British medical journal editor ‘deeply’ regrets anti-Israel letter

[King_David]

British medical journal editor ‘deeply’ regrets anti-Israel letter
(Israel Hayom/Exclusive to JNS.org)

The editor of British medical journal The Lancet said on Thursday that he “deeply” regrets publishing an open letter this summer that accused Israel of a “massacre” in Gaza during Operation Protective Edge.

Dr. Richard Horton was invited to the Rambam Health Care Campus in Haifa to see the Israeli medical system for himself, including its treatment of Palestinians as well as Syrians wounded in their country’s civil war. Horton also gave a lecture to hundreds of Rambam doctors.
“I need very honestly to set the record straight with you,” he said. “First, I deeply, deeply, regret, the completely unnecessary polarization that publication of the letter caused. Irrespective of our intentions, which I am very happy to discuss, this outcome was definitely not my intention. Second, and contrary to some incomplete accounts of a conversation I had with a journalist recently, I was personally horrified at the offensive video [made by white supremacist David Duke] that was forwarded by two of the authors of that letter.”

http://www.sdjewishworld.com/2014/10/03/jns-news-briefs-october-3-2014/

[King_David]

1. Ha ha ha. LOL

[azurnoir]

2. But he did not retract it either he said he regretted the polarization not the letter itself

thanks for letting us know that

[King_David]

5. He was horrified -

Lol

[azurnoir]

6. at the polarization and the David Duke vid

but score one at least finally 'got' Ang Swee on something she's been a target for some time hasn't she?

[King_David]

25. Isn't it ironic that Ang was attempting to boycott Jewish Doctors

And end their careers and in the end she probably and hopefully ended her own academic career .

By Ang's own hand.

Sweet Justice.

[King_David]

7. He never retracted it and never ate a chocolate egg either

LOL

[King_David]

3. Remember all the excuses for the David Duke video here on DU ?

The editor of the lancet was horrified .


No excuse for this miserable antiSemitic POS authors , he was horrified. Unlike DU members here.





HORRIFIED !!!

[azurnoir]

8. edited is this satisfactory to you?

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what do you mean by "chocolate egg"?

[still_one]

4. He should regret it. Scientific and Medical journals should not incorporate non-scientific

and non-medical editorial views.

CERN has scientists from all over the world represented from countries whose politics and events are opposed to each other, yet the prime focus of those scientists is SCIENCE, not their governments.

Ironically, we lost the super collider being built in this country because of the anti-science views of the republicans, and they could see "no value" in the study of sub-atomic particles

[aranthus]

9. Bull.

If he was honest he would say that he regrets the bad publicity and he regrets being called names and he regrets that people are mad at him. But lying about regretting the letter only makes what he did worse.

[Scootaloo]

13. You mean he regrets being targeted for intimidation and a smear campaign

By the same anti-human fucks who gave death threats to Richard Goldstone's wife and children?

Can't imagine why that might bother someone.

[King_David]

26. Got some links for that?

?

[King_David]

10. The Lancet editor relents on medical journal’s unbalanced attacks on Israel

During Gaza war, The Lancet published a 1,600-word “Open letter for the people in Gaza” that aroused a wave of protest among advocates of Israeli around the world.

e Lancet editor Prof. Richard Horton – who has been accused for many years by pro-Israeli groups of being unfair to Israel and even “anti-Semitic” for the politics he has allowed to appear in the medical journal – seems to have repented.

At the end of his three-day visit with senior researchers and physicians at Haifa’s Rambam Medical Center, Horton said his visit to Israel was “a turning point for me and my relationship with this region.”

Horton promised to write positively in the next edition of the British journal next week.

The outcome of his visit thus holds a promise for new academic and medical collaborations that Horton has promised to support.

“I am proud and humbled to be here... I’ve learned a great deal: Rambam as a model of the partnership between Jews and Arabs; Rambam as a center offering an open hand to the people of Palestine; and Rambam as a place with a unique vision for a peaceful, productive, and diverse future among peoples,” Horton said.

Horton, who delivered a lecture to the Haifa doctors on Thursday, said he visits the Middle East yearly and sometimes several times a year because of his concern for the region. His three days of seminars and meetings with senior researchers and physicians at Rambam and the Technion’s Ruth and Bruce Rappaport Faculty of Medicine was initiated by Prof. Karl Skorecki, Rambam’s director of medical research, and director-general Prof. Rafi Beyar, a world-famous interventional cardiologist.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Health/The-Lancet-editor-relents-on-medical-journals-unbalanced-attacks-on-Israel-377937

[King_David]

11. Senior Israeli scientist resigns over Lancet’s Gaza letter

A senior Israeli scientist has resigned from an advisory board of prestigious medical journal ‘Lancet’ and accused the editor of publishing an open letter criticising Israel despite knowing that the authors had conflicts of interest.

