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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:14 PM Sep 2014

Hamas, Fatah agree Palestinian Authority to take control of Gaza

Hamas has agreed to the establishment of a Palestinian state within the '67 borders, Fatah negotiator says.

By Jack Khoury and Reuters | Sep. 25, 2014 | 6:24 PM

Palestinian factions Hamas and Fatah reached an agreement on Thursday by which the Palestinian Authority will take control over the Gaza Strip. The deal also includes Hamas' consent for a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders, according to a Fatah official.

Hassin Alsheikh, a negotiator on the Fatah team, told Haaretz that the Palestinian Authority will take responsibility for the reconstruction of the Strip as well as for manning the Gaza crossings "effective immediately."

He added that Hamas also agreed to support Palestinian President Abbas' plan for establishing a state within the '67 borders.

Hamas' negotiator Musa Abu Marzouk and Fatah's Azzam Ahmed told reporters at a joint press conference in Cairo that the factions agreed to promote any decision that will aid the Palestinian unity government, and that a joint committee will supervise the agreement's implementation and will rule on any disagreement.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.617732
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Hamas, Fatah agree Palestinian Authority to take control of Gaza (Original Post) Jefferson23 Sep 2014 OP
Abbas to launch bid to end Israeli occupation at UN Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #1
Does this mean whosinpower1 Sep 2014 #2
Abbas led unity government will now govern all Palestinian territory...operative words, unity led. Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #3
Politically whosinpower1 Sep 2014 #4
I hope so too, whosinpower. n/t Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #10
It will be quite interesting to see what effect if any this has on Israel's blockade of Gaza azurnoir Sep 2014 #5
Depends if the rockets stop and no more tunnels are built. hack89 Sep 2014 #12
exactly what I expected zero tolerance of Palestinians allegedly because of rockets meanwhile azurnoir Sep 2014 #13
They have a choice King_David Sep 2014 #14
a reminder the legislative branch has no say over foreign policy azurnoir Sep 2014 #16
Before the suicide bombers hack89 Sep 2014 #15
a reminder for you the so called security wall is in the West Bank not Gaza azurnoir Sep 2014 #17
Suicide bombers came from the West Bank too hack89 Sep 2014 #18
Don't want to answer questions about why non military items are barred from Gaza? azurnoir Sep 2014 #19
I support an incremental lifting of the blockade hack89 Sep 2014 #20
ah I see you would extend the blockade for an additional 5 years and the people of Gaza azurnoir Sep 2014 #24
And what is Israel allowed to do in response to attacks from Hamas? hack89 Sep 2014 #25
when Israel guarentees that its own citizens will be kept 100% in line get back to me azurnoir Sep 2014 #26
Israel citizens are independently attacking Gaza? hack89 Sep 2014 #27
lol of course I would expect no less from Israel and it the unity government azurnoir Sep 2014 #28
If Hamas restrains from attacking Israel from Gaza hack89 Sep 2014 #29
They support Palestinian "resistance". The blockade should end.... shira Sep 2014 #33
Hamas refrained from November of 2012 until at least June of 2014 and what did it gain for them ? azurnoir Sep 2014 #36
There were over 200 attacks in that period hack89 Sep 2014 #37
could be but Hamas did not attack Israel for the time period outlined azurnoir Sep 2014 #38
Hamas just needs to make a choice hack89 Sep 2014 #39
Abbas at UNGA: Israel perpetrated genocide in Gaza, we won't forget or forgive Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #6
Abbas at UN: Israel seeks to fragmant our land and unity Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #7
Even under the best outcome Palestine will be weak and fragmented hack89 Sep 2014 #21
Netanyahu heading to UN to 'refute lies' about Israel Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #30
Liberman calls Abbas 'diplomatic terrorist busy with slandering Israel' Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #8
Full text of Palestinian Authority President Abbas' address to the UN General Assembly in New York Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #9
Why is Abbas playing hardball with Hamas? Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #11
Mahmoud Abbas calls on UN to back deadline for Israeli withdrawal Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #22
PM: Intl body to pay salaries of Gaza civil servants Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #23
Herzog: Despite UN speech, we prefer Abbas Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #31
Islamic nations lobbying Palestinians to go to ICC Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #32
Abbas' UN speech gives West another chance to pressure Israel Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #34
Saudi Arabia transfers $60 million to PA Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #35

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. Abbas to launch bid to end Israeli occupation at UN
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:26 PM
Sep 2014
NEW YORK (Ma'an) -- Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has said that he will launch a bid at the United Nations on Friday to set a timeline for the end of the Israeli occupation.

