Bipartisan momentum grows for halt to U.S. funding of Palestinian Authority

[King_David]

U.S. Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Robert Menendez (D-NJ), Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Mark Kirk (R-IL), and Bob Corker (R-TN) on Friday released a joint statement calling on the U.S. government to defund the Palestinian Authority (PA) over its decision to join the International Criminal Court (ICC).

At the same time, three Republican senators who are rumored to be running for president in 2016—Marco Rubio (FL), Rand Paul (KY), and Ted Cruz (TX)—have similar stances on how the ICC bid should affect American funding to the PA, with Paul going so far as initiating a bill to end that funding.

The PA will become the 123rd member of the ICC on April 1, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon announced Jan. 6. But for the Palestinians’ membership to become official, the ICC must make a decision on the legal question of whether or not the PA has the status of a state.

http://www.jns.org/latest-articles/2015/1/9/bipartisan-momentum-grows-for-halt-to-us-funding-of-palestinian-authority#.VL29nMY-Ci4=

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

1. About JNS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JNS.org

Political Leaning[edit]

At least two of three of JNS's board members are involved with conservative organizations. Their small board of directors includes Joshua and Amelia Katzen along with the publisher, Russel Pergament. Joshua Katzen sits on the boards of CAMERA, a pro-Israel media watch organization, and the Middle East Forum, a conservative think tank. In addition, he is President of REPORT, which was previously American Friends of NGO Monitor. Some say the content on JNS have a conservative leaning. However, the article goes on to quote Russel Pergament as writing “JNS is a nonpartisan, objective, straight down the middle newswire with no axe to grind except one: to see that Israel gets a fair shake in the news,” [18]

Know them by their works.

[King_David]

2. From your article "“JNS is a nonpartisan, objective, straight down the middle newswire "

Thanks for highlighting it.

When it comes to Israel and support its not a right or left issue.

Almost every single democratic party Rep and senator are über Zionist supporters.

I'm very proud to volunteer on Democratic Party campaigns, 6 people of this group could never do if they revealed their opinion toward Israel.

A Democratic Party campaign would fire somebody the same day for any kind of support for BDS or sanctioning Israel .

Proud of my party ... Proud DU supporter.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. I'm sure that FOX News contributors

describe their news outlet is similar language...nonpartisan, objective, straight down the middle newswire "

No?

Are you proud if the Israeli apartheid state, dave? You are in record, IMHO, as being against the illegal settlements. Is that right? So, if you proclaimed that tidbit if information to the Democratic campaigns you purportedly have worked on how long would you last I wonder?

[King_David]

5. Of course I'm a proud Zionist

And have the same political outlook toward Israel as the Democratic Party which I supp.

You?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

6. I'll ask again, dave...

Are you proud of the Israeli apartheid state, dave? You are in record, IMHO, as being against the illegal settlements. Is that right? So, if you proclaimed that tidbit if information to the Democratic campaigns you purportedly have worked on how long would you last I wonder?

[King_David]

7. Israel is not an Apartheid state

The motives of anyone making such a claim are questionable.

Same as BDS bunch like Greta Berlin their leader who has no connection whatsoever to the Palestinian people except for her hatred of Jews..usual story.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/113492771

[azurnoir]

8. First off Berlin is again not a BDS leader as you keep claiming

she is one of the founders of free gaza however and Israel in it's colonized territories treat 2 peoples differently according to their Religious / ethnic / 'citizenship' background and officially handed out laws do amount to apartheid, now go ahead make excuses, justifications, quibble semantics whatever pleases today not much works anymore

[King_David]

10. Greta Berlin is a major BDS leader

And like almost all BDS leaders who have no connection to the "struggle", the occupation has very little to do with their militancy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=85328

[azurnoir]

13. a link to your own thread where you but not your OP make the same claim?

[King_David]

15. BDS in general , has the history

Remember the severed pigs head the BDS movement left behind in the Jewish kosher Supermarket ?

What's with bigoted Jew Hating individuals and movements and Kosher supermarkets anyway?

[azurnoir]

17. you mean the one they left in a Woolworths in South Africa?

so Woolworth's SA is a kosher market? 'Cause their site looks much like their now defunct US conterpart

http://www.woolworths.co.za/

But a pigs head was left by some some wannabe BDSers near some Israeli import hummus

here is a link to the thread just in case

Star Member King_David (10,613 posts)

South African BDS Activists Target Woolworths Kosher Food Section With Severed Pigs Head

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113485033

[King_David]

19. "Woolworths Kosher Food Section "

So what's your point again ?

😄

[azurnoir]

21. But that isn't what you originally said is it?

Star Member King_David (10,615 posts)
15. BDS in general , has the history

Remember the severed pigs head the BDS movement left behind in the Jewish kosher Supermarket ?

What's with bigoted Jew Hating individuals and movements and Kosher supermarkets anyway?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=93103

[King_David]

29. LOL

If there's a point there I don't get it...




What is with these anti Jewish bigots and kosher supermarkets anyway?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

16. That's strange that an educated person

would have that opinion, dave.