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The Weizmann Institute of Science, where Prof. Eli Pollak is chairman of the Chemical Physics Dept

Professor Eli Pollak, Sam and Ayala Zacks, Professorial Chair and Chairman of the Chemical Physics Department at the Weizmann Institute of Science (pictured), told bosses at publishing giant Elsevier that he was resigning as a member of the Advisory Editorial Board of Chemical Physics.

In his resignation letter to the publisher’s chairman, chief executive and vice-president, Pollak said he felt saddened that he could no longer lend his name “to an organisation which has failed to uphold minimal ethical standards”.

His forced departure is the latest show of anger from within the medical profession, after the Lancet published “An open letter for the people of Gaza” on 28 July, in the middle of the conflict.

Among the 24 authors were prominent Italian geneticist Prof. Paola Manduca, British health services researcher Sir Iain Chalmers, London psychiatrist Dr. Derek Summerfied, Singaporean medic Swee Ang and Norwegian doctor Mads Gilbert.

Several of the authors went to Gaza to volunteer during the fighting, with Ang recalling how she was “taken aside, interrogated in a very humiliating way for three hours, detained, and then deported”.


http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/lancet-gaza/

[King_David]

12. Heres a link in case anyone wants to read what DU members had to say about the POS Doctors

and their letter published by the Lancet and the Jew hating video they circulated by David Duke the past KKK grand wizard.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/113482100

[Jefferson23]

14. Our World: Israel bashers’ phony contrition

snip* Horton then pledged not to retract the letter – which is still posted on Lancet’s website – “even if [criticism of the authors] was found to be substantiated.”

Yet as the outrage mounted against him, and the stench of the Jew hatred of his colleagues grew stronger, Horton began to feel the heat. So after refusing to publish a letter from Israeli doctors from Rambam rejecting the libelous attacks against Israel, Horton accepted Rambam’s invitation to come to Israel last week and learn firsthand how none of his allegations were true.

At the end of his three-day visit, Horton gave a lecture at Rambam where he condemned the Cossack-style Jew hatred of his colleagues Ang and Manduca. But despite his seeming contrition, Horton did not disavow their letter. He did not agree to remove the slander from The Lancet’s website.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Our-World-Israel-bashers-phony-contrition-378206

20,000 signers and two are called out. How does that change the charge of a massacre on Gaza?

Is there a link to the evidence on Dr Ang? She was accused and falsely so of justifying suicide bombers.
Where is the connection to Duke? If she actively participated with him, that is disgusting. Manduca, I am
not familiar with.

[King_David]

15. I think the Lancet started bleeding subscriptions,

Rightfully so.

[Jefferson23]

20. What does that have to do with a letter not retracted ? You also ignored my questions. n/t

[King_David]

16. Your using extreme right wing Caroline Glick as your supporting source?

On DU ?

[azurnoir]

17. She's the deputy managing editor for the source used here

pot meet kettle

Star Member King_David (9,280 posts)
10. The Lancet editor relents on medical journal’s unbalanced attacks on Israel

During Gaza war, The Lancet published a 1,600-word “Open letter for the people in Gaza” that aroused a wave of protest among advocates of Israeli around the world.

e Lancet editor Prof. Richard Horton – who has been accused for many years by pro-Israeli groups of being unfair to Israel and even “anti-Semitic” for the politics he has allowed to appear in the medical journal – seems to have repented.

At the end of his three-day visit with senior researchers and physicians at Haifa’s Rambam Medical Center, Horton said his visit to Israel was “a turning point for me and my relationship with this region.”

Horton promised to write positively in the next edition of the British journal next week.

The outcome of his visit thus holds a promise for new academic and medical collaborations that Horton has promised to support.

“I am proud and humbled to be here... I’ve learned a great deal: Rambam as a model of the partnership between Jews and Arabs; Rambam as a center offering an open hand to the people of Palestine; and Rambam as a place with a unique vision for a peaceful, productive, and diverse future among peoples,” Horton said.