Abbas said that that the failure of peace negotiations with the Israeli government had made appealing to the international community a necessity, adding that in his speech he will explain the strategic vision that Palestinians will be acting upon.

Abbas is expected to address the UN's 69th annual General Debate at noon EST (7 p.m. local time) amid growing local concern in Palestine that the Palestinian Authority has not done enough to end Israel's continued assaults against Palestinians, most notably the nearly two-month long Operation Protective Edge over summer which left more than 2,000 dead in the devastated Gaza Strip.

Chief negotiator Saeb Erekat told a Ma'an correspondent in New York that Palestinian leaders now believe US-sponsored peace negotiations with Israel have reached a dead end, and that despite disapproval from US Secretary of State John Kerry, they saw this as the best option forward.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=730043

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
3. Abbas led unity government will now govern all Palestinian territory...operative words, unity led.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:09 PM
Sep 2014

Israel still occupies the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

whosinpower1

(85 posts)
4. Politically
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:40 PM
Sep 2014

This has potential to be good news for palistinians in terms of a unified voice. I hope they can hold it together-but am cynical that Netanyahu will negotiate anything.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. It will be quite interesting to see what effect if any this has on Israel's blockade of Gaza
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:48 PM
Sep 2014

seeing as how Hamas rule has been the excuse thus far

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. Depends if the rockets stop and no more tunnels are built.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:42 PM
Sep 2014

the stated purpose of the blockade is to deny Hamas powerful weapons by which they can attack Israel. I suspect the blockade will continue because Hamas will not disarm nor relinquish control of their military organization.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
13. exactly what I expected zero tolerance of Palestinians allegedly because of rockets meanwhile
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:47 PM
Sep 2014

Palestinians are expected to tolerate being killed for getting too close to their own border, the confiscation of land, the continued blockade, children being ripped from their beds in the middle of the night for alleged stone throwing by IDF home invasions, indiscriminate arrests torture and detentions according to the whims of Israeli security, being intentionally kept homeless ..........

Tell us just who is being expected to lie back and take it?

and if that is the stated purpose limiting powerful weapons why is the blockade applied to things of a non-military nature?

and I would think PA accounting of what building materials are being used for once in Gaza would be more beneficial than simply limiting them as you seem to feel

King_David

(14,851 posts)
14. They have a choice
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:06 PM
Sep 2014

Give up terrorism and rockets and tunnels or lift the blockade.

Seems reasonable , don't think any reasonable party including Obama and congress have any other expectation .

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
16. a reminder the legislative branch has no say over foreign policy
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:17 PM
Sep 2014

and apparently you have not kept up because Obama and the rest of the Western world has simply required that the PA take over the crossings end of story and

hack89

(39,171 posts)
15. Before the suicide bombers
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:10 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:35 PM - Edit history (1)

There was no wall. Palestinians routinely worked in Israel at decent paying jobs. When they could no longer send suicide bombers Hamas started shooting rockets which led to the blockade. You want to turn the clock back ten or so years? Then be honest about the Palestinian 's actions that got them into the situation they are in. Any solution requires no suicide bombers and no rockets - Hamas thinks they need both to get their desired solution. It is imperative for peace that they are disabused of this notion.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
17. a reminder for you the so called security wall is in the West Bank not Gaza
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:20 PM
Sep 2014

and of course it's all the Palestinians fault, they dictate Israel's actions apparently, I would not have expected anything else from some here

hack89

(39,171 posts)
18. Suicide bombers came from the West Bank too
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:32 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:16 AM - Edit history (2)

Hamas and Islamic Jihad were not restricted to Gaza. I understand that to you suicide bombers are merely "resistance" and more dead Israelis indicate a "fair" fight. I would not expect anything less from you.

