Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumWhen a Haaretz journalist (Amira Hass) was asked to leave a Palestinian university
Anti-Israel bashers who rail against apartheid can finally rejoice. They just found it!
The true face of the BDS movement.
It is well known that the university doesn't employ Israeli Jews as academic staff, even from anti-Zionist left-wing circles. In 1998, my application to an Arabic course for foreigners was rejected. (A sarcastic friend, Iyad from Gaza, said back then: "With your Gazan accent, how can they accept you?" But I was never told that there was a university law against my very presence, as an Israeli Jew, on Birzeit's campus. The claim that the law APPLIES to me because I am representing an Israeli institution is a shaky one: Palestinian citizens of Israel who teach at Israeli universities are not subject to the same policy. If I had known about the existence of such a law, I wouldn't have come to the conference. I have other places to invest my subversive energies.
I am writing about this incident precisely because I did not take it personally. I do not take personally the fact that some faculty members were hiding behind hypothesized angry students and a law that many others seem to be unaware of. In my opinion, it would have been more dignified to tell me explicitly: We do not differentiate between those who support the occupation and those who are against it, between those who report on policies to forcibly evict the Bedouin or those who carry out that policy; for us, there is only one place for every Israeli Jew - outside.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/.premium-1.618007
intaglio
(8,170 posts)is refused an interview with a Palestinian professor - and that's apartheid? A university whose objective is to educate Palestinians and employ Palestinians is practising apartheid?
Perhaps this university is trying to counteract refusal of many Israelis to employ or interact with educated Palestinians but that would put your fantasy of Israel at risk.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Are you serious?
shira
(30,109 posts)What happened at Birzeit is straight-up bigotry.
King_David
(14,851 posts)There's lots of research available about IP , it's one of the most written about conflicts of the world that everyone's interested because it involves Jews.
Or you can look up Amira Hass .
Or just ask one of us.
Israeli
(4,159 posts)....you are being manipulated by an expert .
Amira Hass is an Israeli Left wing post zionist ....shira does not like her... or any of us .
See : http://www.democraticunderground.com/113449249
Shira twists things to suit her own agenda .... you need to read the full article ....can you ?
If not I can post it for you .
shira
(30,109 posts)Please, explain away....
King_David
(14,851 posts)That Haaretz makes people pay for.
It's sort of like "downloading free" music and videos.
You can get a U2 album for free if you have iTunes .
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)because that would be more like Ha'aretz
aranthus
(3,385 posts)It's not that she was excluded from a Palestinian institution because she's Jewish. No surprise there at all and many of us already understood what Palestinianism was about anyway. No, what's striking, but not surprising is that getting hit with this little slice of reality does not seem to change her thinking in any way. I'm quite certain that she intends to be just as "subversive" as she was before. Which says something about her.
shira
(30,109 posts)No amount of facts or logic will change their thinking in any way.
Exactly like religious fanatics. No difference. Religious fanatics are compromised by their religious beliefs while others are compromised by their political beliefs. They're all impervious to facts and reasoning.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)I can't begin to fathom why that got left out
Meanwhile, the university published a statement Saturday saying: "The administration has nothing against the presence of the journalist Hass. The university as a national institution differentiates between friends and enemies of the Palestinian people and works with every person or institution that is against the occupation."
http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/.premium-1.618007
King_David
(14,851 posts)She really fancies herself the most righteous Jew among the primitives .
Kind of like that website called Mondoweiss - the righteous Jews among a sea of Neanderthals . We even have some views like that here on DU.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)"The move was justified as apparently Palestinian students need a safe space free of Jews."
http://www.inquisitr.com/1504549/pro-palestinian-journalist-expelled-from-ramallah-university-conference-for-being-jewish/#JFfUKPRwqIIddGtd.99
azurnoir
(45,850 posts).
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1504549/pro-palestinian-journalist-expelled-from-ramallah-university-conference-for-being-jewish/#D8RhJEJu0TPqsB0i.99
apology from Birzeit University
Meanwhile, the university published a statement Saturday saying: "The administration has nothing against the presence of the journalist Hass. The university as a national institution differentiates between friends and enemies of the Palestinian people and works with every person or institution that is against the occupation."
http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/.premium-1.618007
Israeli
(4,159 posts).....are having a field day azurnoir....
Israelcool has it top of their page :
http://www.israellycool.com/2014/09/28/reader-post-amira-hass-anti-israel-leftist-thrown-out-of-birzeit-university-for-being-jewish/
The IP conflict has nothing to do with the occupation or the oppression of the Palestinian people dont you know ..... its all due to anti semitism .
King_David
(14,851 posts)But a lot of suport the Palestinians do get from the outside is definitly due to AntiSemitism .
Witness David Duke or other extreme right . Same with the extreme left. Same with Greta Berlin and the free Gaza movement. Same with 75% of people on websites and forums, it's not due to the occupation that brings that support , it's due to good old fashioned bigotry against Jews .
( usually goes along with homophobia too )
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)do you really think right-wing Protestants like Chuck Hagee have secretly been suppressing their great love for the Jewish people these past 2000 years?
The simple arithmetic of it is that the right now hates Muslims more than it hates Jews.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Make cause with Palestinians precisely because they hate Jews .
These are way more extremist right than Hagee et al.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)and Robert Spencer support Israel precisely because they hate Muslims and/or Arabs.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Except for Glick, she would support Israel anyway, shes more like a settler mentality.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)"Birzeit University wishes to clarify its principled position of welcoming supporters of the Palestinian struggle and opponents of the Israeli occupation of Palestine, regardless of nationality, religion, ethnicity, or creed," the statement said.
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=731230