Horton, who delivered a lecture to the Haifa doctors on Thursday, said he visits the Middle East yearly and sometimes several times a year because of his concern for the region. His three days of seminars and meetings with senior researchers and physicians at Rambam and the Technion’s Ruth and Bruce Rappaport Faculty of Medicine was initiated by Prof. Karl Skorecki, Rambam’s director of medical research, and director-general Prof. Rafi Beyar, a world-famous interventional cardiologist.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Health/The-Lancet-editor-relents-on-medical-journals-unbalanced-attacks-on-Israel-377937

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113483565#post10

[King_David]

18. One us an opinion piece

Guess which one?

Wasn't mine.

No pots and kettles here .

[Jefferson23]

19. Caroline Glick demonstrates the shared contempt of Palestinians I see in the Israeli government.

I see you don't want to answer my questions, either.

[King_David]

21. From what I have seen the Lancet will not be attracting academic submissions that they used to.

In the past sitting in the Doctors lounge:

Doctor 1 : my paper on Post operative Anticoagulation with low molecular weight Heparin was published in the Lancet today.

Doctor 2 : that's fantastic , mazeltov , such naches to you, let's celebrate tonight.

Now and in the future :

Doctor 1 : my paper on Post operative Anticoagulation with low molecular weight Heparin was published in the Lancet today.

Doctor 2 : The Lancet ? I never read that shmutte journal and don't know anyone that does. NEJM wouldn't accept it?

[Jefferson23]

22. I'll take it you'll continue to ignore my questions, ok. Your response here is inapplicable. n/t

[King_David]

23. Lancet editor apologises for Gaza article by scientists who promoted Ku Klux Klan

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11137943/Lancet-editor-apologises-for-Gaza-article-by-scientists-who-promoted-Ku-Klux-Klan.html

[Jefferson23]

24. Ang sent e-mails containing the Duke video, that seems to be the charge. How did they confirm

this, they don't say. I watched the video, even if she did not know who Duke was, the content
and how it was framed should have been a major red flag to her...it's pure anti-semetic rhetoric.
She should respond to the charge against her..how did she receive the video to e-mail out?

The letter regarding Gaza was not retracted by Dr. Horton, he is horrified by what seems to be
the bigotry of two colleagues. 20,000 signers minus 2 is not going to change the charge of
massacre in Gaza. Caroline Glick states Horton would not publish the Israeli doctors letter, either.
Unless she is lying, it looks like you're over stating the importance of Horton's response. I would
say his reaction of being horrified by their opinions is not surprising, but completely appropriate,
even though he is not responsible for their opinions.

[shira]

27. They were 2 of 5. A third is Mads Gilbert who is pro-terror against innocents....

That's 3 of 5 who wrote the letter, not 3 of 20,000.

That letter absolved Hamas of all blame, in addition to justifying Hamas terror (rockets, etc.):

People in Gaza are resisting this aggression because they want a better and normal life and, even while crying in sorrow, pain, and terror, they reject a temporary truce that does not provide a real chance for a better future.

Those people resisting are Hamas. Classy stuff there, but you support the letter nonetheless and demand folks here prove a massacre didn't occur?

The pro-terror doctor Mads Gilbert falsely claimed Israel used DIME weapons on Gaza back in 2008-09. WTF makes you think anything he co-signs related to I/P is factual?

=============

I agree with you in that Horton didn't go nearly far enough to 'retract' or apologize for anything in the letter. He did no such thing. AFAIK, he still thinks the world of an anti-humane POS like Mads Gilbert.

[azurnoir]

28. The letter garnered 20,000 signatories but don't let that slow you down :)

[shira]

29. And you seem proud of that! There were far more than 20,000....

....who supported what was happening against the Jews 70 years ago.

Might doesn't make right.

[azurnoir]

30. It's a point in fact

do you feel that Israel's actions in Gaza this summer are justified?

[shira]

31. The fact is 20,000 co-signed on a letter that justifies Hamas terror....

....and absolves Hamas of all blame this summer.

You don't have a problem with that, correct?

[azurnoir]

34. The letter did not 'absolve' Hamas in fact the letter was about the civilian population Gaza

which some here seem to 'confuse' with Hamas

[shira]

36. Sure it did. Not only did that letter fail to condemn Hamas' rockets...

The letter explicitly defended and justified Hamas' so-called resistance:

People in Gaza are resisting this aggression because they want a better and normal life and, even while crying in sorrow, pain, and terror, they reject a temporary truce that does not provide a real chance for a better future.

You support that sentence, correct?