No one is making Hamas shoot rockets and send suicide bombers. They can exercise free will and choose a different path.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
19. Don't want to answer questions about why non military items are barred from Gaza?
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 01:08 AM
Sep 2014

so instead you engage in attack accusing me of supporting suicide bombers? that alone speaks volumes Thank you

hack89

(39,171 posts)
20. I support an incremental lifting of the blockade
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:27 AM
Sep 2014

For every month with no rockets there would be a corresponding increase in goods allowed into Gaza with the goal of having no blockade in five years. Attacks on Israel would pause the clock. Extended periods of violence would reset the clock and the blockade to the start. Five years of peace would go a long way towards putting the region on a healthier track. In the same period a plan to withdraw West Bank settlements would be agreed upon.

Those non-military items are used to build the tunnels into Israel and the rockets. You are smarter than that. No tunnels, no rockets and no smuggled weapons are the bottom line for peace - let's hear a practical plan from you that accomplishes that while allowing the blockade to be lifted.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
24. ah I see you would extend the blockade for an additional 5 years and the people of Gaza
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 01:46 PM
Sep 2014

would be allowed the privilege of a roof over their heads, food medical, care the ability to make a living, would be dependent on the behavior of others as good or bad _______ (fill in the adjective) a sure fire way to peace 90% stick 10% carrot, what a satisfying arrangement for those who get pleasure from Palestinian suffering and their own feeling of superiority BTW there is a name for that its called collective something hmmmm

however for my part lifting the blanket blockade tracking and accounting for what gets into Gaza including building and other materials are being used for and allowing export of produce and other goods would suffice and of course Israel as always has control over which Palestinians are allowed into Israel and which are not

hack89

(39,171 posts)
25. And what is Israel allowed to do in response to attacks from Hamas?
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 02:10 PM
Sep 2014

remember - no suicide bombers, no rockets, no arms smuggling.

Don't you think a guarantee of peace is required from Hamas first?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
26. when Israel guarentees that its own citizens will be kept 100% in line get back to me
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 02:15 PM
Sep 2014

as it stands there seems a blind spot not to mention a double standard

hack89

(39,171 posts)
27. Israel citizens are independently attacking Gaza?
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 02:43 PM
Sep 2014

We are talking about the Gaza blockade. Can Israel also tie the blockade to what happens in the West Bank or is that right reserved exclusively for Hamas?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
28. lol of course I would expect no less from Israel and it the unity government
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 02:57 PM
Sep 2014

and what punishment would you inflict upon the West Bank or should I ask how many dunams per stone? Yepper you have sure fire methodology for peace there oppress 'em til they give up-it's worked so well hasn't it?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
29. If Hamas restrains from attacking Israel from Gaza
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 04:18 PM
Sep 2014

Then the Gaza blockade should be lifted. Do you agree? Or do you think that Hamas attacking Israel is "Palestian resistance" and they can continue even if the blockade is lifted?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
33. They support Palestinian "resistance". The blockade should end....
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:31 AM
Sep 2014

....and preferably without disarming Hamas. The PA will govern while Hamas continues its terror.

That's clearly what Team Palestine is advocating.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
36. Hamas refrained from November of 2012 until at least June of 2014 and what did it gain for them ?
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:06 PM
Sep 2014

Did Israel keep up it's end of bargain concerning the 2012 cease fire? No it did not and in fact tightened the noose around Gaza-shot and killed Palestinians in Gaza at will bulldozed, agricultural fields, closed off even more off waters preventing fishing

What did Hamas get in short nothing at all

hack89

(39,171 posts)
37. There were over 200 attacks in that period
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:16 PM
Sep 2014

Shouldn't "refrained " mean zero attacks?

And let's not forget those military tunnels they were busily digging into Israel. Is that another example of Hamas restraint?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
38. could be but Hamas did not attack Israel for the time period outlined
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:56 PM
Sep 2014

and in fact arrested those who did attack Israel, it seems you wish to hold Palestinians to higher standard than Israel also even IDF admits the purpose of the tunnels was to attack military not civilian targets-something not done until July of 2014

hack89

(39,171 posts)
39. Hamas just needs to make a choice
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:47 PM
Sep 2014

Based on that choice the blockade will remain in place or be lifted. Hamas may have the right to resist (a questionable proposition in the eyes of the law) but Israel is under no obligation to help them.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
6. Abbas at UNGA: Israel perpetrated genocide in Gaza, we won't forget or forgive
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 02:55 PM
Sep 2014
Palestinian president calls for 'comprehensive' strategy to end Israeli 'state terrorism,' urges UN Security Council to pass resolution to terminate occupation.

