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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:20 AM Aug 2014

‘One nation, one state, one leader’ — frightening slogan at Tel Aviv protest

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/nation-frightening-protest.html


From that facebook page:
Ultra-Zionists counter-protesting today against Rabin Square antiwar demo, sign reads: “one nation, one state, one leader”. Yes, the Reich is back in white and blue.


Neiman passes on this comment from a friend:
“sadly It’s not a hoax. some people we know talk to the people holding this sign. they were serious and didn’t know the slogan history.”


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‘One nation, one state, one leader’ — frightening slogan at Tel Aviv protest (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2014 OP
Wow. Scootaloo Aug 2014 #1
where have we heard crap like this before? MFM008 Aug 2014 #2
ever heard of Emil Grunzweig ? Israeli Aug 2014 #7
Who needs to know the history, we’ve all absorbed the history unconsciously... DreamGypsy Aug 2014 #3
Hitler was just a *generation* behind: ethnic nationalism was in full swing before WWI MisterP Aug 2014 #8
Tel-Aviv, Rabin Square 27-07-14 ..... Israeli Aug 2014 #4
For those not understanding: "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer." nt DRoseDARs Aug 2014 #5
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" neverforget Aug 2014 #6
Sadly, this doesn't surprise me. rateyes Aug 2014 #9

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
7. ever heard of Emil Grunzweig ?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 05:28 AM
Aug 2014

In the wake of the Sabra and Shatila massacre, Peace Now led a march from Zion Square and moved towards the Prime Ministers' Office in Jerusalem on 10 February 1983. During the march Peace Now demonstrators encountered a group of right-wing activists. In the ensuing confrontation, Yona Avrushmi tossed a hand-grenade into the crowd, killing Emil Grunzweig, a prominent Peace Now activist, and injuring several others.

ref : The Night Emil was Murdered

http://peacenow.org.il/eng/content/night-emil-was-murdered

For the first time I started to consider the possibility that our call to go protest can endanger the participants. Yet I was certain that we must not, under any circumstances, allow the disaster happened to weaken the movement or the willingness to act on the street, it seems to me that this was also the reaction of most active.


Nothing new under the sun MFM008.....Emil was their first in my lifetime ....Rabin was their biggest success ....inbetween there has been so many assassination attempts on prominent Leftists .... Uri Avnery of Gush Shalom included .

They can throw grenades at us .....they can shoot us in the back ....send us letter bombs and threats .... intimidate us on the streets .....try to shut us up .

Wont work .

Just read Zeev Sternhell ....who BTW was the victim of a pipe bomb attack at his home ...
one of the world's leading experts on Fascism...attacked by our own fascists !!






DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
3. Who needs to know the history, we’ve all absorbed the history unconsciously...
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:46 AM
Aug 2014

...(from the link in the post):

Which is not to say that the Holocaust is being reenacted by Israel, but that certain Nazi ideas about power have been absorbed. It’s what has been imprinted. The recovery movement informs us that a victim of abuse will reenact the role of the abuser when he has the hammer.




...explained as Nazi Propaganda:

The cult of the leader, which surpassed any normal level of trust in political leadership, is central to an understanding of the appeal of National Socialism. It was undoubtedly the most important theme running through Nazi propaganda.

The Nazis turned to völkisch thought (a product of nineteenth-century German romanticism) and the notion of Führerprinzip ('the leadership principle'), to embody their ideas, and Hitler was shown in posters as a mystical figure, guiding the nation's destiny. In practical terms, the leadership principle meant that decisions came down from above, instead of being worked out by discussion and choice from below.

The essentially negative anti-parliamentarianism of Nazi propaganda led to the projection of the 'Führer-myth', which depicted Hitler as both charismatic superman and man of the people.

A veritable industry of paintings and posters showed Hitler in familiar 'renaissance pose', alongside the propaganda slogan: Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer ('One People, One Nation, One Leader'). The slogan was used to great effect in 1938, with the Anschluss ('union'), when Germany joined in union with Austria.



And where is humanity in all of this?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
8. Hitler was just a *generation* behind: ethnic nationalism was in full swing before WWI
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:03 PM
Aug 2014

in Western Europe, and even Germany had strongly "liberalized" (that's a very complex word to use, though) across the 20s

before then, the point was to weld together Volk and Reich in France, Britain, the US, Italy--everyone fetishized one's new army and one's new flags, and frankly worship the state at its carefully orchestrated feast days; the Pledge of Allegiance's main purposes were to unite North and South after the 1877 pullout and explicitly to Prussianize the country; "dialects" of course had to be stamped out to modernize--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergonha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
4. Tel-Aviv, Rabin Square 27-07-14 .....
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 03:30 AM
Aug 2014


"a Jew is a 'soul', an Arab is a son of a prostitute", "Death to Arabs", "Muhammad is dead", "1000 killed [in Gaza]!". After the peace demonstration in Tel Aviv calling for the end of hostilities ended the floor was left for the Israeli Right Wing activists to spread their messages and disrupted public order. These people who took over the concept of Israeli patriotism and turned it into religious and ethnic hatred agenda, have also followed peace activists on their way back from the demonstration and attacked them in isolated locations.

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