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King_David

(14,851 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:54 PM Apr 2015

Muslims murder Palestinians

While the Israeli Defense Force were storming into Gaza the streets of Europe were overrun with demonstrators. There were virtual riots outside of the Israeli embassy in London, tens of thousands of people marched there in support of Palestinians as they did in Paris, Madrid and elsewhere. With every march came cries that the IDF were perpetrating a massacre in Gaza. The pictures of dead Palestinian children filled Facebook feeds.

There was no massacre of Palestinians at the hands of the IDF last Summer. But in Syria there is. Right now as you read this. But you would be forgiven for being unaware of it. For this time there aren’t tens of thousands demonstrating on the streets. There are no demonstrations at all. There are no rallies. There are no screams of massacre. There are no demands on governments to take action.

There is simply a sad, deafening silence.

It’s not as if people don’t know what’s happening in the largest Palestinian refugee camp in Syria, Yarmouk. The story took pride of place on Sky News, it has been published by every major newspaper around the world. Yet there is no action. The heat, the friction, the activism of the Summer is nowhere to be found.


http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/when-muslims-murder-palestinians/

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Muslims murder Palestinians (Original Post) King_David Apr 2015 OP
Of course there's no Jews involved... So... King_David Apr 2015 #1
There's also no King_Davids cheering for Daesh. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #2
Another deflection. The point is that the "pro-Palestinian" movement.... shira Apr 2015 #3
Whatever that means... King_David Apr 2015 #4
Is the outright evil of ISIL a matter of controversy? geek tragedy Apr 2015 #5
So better to ignore it I guess ? King_David Apr 2015 #6
Who is ignoring it (besides the Israeli government that is)? geek tragedy Apr 2015 #7
To keep on topic of this OP and not se other tangent you wish to take us on King_David Apr 2015 #8
No, it's because it's in Damascus and there ain't crap anyone can do about it nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #9
"Our friends the Israelis have been giving low key support to al-Nusra." oberliner Apr 2015 #27
Technically, Israel is helping only al-Nusra. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #29
Technically? There's nothing in your links supporting your wild claim. n/t shira Apr 2015 #31
reading is fundamental. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #32
Oh noes! Caught red-handed! But seriously, that's it? n/t shira Apr 2015 #33
Sickening political opportunism on display here azurnoir Apr 2015 #10
Your understanding of Political opportunism King_David Apr 2015 #11
what uncomfortable facts? the tragedy in Yarmouk is part of a much larger tragedy in all of Syria azurnoir Apr 2015 #12
+1 n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #13
Yarmouk is just 1 of many examples proving Israel bashers.... shira Apr 2015 #14
seeing that your sources call 15 to 21 year olds children when Hamas is in question azurnoir Apr 2015 #15
You're desperately trying to deflect from the FACT that Israel bashers.... shira Apr 2015 #16
wasn't desperate it was true and easy at that azurnoir Apr 2015 #19
I provided you 10 examples other than Yarmouk, proving those.... shira Apr 2015 #20
10 examples we've seen before. you've sited sources claiming 21 yr olds as children when it suits azurnoir Apr 2015 #23
11 examples proving the point, which you cannot refute shira Apr 2015 #25
I'm adding a 12th now, just for you WRT an imaginary lawful RoR.... shira Apr 2015 #30
Wow talk about Political Opportunism King_David Apr 2015 #17
That does seem to be the case with this and other OP's azurnoir Apr 2015 #18
Yes do all stop that please. nt King_David Apr 2015 #21
I haven't run any OP's about how Yarmouk proves this or that have I azurnoir Apr 2015 #22
Thankfully others did post OPs even though s lot of people don't want to discuss King_David Apr 2015 #24
people protesting state sponsored terrorism on the RedstDem Apr 2015 #26
And We're Already Fighting Those Terrorists wellst0nev0ter Apr 2015 #28
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
3. Another deflection. The point is that the "pro-Palestinian" movement....
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:30 AM
Apr 2015

....is unmoved by the murder of Palestinians when Jews cannot be blamed for it. With friends like the BDS degenerates from Mondoweiss, Electronic Intifada, FreeGaza, and the Palestinian Solidarity Committee, the Palestinians don't need enemies.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Is the outright evil of ISIL a matter of controversy?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:44 AM
Apr 2015

If Israel wants to be held to the same standards as ISIL, that's pretty sad.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. Who is ignoring it (besides the Israeli government that is)?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:24 PM
Apr 2015

Our friends the Israelis have been giving low key support to al-Nusra.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
8. To keep on topic of this OP and not se other tangent you wish to take us on
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:28 PM
Apr 2015

Where's the outrage , where's the world condemnation , where's the world empathy , flotilla, even support?


It's missing in action and not because of Israel but because there's no Jews involved.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. "Our friends the Israelis have been giving low key support to al-Nusra."
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 07:19 AM
Apr 2015

This is the new "associate Israel with everything evil" approach.

Apparently now the thing to do is claim Israel supports the IS.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
32. reading is fundamental.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:49 AM
Apr 2015

In addition to Israel giving al-Nusra a de facto no-fly zone:

According to a UN report covering the period from March to May 2014, the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF) detected contact between rebels and the Israeli army across the Golan cease-fire line, particularly during fierce clashes between the Syrian army and the rebels. The report also confirmed that the UN forces spotted rebels transporting 89 wounded across the cease-fire line into the Israeli occupied zone, where they were handed over 19 people who had received medical treatment in addition to two dead. The UN forces also noted that the Israeli army delivered two boxes to rebels on the Syrian side of the Golan Heightss.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
10. Sickening political opportunism on display here
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:14 PM
Apr 2015

there is no silence on Yarmouk which as most literate people know is latest chapter in horrible tragedy that has been on going in Syria, Yarmouk was only made "sexy" for the M$M only recently and only because of the involvement of IS

King_David

(14,851 posts)
11. Your understanding of Political opportunism
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:51 PM
Apr 2015

Is highlighting inconvenient facts ?