By Jack Khoury and The Associated Press | Sep. 26, 2014 | 6:55 PM

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas accused Israel on Friday of conducting a "war of genocide" during the 50-day summer conflict in Gaza but stopped short of saying he will pursue war crime charges against Jerusalem at the International Criminal Court.

In his speech at the UN General Assembly, Abbas also said he will seek a UN resolution to set a deadline for Israel to pull out of Palestinian lands captured in the 1967 war. He did not, however, include a three-year deadline as his aides had said he would, evidently due to concerns that the U.S. would veto such a resolution, Palestinian officials told Haaretz.

"In this year, proclaimed by the United Nations General Assembly as the International Year of Solidarity with the Palestinian People, Israel has chosen to make it a year of a new war of genocide perpetrated against the Palestinian people," he said.

"This last war against Gaza was a series of absolute war crimes carried out before the eyes and ears of the entire world, moment by moment," Abbas added. The devastation unleashed, he said, "is unmatched in modern times."

The recent Gaza war killed 2,100 Palestinians and has weakened Abbas domestically, with his Hamas rivals enjoying a surge of popularity among Palestinians for fighting Israel. Sixty-six soldiers and six civilians were killed on the Israeli side.

"In the name of Palestine and its people, I affirm here today: we will not forget and we will not forgive, and we will not allow war criminals to escape punishment," Abbas said.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.617831

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. Abbas at UN: Israel seeks to fragmant our land and unity
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:02 PM
Sep 2014

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas addressed the UN General Assembly Friday afternoon saying that, "Israel has consistently sought to fragment our land and our unity."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4575071,00.html

hack89

(39,171 posts)
21. Even under the best outcome Palestine will be weak and fragmented
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:30 AM
Sep 2014

Surrounded by mistrustful neighbors and with no apparent basis for a strong economy.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
30. Netanyahu heading to UN to 'refute lies' about Israel
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:45 AM
Sep 2014
Prime Minister will use General Assembly speech to respond to Rohani and Abbas, accusing them both of deception
and incitement.[/b

By Barak Ravid | Sep. 28, 2014 | 2:14 PM

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday before leaving Israel for the United Nations in New York that he would refute "all of the lies directed at us" with regard to Israel's recently concluded war with Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

Netanyahu is scheduled to address the United Nations General Assembly on Monday. His comments come after Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas in his own UN address Friday charged that Israel had conducted "a war of genocide" in Gaza.
With memories of the Nazi holocaust still fresh in Israel, use of the word "genocide" is regarded as particularly provocative.

The 50-day war between Israel and Hamas-led Islamic militants ended Aug. 26. It killed more than 2,100 Palestinians, mostly civilians, and 72 on the Israeli side, almost all soldiers.

Netanyahu said Saturday that his speech at the General Assembly would focus on responding to Iranian President Hassan Rohani and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, accusing both of them of deception and incitement.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.618050

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. Liberman calls Abbas 'diplomatic terrorist busy with slandering Israel'
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:08 PM
Sep 2014
"There’s a reason that Abu Mazen entered into a joint government with Hamas," Israel's foreign minister said.

Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman said on Friday that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ remarks before the UN General Assembly in New York showed him to be “Yasser Arafat’s successor in other ways.”

“Abu Mazen’s statements to the UN General Assembly clearly illustrate that he doesn’t want to be – and cannot be – a partner to a diplomatic settlement,” Liberman said. “There’s a reason that Abu Mazen entered into a joint government with Hamas.”

“Abu Mazen complements Hamas in that he is preoccupied with diplomatic terrorism and slanderous claims against Israel,” he said. “As long as Abu Mazen is chairman of the PA, he will lead to a continuation of the conflict. Abu Mazen has once again proven that he is not a man of peace, but rather a successor to Yasser Arafat in other ways.”

In response to Abbas’ threat to unilaterally seek UN Security Council approval for statehood, Likud MK Danny Danon urged the government to annex the Jewish settlements of Judea and Samaria.

