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Mosby

(16,317 posts)
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 03:24 PM Sep 2014

Palestinians Mourn Hamas Terrorists Suspected of Killing Israeli Boys

Thousands of Palestinians mourned the deaths Tuesday of two Palestinian men suspected of kidnapping and killing three Israeli students in June, the Jerusalem Post reports. A massive funeral procession honoring Marwan Kawasme and Amar Abuysha moved through the streets of Hebron, featuring mourners waving Palestinian and Hamas flags. Both Hamas-affiliated terrorists were killed after they opened fire on Israeli troops moving in to arrest them.

Many Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza celebrated the initial kidnapping of Eyal Yifrach, 19, and 16-year-olds Gilad Shaar and Naftali Frenkel, in June. The terrorists were previously jailed in both Palestinian Authority and Israel and were actively involved in terrorist activities on behalf of Hamas.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/09/23/palestinians-mourn-hamas-terrorists-suspected-of-killing-israeli-boys/

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Palestinians Mourn Hamas Terrorists Suspected of Killing Israeli Boys (Original Post) Mosby Sep 2014 OP
Yes, and Israelis mourn the deaths of IDF soldiers suspected of killing Palestinian citizens. Maedhros Sep 2014 #1
Here is the part that gets me: NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #2
I felt the exact same way... tonedevil Sep 2014 #3
I don't recall them celebrating. Mosby Sep 2014 #4
From the pictures in the NYT... tonedevil Sep 2014 #5
Really? whosinpower1 Sep 2014 #7
I don't see anyone celebrating. Mosby Sep 2014 #8
Another one for you-a video whosinpower1 Sep 2014 #10
You equate the two? Shaktimaan Sep 2014 #9
a small problem here you seem to dismiss entirely the constant oppression of Palestinians by Israel azurnoir Sep 2014 #11
Were you replying to Shaktimaan's post with that rant ? King_David Sep 2014 #12
yes I was and you are free to make any claim you wish and then azurnoir Sep 2014 #13
Happy New Year to you too... King_David Sep 2014 #14
Have fun and something to keep in mind azurnoir Sep 2014 #15
Right whosinpower1 Sep 2014 #6
"Many" is a funny word Scootaloo Sep 2014 #16
OT - Some and none Aerows Sep 2014 #17
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
1. Yes, and Israelis mourn the deaths of IDF soldiers suspected of killing Palestinian citizens.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 03:56 PM
Sep 2014

Both sides see the dead as soldiers for the cause.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
2. Here is the part that gets me:
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:29 PM
Sep 2014
Many Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza celebrated the initial kidnapping of Eyal Yifrach, 19, and 16-year-olds Gilad Shaar and Naftali Frenkel

WTF is wrong with those people? Besides it just being ghoulish to celebrate the kidnapping of two teenagers, any idiot should have seen that this would provoke a response from Israel.
 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
3. I felt the exact same way...
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 06:34 PM
Sep 2014

about the people who were reported, with pictures, gathered on the hilltop by Sderot watching the shelling of Gaza like it was a keen fireworks show.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
5. From the pictures in the NYT...
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 06:50 PM
Sep 2014

it sure look like it's a party. The participants appear to be cheering at the explosions a lot like when people gather around in my neighborhood to celebrate Independence Day.

whosinpower1

(85 posts)
7. Really?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:10 PM
Sep 2014
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html?referrer=

Snip-Last Wednesday night, as he stood on a hilltop outside the Israeli town of Sderot and watched the bombardment of Gaza on the plain below, a Danish newspaper reporter snapped an iPhone photo of about a dozen locals who cheered on their military from plastic chairs while eating popcorn.

Mosby

(16,317 posts)
8. I don't see anyone celebrating.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:22 PM
Sep 2014

That one guy sitting down in the foreground looks positively morose.



Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
9. You equate the two?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:40 PM
Sep 2014

The crowd cheering the bombing of Gaza are from Sderot, the town that's been the primary target of qassams for the past few years. Is it really surprising that they'd rejoice in seeing Israeli rockets striking back at the place that's caused so much terror and strife for themselves?

I'd also like to point out the difference between watching explosions from afar versus celebrating the kidnapping or deaths of individuals, particularly when they're known to be innocent, unarmed kids. You can see the difference in how Israelis reacted to acts that more closely resemble the abduction, like the subsequent settlers' torture and murder of an innocent palestinian youth. With few exceptions the response was one of outrage, not celebration.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
11. a small problem here you seem to dismiss entirely the constant oppression of Palestinians by Israel
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:53 PM
Sep 2014

as a factor here not that it's much of a surprise, something I've grown quite used to seeing here, not by you necessarily but framing the 2 sides as equal is common place enough, but you take into account Sderot's oppression by Palestinians as a factor, also when noting Israel's response to the young Palestinian boy being burned alive you seem to leave out that the facts were known a relatively short time after the incident despite the fact that a 'rumor' was started and promoted by ProIsrael publications that the boy was an honor killing by family members because of his sexual orientation, with one going so far as to claim that 'Arabs' had already been arrested for the crime, whereas in the case of the Israeli youths it was weeks before it was publicly known they were indeed dead and that the Israeli authorities had known this all along however had used the pretext of finding them alive to justify a pogrom against West Bank Palestinians called Operation Brothers Keeper.

all of this is simply to put things into perspective

King_David

(14,851 posts)
12. Were you replying to Shaktimaan's post with that rant ?
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:18 PM
Sep 2014

Or maybe you replied to the wrong post ? Because nothing in your post had anything to do with his post .

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
13. yes I was and you are free to make any claim you wish and then
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:20 PM
Sep 2014

presumably hope no one reads either post ?

Shana Tova

whosinpower1

(85 posts)
6. Right
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:02 PM
Sep 2014

Understand a bit more about the dynamic of the occupation and the institutional arrest and detainment without charge that goes on in the West Bank and Gaza.

"they" celebrate because for each Israeli that is kidnapped-there is a possibility of a prisoner exchange. Families of prisoners celebrate in hopes that their loved ones may be part of an exchange.

Not all who are rounded up are criminals, or terrorists.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
16. "Many" is a funny word
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:58 PM
Sep 2014

D'ya know that as dodgy as Wikipedia can be, the editing guidelines forbid the use of phrases like "many people believe" or 'some people day,"etc? Such usage is flagged for revision / deletion because they are "weasel words."

I'm certain I can find five people - "many" is an unquantified numerator! - who believe any old crazy bullshit.

But the point of the algemeiner isn't to inform you of events. It's to provoke exactly hte reaction you posted - to make you disgusted towards Palestinians (and Arabs in general), to make you hate them, to bring justification to their killing and oppression. TO make you believe they are subhumans, below consideration, deserving of all Israel brings to them.

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