It is a fact that Israel separates the Palestinians in many ways. Walls, roads, settlements, laws, confiscations are all designed to separate the Palestinians from the Israelis, their own lands and their sense of being...kind of like the old ghettos in Europe where Jews were quartered.

It is a fact that there are two sets of laws for illegal Israelis and Palestinians in the West Bank.

It is a fact that Israel has been colonizing the West Bank for some time in contravention of international law.

Those things smell of apartheid, dave, but what is more puzzling is how you can shake your head when fact after fact, article after article is posted showing the trappings of apartheid.

Are you against the illegal Israeli settlements, dave?

If you are then how can you be blind to the truth in front if you?

Perhaps you are not being honest about your opinion in the light of facts?

[King_David]

18. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=93090

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

25. That was a rather weak-kneed reponse, dave.

I would suggest that you really do stand for the illegal settlements, IMHO dave, but you can always prove me wrong by saying so.

[oberliner]

20. Do you make a distinction between Israel itself and the occupied territories?

That is to say, would you argue that the term applies within Israel proper or just in relation to Israel's behavior in the West Bank?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

26. Aren't you so dainty with the wrong-headed ownership nonsense.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

28. Do you consider the Israeli settlers in the West Bank illegal or not, dave?

[King_David]

30. We were talking about how the BDS movement

Is motivated by hatred of Jews.

Not a tangential topic that you decide to talk about .

I believe in a 2 state solution with Israel withdrawing from most of the west bank and establishment of the State of Palestine.

I also believe the Palestinians, if they want their state will have to compromise on East Jerusalem- life may not be fair but that is the only outcome possible.

I believe the Palistinians are sincere in their struggle . I think Jews and Muslims and Palestinians and Israelis all have a horse in this race.

I question the motives of the Western White armchair "pro Palestinian " "militants" who are more involved than the real Palestinians and leaders of BDS such as Greta Berlin confirm our suspicions.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

31. You sidestepped a yes or no question, dave.

Do you consider the Israeli settlers in the West Bank illegal or not, dave?

Yes, or no?

[King_David]

32. Most settlements will be dismantled and evacuated in the creation of a 2 state solution

Which is the right thing to do.

Weather legal or not is irrelevant and there is no answer to that question as such.

The occupation is not illegal but still must end as soon as possible.

I am in favor of The Geneva Accord.

This conflict is far more complicated than a simple yes or no answer that people who do not really understand the complexities may demand.

I can suggest more sources for your self study if you wish ?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

33. "The occupation is not illegal but still must end as soon as possible. "

Well why would it need to end, in your opinion, if it isn't illegal?

And occupation is different than colonization.

[King_David]

35. Just because something is legal doesn't make it moral or ethical…

The exact same reason that an independent Palestinian state must be created and the land not just giving back to Jordan from which Israel is occupying it.

I know these things are difficult to understand for someone new to this topic are not involved in it.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

36. But those things that are claimed legal by the well armed few can also later be deemed

as purely immoral, unethical and completely illegal by the many: such as South African Apartheid...and now the Israeli variety.

[King_David]

37. There is no such thing as I explained earlier

Gréta Berlin I'm sure would not agree with what I said.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

38. "There is no such thing as I explained earlier" You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your

facts.

[azurnoir]

9. What 6 people would tht be? amd that's only the first question of many

secondly are you claiming ht these people would be investigated an if so by who? What would be done with such information and by who? oh and while you're at it be sure to write Keith Ellison and Betty McCollum with this I'm sure they'll be quite interested

oh while you're such a proud DU supporter perhaps you should consider MIRT the sign up is coming in the nex week or so and you seem to spend a good deal of here too so why not?

King_David
2. From your article "“JNS is a nonpartisan, objective, straight down the middle newswire "

View profile
Thanks for highlighting it.

When it comes to Israel and support its not a right or left issue.

Almost every single democratic party Rep and senator are über Zionist supporters.

I'm very proud to volunteer on Democratic Party campaigns, 6 people of this group could never do if they revealed their opinion toward Israel.

A Democratic Party campaign would fire somebody the same day for any kind of support for BDS or sanctioning Israel .

Proud of my party ... Proud DU supporter.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113493056#post2

[King_David]

11. Answers:

Look around

No

Don't want to

[azurnoir]

12. you're going to have to be much more clear than that unless of course

you either for some reason can not or are willing to back up your own claims but why would that be?

[King_David]

14. I don't really "have to be" much anything

😃

[azurnoir]

22. No you don't I guess, but that too speaks volumes at least IMO

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

27. Enjoy your stay here.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

34. I guess that they didn't.

Bye bye.

[oberliner]

3. That almost seems like deflecting

But I may not fully understand the term.

[Ken Burch]

39. It's not as if any good would come from the PA going out of existence.

Making Palestinians start all over again serves no purpose.

The PA has its flaws, but Palestine does have to become an independent country sometime. The Likud-Beitenyu-Naftali Bennett fantasy of forcing Palestinians to choose between exile abroad or statelessness at home is never going to happen.

[shaayecanaan]

40. i am tempted to disagree

i think at the very least the collapse of the pa would force israel to shoulder the burden and expense of their own occupation.