“A unilateral step should be met with a unilateral step,” Danon said. “Every unilateral declaration by Abu Mazen needs to be answered by the application of sovereignty over the Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria.”

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Liberman-calls-Abbas-diplomatic-terrorist-busy-with-slandering-Israel-376391

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
9. Full text of Palestinian Authority President Abbas' address to the UN General Assembly in New York
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:11 PM
Sep 2014

Mr. President,

At the outset, I wish to extend our sincere congratulations upon your election as President of the United Nations General Assembly this session and to express our gratitude and appreciation to H.E. Mr. John Ashe for his able leadership of the past session.

Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen,

In this year, proclaimed by the United Nations General Assembly as the International Year of Solidarity with the Palestinian people, Israel has chosen to make it a year of a new war of genocide perpetrated against the Palestinian people.

In this year, in which this Assembly, on behalf of the countries and peoples of the world, conveyed the world’s yearning and determination to realize a just peace that achieves freedom and independence for the Palestinian people in their State of Palestine alongside Israel in order to rectify the historic injustice inflicted on the Palestinian people in Al-Nakba of 1948, the occupying power has chosen to defy the entire world by launching its war on Gaza, by which its jets and tanks brutally assassinated lives and devastated the homes, schools and dreams of thousands of Palestinian children, women and men and in reality destroying the remaining hopes for peace.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have addressed you in this hall during similar days in 2012 and cautioned that the colonial occupying Power was preparing for a new Nakba against the Palestinian people, and I appealed to you: Prevent a new nakba. Support the establishment of a free and independent State of Palestine now.

I returned to this same hall two months later as Palestine was healing her wounds and her people were burying beloved martyred children, women and men after yet another war waged then against the Gaza Strip, and that day I stated: certainly there was not a single person in the world needing the loss of the lives of tens of Palestinian children in order to confirm that Israel insists on occupation; and there was also no need for thousands of deadly raids and tons of explosives to remind the world that there is an occupation that must end and that there is a people that must be freed.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Full-text-of-Palestinian-Authority-President-Abbas-address-to-the-UN-General-Assembly-in-New-York-376388

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
11. Why is Abbas playing hardball with Hamas?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:32 PM
Sep 2014

9/26/2014

On paper it looks like Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and his counterparts in Hamas need each other. Abbas will be unable to carry out Gaza's reconstruction or even talk convincingly to the world about the future of Palestine without the acquiescence of the Islamists. On the other hand, Hamas cannot get a hammer or nail into Gaza or pay the 40,000 workers it has employed without the approval of the Palestinian president. If both sides so badly need each other, why is the Palestinian leader playing hardball with Hamas?[/b


According to leaked transcripts, Abbas was extremely tough with Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal during a private meeting with the Qatari emir, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, during the last days of the recent war with Israel. Abbas’ anger with Hamas was also made public after the cease-fire agreement in interviews he gave to a Palestinian television station.

The Palestinian president has paid little attention to Gaza issues in the last few weeks, focusing instead on European and UN visits to promote his peace plan, which calls for the international community to demarcate the borders of Palestine and for a three-year transition to total independence.

Abbas’ displeasure with Hamas had been apparent in a meeting he held in Ramallah Sept. 17 with a group of some 30 businesspeople from Gaza. In the two-hour meeting, during which, attendees said, Abbas appeared unhappy, he insisted that all building materials will enter Gaza under the supervision of UN representative Robert Serry, a sign that he accepts this Israeli condition. Abbas’ tough position stems from his mistrust of Hamas and concern about potentially angering moderate Sunni states. His stance is unlikely to change even after the signing of an agreement Sept. 25 in Cairo that allows the Palestinian unity government to operate in Gaza but fails to strip Hamas militants of security control.

In the meeting with the Gazans, one businessman is reported to have told Abbas that Hamas has changed. Abbas responded by asking the businessman his age. The man replied, 52, to which Abbas shot back, “I’ve known them for 55 years,” a reference to Abbas’ knowledge of the Muslim Brotherhood, some of whose leaders were among Fatah’s early members.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/09/president-abbas-strong-position-against-hamas.html##ixzz3ESoDwkZ3

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
22. Mahmoud Abbas calls on UN to back deadline for Israeli withdrawal
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:20 PM
Sep 2014
Palestinian president accuses Israel of genocide in Gaza conflict and declares US-brokered peace process dead

The Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, has called on the United Nations security council to support a resolution setting a clear deadline for Israel’s withdrawal from the occupied territories as he in effect declared the US-sponsored Oslo peace process over.