[azurnoir]

37. the letter said "people in Gaza" you claim that means Hamas

my query is answered I guess

[King_David]

39. What percentage are Hamas

I know the majority support Hamas according to polls.

[shira]

40. Now you're playing games, as the people resisting were Hamas & friends....

In other words, terrorists shooting rockets.

The letter is pro-terror and you don't have a problem with it, right?

[azurnoir]

41. it would seem that you're saying 2+2=5 in this case

and once again opinion doe not equal fact

[shira]

45. Who are the people of Gaza doing the resisting, if not terrorists? n/t

[azurnoir]

48. Interesting that you automatically equate the word resistance with terrorism

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so any Palestinian cradle to grave who 'resists' Israels occupation and siege is a terrorist?

[shira]

52. You're denying that sentence refers to terror operations as you deny below....

....that Manduca has ties to a terror org like Interpal.

Classy.

Any defense for Mads Gilbert while you're at it?

[azurnoir]

54. nowhere have I mentioned Manduca and I replied to your comment as you wrote it

shira (22,683 posts)
45. Who are the people of Gaza doing the resisting, if not terrorists? n/t

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=83662

[King_David]

32. Do some exploring and see how many letters against it there were

In my city 2500 physicians signed a letter against . Just 1 city.

[azurnoir]

33. Link it up for us please as it is your own statement

if you have proof there should be no problem

[King_David]

38. Nah

It's easy to find though .

But it was embarrassing enough that even the editor did some major back peddling apologized and scampered off with his wet tail between his sorry ass legs.

[azurnoir]

42. well if as you contend it is so "easy to find" why do you seem unwilling to back up your own words?

and I'm not sure I'd describe the Telegraph's change to the libelous title to the article you linked to in quite the manner you did here

38. Nah

View profile
It's easy to find though .

But it was embarrassing enough that even the editor did some major back peddling apologized and scampered off with his wet tail between his sorry ass legs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113483565#post38

[King_David]

43. Whimpered off

Tail between legs.

I think his time left at the Lancet will be short and rightfully do.

[Jefferson23]

44. I did not say, 20,000 wrote it. The rest of your post is hyperbole, as usual. n/t

[shira]

46. The letter is pro-terror, written by pro-terror people....

Besides Mads Gilbert, Manduca has ties with and has raised funds for Interpal, designated as a terror organization by the US, Canada, and Australia.

This doesn't bother you, correct?

[Jefferson23]

47. uh huh. n/t

[azurnoir]

49. InterPal was designated as terror linked by Bush 2 the UK retracted its claims of terror links

against InterPal.

2003 inquiry

On August 22, 2003 the United States Department of the Treasury published a list of six individuals and five charities it alleged to have links to Hamas and terrorism. The list included Interpal. It described all as "Specially Designated Global Terrorists." The Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control put them all on a list of individuals and organizations with whom United States citizens and permanent residents are prohibited from doing business.[10] A few weeks later, after a full investigation, the British Charity Commission cleared Interpal of any illegal activities, finding the U.S. Treasury did not provide evidence to support their allegations, and unfroze its assets.

This page was last modified on 17 August 2014 at 17:32.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpal

[shira]

51. The US, Canada, & Australia still consider Interpal a terror org.

You know, it is possible for you to condemn Manduca, Gilbert, and their support for Hamas terror....and yet still be considered pro-Palestinian.

[azurnoir]

53. the UK said the US could present no evidence backing up this Bush2 era judgement

myself I refuse to blindly follow all that the government claims in the area of terrorists, especially not those that dated back to the Bush2 era

2003 inquiry

On August 22, 2003 the United States Department of the Treasury published a list of six individuals and five charities it alleged to have links to Hamas and terrorism. The list included Interpal. It described all as "Specially Designated Global Terrorists." The Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control put them all on a list of individuals and organizations with whom United States citizens and permanent residents are prohibited from doing business.[10] A few weeks later, after a full investigation, the British Charity Commission cleared Interpal of any illegal activities, finding the U.S. Treasury did not provide evidence to support their allegations, and unfroze its assets.

This page was last modified on 17 August 2014 at 17:32.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpal

[azurnoir]

50. duplicate postn/t

[azurnoir]

35. Title of the aricle has been changed for accuracy because none of the MD's promoted the Klan

Lancet editor apologises for Gaza article by scientists who circulated anti-Semitic video

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11137943/Lancet-editor-apologises-for-Gaza-article-by-scientists-who-promoted-Ku-Klux-Klan.html