Palestinian groups face $218m Israel attacks fine in US

[Jefferson23]

A US court in New York has found the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Palestinian Authority liable for attacks in Israel over 10 years ago.

Six attacks in and around Jerusalem killed 33 people and wounded hundreds more during the second Palestinian intifada between 2002 and 2004.

The jury awarded victims of the attacks more than $218m.

The Palestinian groups expressed dismay at the court's decision and vowed they would appeal.

As some of the victims were American citizens, the lawsuit was filed in a US court.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31582463

[Mosby]

1. $655.5 million actually

[azurnoir]

3. so you woohoo financially breaking the Palestinians because that is what Shurat HaDins mission is

and they get both their cases and evidence from the Israeli government, for thse sort of cases and when they act as defense team for IDF accused of crimes against Palestinians

The heart of the case that Shurat Hadin and Kent Yalowitz of Arnold & Porter LLP have brought on behalf of 11 victims’ families is a move to sue the PA for its alleged involvement in seven terrorist attacks from 2001-2004 during the second intifada.


http://israellawcenter.org/in-the-media-items/first-us-terrorism-trial-against-pa-begins-today/

[King_David]

4. Think average USA citizen will view the jury as having found the PA and PLO

Guilty and liable .

Think it matters who the Shurat Hadin are?

The Jury found them guilty.

As they are ....

Appeals are possible , it is a democracy.


GUILTY

[azurnoir]

5. and the appeals are forthcoming indeed

and I think very few of the US papers reporting on this story mentioned Shurat HaDin, the Washington Post did but only after the fact

will it matter I would think that would depend on ones political leanings

[King_David]

8. I'm sure democratic party reps and officials will applaud.

Those political leanings ?

[azurnoir]

10. it's really not their purview the Democratic State Department on the other hand.......

[King_David]

12. Purview or not it will be supported

[azurnoir]

15. and ? this is business of the state department

[King_David]

17. So what ? It will be supported

[azurnoir]

21. As I said it's the state departments concern

[King_David]

24. As I said this verdict will be supported

By Democratic Party reps and candidates

[azurnoir]

26. we'll see how many speak out publically I'd think domestic issues would be of concern to them though

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

29. So the family of Rachel Corrie has just as much right to sue Israel in a US court then?

[King_David]

30. They should try

But Israel has investigated that extensively, PLO and PA not so much....

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

32. "But Israel has investigated that extensively,"

Just like all their other war crimes...

[King_David]

35. The PA and PLO found guilty.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

39. In the USA, so Israel should be tried there a well.

[King_David]

40. If they got a case they should try...

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

41. We'll see.

[King_David]

2. I guess those stipends for murder was not such a good idea

[azurnoir]

6. you mean payments made to the families of those found guilty in a closed IDF court or those

who did not make it there? tell us do you approve of Israel's demolitions of the family homes of those found guilty of terrorism?

[King_David]

9. I don't feel like answering any esoteric tangential question

But I will say paying a stipend for mass murder is bottom of the barrel and if anyone in any civilized place ever did that they should get life in prison as an accomplice.

[azurnoir]

11. so giving financial support to families of those found guilty in a military court is wrong?

[King_David]

13. Giving money for mass murder is criminal

Same as those bankrolling ISIS , locked up forever and money confiscated.

[azurnoir]

14. so financially supporting children and wives is the same as helping ISIS

because of who the father/husband is?

[King_David]

16. If somebody bankrolls terrorism

Even if Jews are the victims or Coptic Christians or Gays the accomplices paying for the mass murder should be locked up forever and their money confiscated.

[azurnoir]

18. My question was about the families because that is who the money goes to why the aviodence?

bankroll you mean Abbas paid them to do murder people, so they did it?

[King_David]

19. So these mass murderers are being bribed by their accomplice

And handlers to mass murder as many Jews as possible with a reward to their families?

Imagine the USA allowing Anyone to pay a huge stipend to the families of Osama Bin Ladin for work well done .

Not gonna happen anywhere civilized.

[azurnoir]

20. so the families of the accused should suffer right along with them?

so you claim Abbas bribed the accused perpetrators to commit these acts?

[King_David]

23. A Jury thought so

If anyone paid Osama Bin Ladins family money I believe the reaction would be the same.

[azurnoir]

25. so you clap for children suffering for the actions of their fathers?least that's the smilie

well okay then and BTW Bin Lauden had his own money and in no way was living under the same conditions as Palestinian under occupation, he was a wealthy elitist

[King_David]

27. I support punishing mass murderers

Supporting paying these murderers or their families stipends or rewards for killing Jews is outrageous and thankfully never be accepted by any civilized culture.
It doesn't happen in civilized cultures and not is killing gays accepted in any civilized culture either.

[azurnoir]

28. so it's yes I take it the families should suffer too

Supporting paying these murderers or their families stipends or rewards for killing Jews is outrageous and thankfully never be accepted by any civilized culture.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113496107#post27

so civilized cultures support making children suffer for what their father did?

[King_David]

31. No body should benefit from the actions and avails of murdering Jews

NOBODY...

What part do you not get. Your support is offensive and outrageous....and would never be accepted by our Democratic Party EVER...I am surprised to see such support here for paying someone or his wife or his children or his friend or lover a reward for mass murder of Jewish children (Dolphinerium Disco ---Google it )

[azurnoir]

33. so now you claim I support murdering Jews?

The perpetrators of these acts have already been brought to justice they are either dead for the most part or in prison, not even the families of 9/11 victims get to sue the Saudi's, usually justice is considered as being served when the people that actually physically committed the crime are punished

No body should benefit from the actions and avails of murdering Jews

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NOBODY...

What part do you not get. Your support is offensive and outrageous....and would never be accepted by our Democratic Party EVER...I am surprised to see such support here for paying someone or his wife or his children or his friend or lover a reward for mass murder of Jewish children (Dolphinerium Disco ---Google it )

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113496107#post31

[King_David]

34. Saudis if paying for murder of Americans

Should be sued max and if proven tripled just like the mass murders bankrolled in Palestine and now proven .

[azurnoir]

36. Nothing was proven it was a civil trial which is different from a criminal one

nothing had to be proven

[King_David]

37. Jury came through

[azurnoir]

38. even that remains to be seen or at least for how much, like I said the 9/11 victims got no such

consideration

[shaayecanaan]

7. Can't fault the plaintiffs

If someone I knew was killed in one of those attacks I would feel exactly the same way.

They're not going to get anything near the award. The Palestinian Monetary Authority held $30 million in the US the last time this happened, but if they have any brains this time they would have reduced that substantially.

The lawyers have mentioned enforcing the judgment elsewhere (in other jurisdictions where US judgments can be enforced). I think that they will find that tricky.

[azurnoir]

22. I could almost see Israel handing the tax money it's with holding over to the families

in this case the legality of such a move would matter very little