In a hard-hitting speech to the UN general assembly in New York, he also accused Israel of “war crimes carried out before the eyes of the world” during the recent 50-day Gaza war that ended in a ceasefire on 26 August, adding that Israel had “perpetrated genocide”.

“We will not forget and we will not forgive, and we will not allow war criminals to escape punishment,” Abbas declared. Palestinian officials were expected to start working with members of the security council to seek backing for a resolution setting a timeframe for the ending of what he called the “racist and colonial” occupation – a resolution certain to be opposed by the US.

According to diplomatic sources, the proposed resolution has caused a rift with the US, which had been working for some months on another resolution with the Israelis, Jordanians and Qataris aimed at bolstering the Gaza ceasefire with an exchange of Palestinian security guarantees for some loosening of Israel’s economic stranglehold.

The official US reaction described the was comments as “offensive and deeply disappointing”.

State department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said: “Such provocative statements are counterproductive and undermine efforts to create a positive atmosphere and restore trust between the parties.”


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/26/mahmoud-abbas-un-israeli-withdrawal-occupied-territories

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
23. PM: Intl body to pay salaries of Gaza civil servants
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:31 PM
Sep 2014
NABLUS (Ma'an) -- Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah said Saturday that an unnamed international body is willing to pay the salaries of civil servants in Gaza who were employed by the former Hamas-run government in the Strip.

Speaking at a news conference at the office of the Nablus district, Hamdallah said the national consensus government could not afford to pay the wages of the thousands of civil servants formerly employed by Hamas.

But an international body has expressed willingness to pay the salaries, and employees will receive their August wages on Monday, Hamdallah said.

He did not provide further details.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=730286

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
31. Herzog: Despite UN speech, we prefer Abbas
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:59 AM
Sep 2014

Opposition chairman blames Netanyahu government for deteriorating relations with Palestinians, says Israel wants Abbas, PA in Gaza.

Attila Somfalvi

"You can criticize Abbas, but at the end of the day, we prefer and the Palestinian Authority taking responsibility of Gaza, and we prefer Abbas and the PA's full security cooperation in the West Bank," Opposition Chairman Isaac Herzog told Ynet on Sunday.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4575357,00.html

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
32. Islamic nations lobbying Palestinians to go to ICC
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:05 AM
Sep 2014
UNITED NATIONS - The world's largest bloc of Islamic countries has been lobbying the Palestinians to join the International Criminal Court so it can prosecute Israeli political and military leaders for war crimes and crimes against humanity, the bloc's leader said Saturday.

Iyad Madani said in an interview with The Associated Press that the 57-nation Organization of Islamic Cooperation strongly supports PalestinianPresident Mahmoud Abbas' plan to ask the UN Security Council to impose a deadline for an Israeli withdrawal from Palestinian lands.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4575269,00.html

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
34. Abbas' UN speech gives West another chance to pressure Israel
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:41 AM
Sep 2014
The Palestinian president's remarks belay an attempt to amend the bad impressions recently made upon his people, yet lack a pointed message about what to do if Abbas' demands are rejected.

By Amira Hass | Sep. 27, 2014 | 9:05 AM

The words and phrases selected by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas (or his speechwriters) for his United Nations General Assembly speech on Friday made one thing perfectly clear: The Palestinian President has given up on the Israeli public as his audience. Packaged inside words such as "colonialist occupation," "racism," "a war of genocide" undertaken by Israel, massacres, a nation above the law and so forth, it is easy to overlook the actual content of Abbas' message, which is the reason he rose to the UNGA podium.

The message, aimed primarily at the West, is this one: The negotiations with Israel, as they have been held until now, are over; forget about the Palestinians returning to them. Forget about the Palestinians continuing to meet and discuss while Israel continues to construct settlements and ignore even the simple commitments it agreed to, such as the release of prisoners. The central headline that emerges from Abbas' speech is this: The Palestinians will not return to any negotiations that do not take as a starting point the final objective of a Palestinian state to stand alongside Israel, based on the '67 borders, and a binding timetable for its establishment.

