19. Unfortunately "therapeutic rape" has a long and disgusting history, and happens all the time
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 08:41 AM
Sep 2012

So it almost certainly has actually happened (rather than just being advocated) since this incident.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
23. Because such a traumatic experience would definitely leave the person feeling positive about
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:24 PM
Sep 2012

heterosexual sex.

Like forcing them to eat tainted broccoli in the hopes that food poisoning will make them love veggies.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
24. And yet, his audience, of TrueChristians™ no doubt –
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 05:36 PM
Sep 2012

most likely find this "advice" appropriate.

Sick fucks.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
26. Update
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 05:46 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.towleroad.com/2012/04/cleveland-dj-dominic-dieter-apologizes-for-telling-man-he-should-have-his-possibly-gay-daughter-rape.html

"I just wanted to say that, I know on the show this past Friday I made some comments that people found….. considered to be offensive. And I just wanted to say, I understand why people are angry. I want to genuinely apologize to anyone who may have been offended by what I said. I regret what I did say. My comments were inappropriate. They were inexcusable, and just downright stupid. And I want to make it clear; there was absolutely no intention to promote physical or sexual violence. And I’m truly; truly sorry by my poor choice of words that led people to believe otherwise. Again, Rover… I just want to apologize for any pain I might have caused. (...) I ask people to find it in their hearts to forgive me. I am sorry for the words that I did say."
 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
27. I live in Cleveland and am familiar with the "Rover's Morning Glory" radio show.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 05:57 PM
Sep 2012

The "Deiter" character on the show is a weightlifting, hard-drinking partier http://www.roverradio.com/user/68-dieter . The show is a low-key shock-jock enterprise, geared to produce controversy.

As somebody familiar with the show, I have two comments to the OP:

1) It's a radio show specifically designed to create controversy.

2) The characterization that there was a call to rape anybody is a serious stretch. It just didn't happen. Even if ANY reference to rape had been made, this is a "shock jock" show. The radio personalities are intentionally playing controversial roles.

Those outraged by this need to take a step back and see it for what it is...an attention-getting ratings game.

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
31. Other than the fact that he never called for anybody to be raped? Nope.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 08:23 PM
Sep 2012

You people really need to lighten up a bit.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
46. The fuck he didn't.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:29 PM
Oct 2012

Rape is generally defined as non-consensual sexual contact. Given that this women is a lesbian, the odds that she would consent to letting this shithead's male friends "screw her straight" are pretty much fucking zero. Either that, or it's another example if the homophobic "thinking" that says that inside every lesbian is a straight chick who just needs a little dick. Either way, wholly in-fucking-defensible.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
53. "You people"?
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:25 PM
Oct 2012

You people need to get the fuck off this board. And you know exactly what kind of people you are.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
57. Pretty hard for me to fucking lighten up.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:10 PM
Oct 2012

You what to know what the asshole said to my daughter just before he raped her? After she had repeatedly rebuffed is sexual advances, telling him she was gay. The asshole told her "you just haven't met the right man yet". Oh but it gets worse, they were co-workers and he claimed it was consensual. This happened 18 years ago when it was Even harder for GLBT community to get justice from our legal system. the DA declined to prosecute citing lack of evidence. This asshole went free and it turned out he had a history of sexual harassment at work. So FUCK me all to hell if I don't lighten up.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
44. I would like you to imagine for a minute
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 02:01 PM
Oct 2012

that instead of corrective rape of a lesbian, which it should be noted is a very real thing in places such as Uganda, he had advocated having a daughter involved in an interracial relationship fucked by a person of the same race so she would stop dating blacks. I bet he would be off the air so fast your and my head would spin. I think the same standard should apply here.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
48. You Do Understand, Sir, This Is Bullshit, And What Was Called For Is Rape By Definition
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:04 PM
Oct 2012

A prime characteristic of being lesbian is, shall we say, a disinclination to heterosexual intercourse. Typically, if asked by a man to engage in coitus, a lesbian will say no thanks, or simply no way. Therefore what the jerk you are defending was doing was calling for a person to be subjected to vaginal penetration without her consent, against her will, and this ( one hates to break it to you ) is the textbook definition of rape.

So you are, in fact, defending a call to rape a young lesbian, and you had better get used to being regarded here as someone who defends rape, because this is unlikely to be forgotten, and there is no doubt whatever that is what you are doing.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
50. What the hell do you think "screw your daughter straight" implies?
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:20 PM
Oct 2012

It's non-consensual sex and that my friend is rape.

"Screw" your excuse to justify this offensive statement.

FYI, My daughter's co-worker used much the same line just before he raped her. He told her "she just hadn't met the right man".

Your post defending this shit statement is very offensive and in my opinion very bigoted.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
32. The guy needs to lose his job, plain and simple...
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 08:24 PM
Sep 2012

This is NOT entertainment. Suggesting that a man have a male friend have (forced) intercourse with his daughter because she is showing signs of being a lesbian is not funny or entertaining. It is suggesting rape. I doubt the girl is going to tell her Dad's buddy "Fred", oh go ahead and fuck me hard. Whether she is lesbian or not she will not consent to this uninvited sexual advance.

These guys feign being terrified of a gay man in the shower or foxhole next to them because he might come on to them. That must be read as their fear of having a gay sexual encounter forced on them. But they don't think anything of suggesting to have a heterosexual encounter forced on someone who may be gay or lesbian.

All I can say is heaven help us with people like this out on the airwaves.

jmondine

(1,649 posts)
33. A-Freaking-Men
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 09:50 PM
Sep 2012

This goes beyond losing a few sponsors or even temporary suspension. The promotion of violence against children has no place on our airwaves.

Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #32)

Shuhered

(200 posts)
39. Showering with Men
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:35 AM
Oct 2012

I agree with you. In the Navy, I was in the Saudi Desert for upwards of a year. Showering with men ( who knew I'm gay) was never more than a comical issue as I did once drop the soap. The dudes loved the laugh and there was no hate. In MY unit anyway, guys were close knit based on the absolute necessity to protect each other and that we did well.

Shuhered

(200 posts)
38. Sociopath
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:30 AM
Oct 2012

The sickening thing about anti-gay people is that, somehow, the Bible is thought to justify their sociopathic ideas. While I don't know of a passage addressing the repeated rape of
one's daughter to turn her straight, as a gay man, I do know that this is a felonious act. Also, it stems from a mentally stunted mind that we need not allow on the air. Freedom of speech does not cover the right to aid or abet in any communication of or act of sexual violence. To even suggest so heinous an act is to out oneself as a man with sociopathic leanings which is very unsettling.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
41. From South Africa
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:20 AM
Oct 2012
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-27/world/world_wus-sa-rapes_1_lesbians-sexual-orientation-cape-town?_s=PM:WORLD

It is called 'corrective rape' - where men force themselves on lesbians believing it will change their sexual orientation.

The extent of the problem is hard to know as South African police do not compile corrective rape statistics separately from other rape cases.

BeeBee

(1,074 posts)
43. Why in the hell would a man email a "shock jock" and tell him that he suspected
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:37 AM
Oct 2012

that his daughter is gay?

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
51. Because he's an asshole?
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:33 PM
Oct 2012

Your question is a good one, and I just can't find a more appropriate answer (although somewhat understated).

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