Uncomfortable facts?

No outrage here nothing to see move along before this inconvenience takes some spotlight off the Jewish state?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
12. what uncomfortable facts? the tragedy in Yarmouk is part of a much larger tragedy in all of Syria
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:55 PM
Apr 2015

yet we see it being jumped on as an excuse to demonize those who would see Palestinians have their own state and there for be freed from victimhood this is a part of, while at the same time the Israeli government uses the perpetrators of this latest assault on humanity in Yarmouk that being IS, as an excuse to keep the victims right where they are

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
14. Yarmouk is just 1 of many examples proving Israel bashers....
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 06:20 PM
Apr 2015

....couldn't care less about Palestinians. It's not demonizing if it's 100% absolute truth. It's legit criticism.

Israel bashers don't care about...

1. Women under Hamas rule and PLO rule.
2. Children abused under Hamas rule (like the 170 who died digging tunnels under Gaza).
3. Minorities under both Hamas and PLO rule.
4. Gays under both Hamas and PLO rule.
4. Refugees living under miserable, apartheid rule outside of Israel.
5. Hamas' use of human shields in densely populated areas to attack Israel
6. Hamas' use of child militants
7. Hamas firing rockets that land within Gaza, killing Palestinians
8. Hamas murdering political foes
9. Hamas and the PLO brainwashing little kids through state-controlled media to become murderers and martyrs.
10. Hamas using cement & material for tunnels rather than building homes, schools, etc.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
15. seeing that your sources call 15 to 21 year olds children when Hamas is in question
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 06:32 PM
Apr 2015

calls a number of your claims into question, being Gay was legal in Jordan and the West Bank more than 30 years before it was in Israel, no Israeli have ever been killed by friendly fire.... oh wait
Israel has never murdered it's political foes and in Israel's case the wives and children are usually killed too
do you really want me to go on with this?

and do you understand international law where refugees are concerned or re you still complaining because Arab countries won't solve Israel's problem with Palestinian refugees?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
16. You're desperately trying to deflect from the FACT that Israel bashers....
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 06:45 PM
Apr 2015

....don't really give a shit about Palestinians.

They're Israel haters, not pro-Palestinian.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
20. I provided you 10 examples other than Yarmouk, proving those....
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:01 PM
Apr 2015

...who claim to be pro-Palestinian are nothing of the sort.

You posted absolutely nothing that refutes that. Nothing that shows pro-Palestinian Israel bashers care about Palestinians when Israel is not involved. The simple fact is that when Israel cannot be blamed, Israel haters are silent and cannot be bothered by oppressed, abused, or murdered Palestinians. Not just WRT Yarmouk, but at least 10 other examples.

I forgot about this...

and do you understand international law where refugees are concerned or re you still complaining because Arab countries won't solve Israel's problem with Palestinian refugees?


There is no international law stating that children and grandchildren of refugees inherit refugee status.

There isn't even an international law demanding Israel takes in all original Palestinian refugees.

So obviously you don't understand international law.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
23. 10 examples we've seen before. you've sited sources claiming 21 yr olds as children when it suits
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:10 PM
Apr 2015

a certain agenda I'm neither moved nor impressed

and another question

you could post this stuff in GD as Yarmouk is big news but don't why is that?

and oh there is no international law stating that those born to refugees are not themselves refugees either

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
25. 11 examples proving the point, which you cannot refute
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 06:05 AM
Apr 2015

I don't know about 21 year old "children", which is ridiculous. But are you denying Hamas uses actual children as militants or just deflecting from the fact?

there is no international law stating that those born to refugees are not themselves refugees either


A logical fallacy is all you have now?

Hilarious.



 

shira

(30,109 posts)
30. I'm adding a 12th now, just for you WRT an imaginary lawful RoR....
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:24 AM
Apr 2015

An internationally recognized RoR rooted in International Law (involving millions of descendants who supposedly inherit refugee status) is non-existent. An imaginary fairy tale that will never happen.

And yet every BDS'er I've ever run into believes it's best for refugees to rot in camps under horrible conditions rather than get on with life and live normally.

It's not that BDS'ers hate Israel or Jews. It's worse....

They hate Palestinians more than some (probably most) of the worst bigots who hate Arabs. I'm not convinced there are many Kahanist-style ghouls who wish this kind of harm on millions of people. Reminds me of "I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy...".

Yet another reason BDS is among the most rotten, vile movements on the planet today.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. That does seem to be the case with this and other OP's
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 06:52 PM
Apr 2015

using the tragedy at Yarmouk to further an agenda is beyond disgusting IMO

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
22. I haven't run any OP's about how Yarmouk proves this or that have I
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:06 PM
Apr 2015

I did run one in LBN , it concerned the PLO allegedly endorsing Assad's efforts to drive IS out of Yarmouk, what gets spun out of that would be interesting if not so predictable

King_David

(14,851 posts)
24. Thankfully others did post OPs even though s lot of people don't want to discuss
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:56 PM
Apr 2015

This disgraceful tragedy because it doesn't fit their "Israeli Jews are the real bad one"
Narrative.

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
26. people protesting state sponsored terrorism on the
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 07:03 AM
Apr 2015

Part of Israel upsets you. So you want to point to the lack of protests against non state sponsored terrorism as proof of anti semitism on the part of the protesters.

I need a drink.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
28. And We're Already Fighting Those Terrorists
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 07:48 AM
Apr 2015

So... maybe that post is aimed toward people who support the Islamic State but claims to support the Palestinians as well?

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