Abbas' declarations belay an attempt to amend the bad impressions his recent speeches have made upon his people. This time, he used language that reflects the true reality facing Palestinians', as they perceive it.

Language used by Palestinians who oppose the renewal of negotiations with Israel also found its way into Abbas' speech; words heard spoken by demonstrators and by non-governmental organizations who participate in international conferences. For example: "We will not agree to be those who are always called to prove their good intentions through forsaking their rights, and to be silent when they are killed and their land stolen from them, and understand the conditions of the other side and the importance of keeping the coalition government from collapsing."

But make no mistake: Abbas did not use these words out of tactical considerations meant to improve his standing among his people, which has long been diminishing. Abbas truly is fed up of the futile negotiations with Israel, negotiation which have for many years now placed him, his belief in a two-state solution and the Palestinian Authority itself in a ludicrous light.

How great the distance between the Abbas who now extols the achievements of the BDS movement and its work against "Israel's occupation and apartheid policies" and the Abbas who once expressed his opposition to boycotts directed against Israel (as opposed to those directed against settlement-made products), and several times referred to it as "a neighbor."

A wide gulf divides the speaker who on Friday said Palestinians "will not forget or forgive and won't let war criminals go unpunished" and the one who in 2010 blocked the passage of the Goldstone report – which investigated allegations of war crimes committed by Israel and the Palestinians during "Operation Cast Lead" – to the hands of the UN Security Council.

Whoever remembers Abbas, in his office, describing to a group of young Israelis the security coordination with Israel as "holy" will have a difficult time believing that it is the same person who said on Friday that "such destruction as was caused by the recent offensive in Gaza has never been seen before in the modern era." The security agencies responsible for this destruction are, of course, the same ones the Palestinian Authority are in "holy" contact with.

The speech clearly rebukes Hamas, as well, although implicitly: Abbas frequently mentioned the unbearable destruction and suffering of Gaza, but he implied that his opponent organization did not need to undergo said destruction and suffering to prove the occupation's existence. He additionally spoke of Palestinian rights to struggle, yet set limits to this struggle: humanity, values, ethics, international law.

In recent weeks, there were some rumors that Abbas planned to announce in his speech that he would dissolve the Palestinian Authority if the Security Council would not accept his proposal to set a three-year schedule to end the occupation. Not only did a Hamas news site (Risala-Net) report this, but Palestinian government officials believed Abbas intended to announce this plan. A senior Fatah official said in the same breath, however, that Abbas could not prepare for an international conference on rebuilding Gaza while threatening the liquidation of the Palestinian Authority, designated as the main contractor in the reconstruction.

And that is exactly what was missing from the speech: A pointed message about what the Palestinians should do if and when Abbas' demand for a timetable to end the occupation and a new framework for negotiations would be rejected. "This is not Mahmoud Abbas' way to convey a pointed message," a senior Fatah official told Haaretz. "He works through creating a sequence."

This time, he declared a cap of three years, then sent Saeb Erekat and intelligence chief Majdi Faraj to the United States on a fumbling journey to the U.S. government. When it was apparent that Barack Obama would not support setting a deadline to end the occupation, Abbas announced in his speech that he would stick to his demand and continue on this track. When the Security Council vote fails, he will return to the General Assembly. Afterwards, he will intend to sign international treaties (including the Rome Statute), to call for the implementation of the Geneva Convention in the West Bank and Gaza, and to ask for the deployment of an international force. In between every declaration and actions within the UN framework, Abbas creates a respite period. In these intervals, Abbas still gives the Western countries an opportunity to pull themselves together and exert political pressure on Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.617881

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35. Saudi Arabia transfers $60 million to PA
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:10 AM
Sep 2014
BETHLEHEM (Ma'an) -- The Saudi Fund for Development has transferred $60 million to the Palestinian Authority, the desert kingdom's Ambassador to Egypt and the Arab League said Monday, according to Saudi media.

Ahmad Ibn al-Aziz was quoted by the official Saudi news agency as saying the money was a lump sum of Saudi Arabia's monthly donations to the PA for July, August, and September.

He said the country was committed to giving the PA $20 million per month.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=730974
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