Combining contradictions does not work

[Jefferson23]

Hani Al-Masri

Wednesday, 19 November 2014

During this month, perhaps on the 29th day, which marks the anniversary of the decision to divide Palestine and is the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian people, the Jordanian representative at the UN is scheduled to represent the Palestinian people and the Arab Group to request that the Security Council vote on a draft resolution demanding an end to the occupation within a specified timeframe.

Regardless of the fate of the request and whether or not it will receive the nine votes required for it to be passed, or if the US will veto it or abstain from voting, especially if modifications are made to the resolution that are approved or rejected by the Arabs, I find it useful to review the course of the so-called "peace process" since the failure of Camp David.

Since May 1999, which marks the end of the period specified by the Oslo Accords to reach a final peace agreement, and after the failure of the Camp David Summit, the Second Intifada, which was desired by the Palestinian and the Israeli sides in order to achieve their objectives, broke out.

Ehud Barak began the aggression, following Sharon's provocative visit, which was the spark that ignited the Intifada, and committed a massacre during the early days of the Intifada. Yasser Arafat also supported the Intifada because he saw it as a means to improve the conditions for negotiations in a manner that would allow for reaching an agreement that would reinforce the Camp David summit.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/middle-east/15362-combining-contradictions-does-not-work

[Shaktimaan]

1. Interesting stuff

The Israelis also desired the second intifada? Which was started by Barak, when he committed a massacre, several days into the intifada?

This stuff is fascinating. I never knew Barak committed a massacre. Or that the intifada had been going on for several days before there was any aggression.

But what I'd really like to know is how this guy knows that Arafat was murdered by poison. How can he rule out the laser beam theory that has an equal amount of evidence supporting it?

[King_David]

2. Exactly

LOL

[shira]

3. Hilarious. This lunacy makes Arutz-Sheva op-eds look sane. n/t

[Jefferson23]

4. Then feel free to refute anything you like. Let me know where you would like to begin.

Arafat's death and this gentleman's opinion accepting this? He has a right to his opinion based
on what has been reviewed independently.

Mouin Rabbani
MERIP
6.11.2013
The release of the Swiss Institut de Radiophysique’s Experts Forensic Report Concerning the Late President Yasser Arafat has lent further credence to the proposition that the iconic Palestinian leader’s 2004 demise was an act of Sharon rather than of God or nature. Speaking to the Guardian, forensic scientist David Barclay concluded the report provides

[A] smoking gun.… I don’t think there’s any doubt at all.… The report provides strong evidence, in my view conclusive evidence, that there’s at least 18 times the level of polonium in Arafat’s exhumed body as there should be.… I don’t think there’s any doubt at all.

[shira]

5. Start w/ Barak's massacre leading to Intifada 2. What massacre? n/t

[Jefferson23]

7. This is what you're talking about?

Ehud Barak began the aggression, following Sharon's provocative visit, which was the spark that ignited the Intifada, and committed a massacre during the early days of the Intifada.

[shira]

9. What aggression did Barak begin that was the spark igniting the Intifada?

Even Arafat's wife admitted Arafat planned and led the Intifada well in advance.

[Jefferson23]

10. That's not what he said...that's why I asked you what you were referring to.

Arafat planned it according to his wife..you're pretty funny at times, shira.

Sharon going to the Temple Mount had nothing to do with it, huh?

[shira]

11. Suha Arafat was interviewed about Arafat's planned Intifada.....

You'll find articles all over the place about it. Funny how you disregard her testimony so casually. There's no reason for her to make that up.

Besides Suha Arafat, many of the PA's leaders said the same thing:
http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=5875

[Jefferson23]

15. Right, shira..had nothing to do with Sharon's visit. Itamar Marcus is the same level

as Arutz Sheva, your initial complaint is pretty funny too.

[shira]

12. Again, what was this aggression by Barak that sparked Intifada 2? n/t

[Jefferson23]

13. That's not what he said. n/t

[shira]

14. Okay then. What was this aggression by Barak, this massacre? n/t

[Jefferson23]

16. Where are you reading that? He is not stating that, that's why he uses the word

aggression assigned to Barak, following Sharon's visit to Temple Mount.

[oberliner]

6. Yasser Arafat died of natural causes, French investigators say

The Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat died of natural causes, French investigators have concluded. The team of scientific and medical experts found his death in 2004 was due to "old age following a generalised infection", ruling out allegations he was poisoned, it was reported on Tuesday.

Swiss scientists had previously reported "unexpectedly high activity" of radioactive polonium-210 in Arafat's body and personal effects, including his clothing, leading to accusations that he was assassinated.

On Tuesday, it was reported that the French investigators had ruled out poisoning in their report but that traces of polonium had been found.

A source told Reuters: "The results of the analyses allow us to conclude that the death was not the result of poisoning."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/03/yasser-arafat-died-natural-causes-french-investigators

Yasser Arafat investigation: Russian probe finds death not caused by radiation

MOSCOW - A Russian probe into the death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat has found that his death wasn't caused by radiation - a finding that comes after a French probe found traces of the radioactive isotope polonium and a Swiss investigation said the timeframe of his illness and death was consistent with that of polonium poisoning.

Vladimir Uiba, the head of the Federal Medical and Biological Agency, said Thursday that Arafat died of natural causes and the agency had no plans to conduct further tests.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/yasser-arafat-investigation-russian-probe-finds-death-not-caused-by-radiation/

[Jefferson23]

8. Contradictions escape you, it seems. n/t

[Shaktimaan]

17. His own opinions sure.

But not his own facts. And the opinions he holds can then be considered in any evaluation of his general trustworthiness , as is being done here. The man's beliefs about certain facts are pretty out there.

In any case I googled that quote of yours. It seems relevant that nothing in that butchered quote says anything about Sharon or poison or what "smoking gun" even refers to, or what he has no doubts at all about.

It seems odd that finklestein would reference a scientific report asserting arafat's assassination without quoting a single statement to that effect. Don't you think?