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Related: About this forumHushed, determined Israel in a war ‘for our home’
For those who need to see this through Israeli eyes to better understand what's going on, and why....Were a nation glued to the news to the TV, the radio, the internet. And its almost unremittingly grim. Just a few days ago, we were worrying about dozens of rockets hitting all over Israel, and shaking our heads at the mini-miracle of Iron Dome intercepting most of them. Now its the residents of the kibbutzim and moshavim close to the Gaza border, and the thousands of soldiers inside the Strip, who are the focus of our frantic attention, emphatically on the front line, their lives in constant danger. What we are now starting to call attack tunnels are being discovered all the time long, sophisticated underground passages, dug out over months, even years, running from under homes in the dense Gaza neighborhoods like Shejaiya within a mile or so of the border, and up under the Israeli side, some with multiple exits, some directed under the homes and dining halls at those kibbutzim and moshavim: Nir Oz, Nirim, Ein Hashelosh.
Just three days ago, my colleague at the Times of Israel Mitch Ginsburg wrote the following: Haim Yellin, the head of the Eshkol Regional Council, recently told The Times of Israel, standing outside a tunnel discovered several months ago, that many residents in the region are so scarred by the prospect of a tunnel attack that they hear the phantom scratching of shovels when they close their eyes at night. Well, now we know that it was not the phantom scratching of shovels they were hearing. It was the scratching of shovels. Numerous air attacks have proved incapable of smashing those tunnels, even in cases where Israeli intelligence knew where to direct bombing strikes. Its only soldiers on foot, going house to house in Gaza neighborhoods, exposed to mines and hidden explosives and sniper fire, who can find the well-hidden tunnel openings. And many, many soldiers are being killed and injured in the process. The death toll in Operation Protective Edge has already overtaken the toll in the two previous major conflicts since Hamas seized the Strip, in 2008-9 and 2012. The number of such tunnels being found is rising all the time five, eight, 13, 15. An immense investment by Hamas of time and money and energy and concrete and hatred. But we still havent found them all. Just this morning, Hamas terrorists were spotted emerging from yet another of their attack tunnels; the IDF released footage of some of the gunmen squirming away from the exit, en route to murder, before they were blown up. But not all the exits have been spotted in time; weve lost soldiers on the Israeli side of the border where Israel has bolstered its troop deployment to find those exits, and to protect the local residents gunned down by the Hamas infiltrators as they emerge.
I say the news is almost unremittingly grim. What isnt grim is the relative unity of fragmented Israel right now, and the motivation of our soldiers. We are joined in common horror at the evidence of Hamass war-to-the-death strategy, and in the realization of the extent of the danger so much so that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, at a press conference last night, was asked not about whether he was getting Israel too deep into conflict but about how he could possibly have accepted last Tuesdays Egyptian ceasefire offer, when that would have left the Hamas tunnel infrastructure intact. (He answered that he calculated Hamas would likely refuse the offer, and that he was determined to tackle the tunnel threat militarily, diplomatically or both.) When Netanyahu said last night that Israel is in a war for our home, it sounded anything but demagogic. When he said that Hamas had expected Tel Aviv to be in ruins by now, thanks to its rockets, we knew this was true. When he said Hamas had invested years of work, and immense capital in the tunnels, aiming to carry out mega terror attacks and kidnappings, and that the planned assaults on kindergartens, dining halls would have been catastrophic, there was no doubting him.
The word from Gaza is that Hamass terrorists and their commanders simply havent been seen in the past two weeks. Theyve melted away underground, emerging only to try to kill our soldiers when the IDF moves in, their spokesmen telling the world that Gaza civilian casualties are the fault of the Israeli occupation while simultaneously warning those same Gaza civilians not to heed Israels entreaties to leave the area for their own safety. Often, at times of conflict, Israel is preoccupied with how the world is reporting and understanding events. We are bitter that we are misrepresented that the international community doesnt realize we are defending ourselves against aggressors (rather than being the aggressors), doesnt internalize the cynical use by Hezbollah (in south Lebanon) and Hamas (in the West Bank 10 years ago and now in Gaza) of local citizens as expendable shields for their terrorist activity. Were frustrated about all that now too, but its not our preoccupation. For we find ourselves at war with an Islamic extremist group utterly committed to killing us, at whatever cost, delighting in the evil it wreaks upon us, indifferent to the devastation it brings down upon Gaza. This is not a nasty terror group. This is a terrorist government that devotes its quasi-countrys resources principally toward wiping out the country next door. For all that the news is grim, Hamas is encountering far more failure than success. The rockets that were intended to reduce much of Israel to rubble have proved largely ineffective though nobody should doubt that Hamas is working feverishly to outwit Iron Dome. Infiltrations from the sea have failed. Most of the attack tunnel efforts have been thwarted. But far too much of Hamass capacity to do us harm remains intact. And it is relentlessly seeking to do us murderous harm. So what preoccupies us right now is one simple, essential imperative: to prevail.
Just three days ago, my colleague at the Times of Israel Mitch Ginsburg wrote the following: Haim Yellin, the head of the Eshkol Regional Council, recently told The Times of Israel, standing outside a tunnel discovered several months ago, that many residents in the region are so scarred by the prospect of a tunnel attack that they hear the phantom scratching of shovels when they close their eyes at night. Well, now we know that it was not the phantom scratching of shovels they were hearing. It was the scratching of shovels. Numerous air attacks have proved incapable of smashing those tunnels, even in cases where Israeli intelligence knew where to direct bombing strikes. Its only soldiers on foot, going house to house in Gaza neighborhoods, exposed to mines and hidden explosives and sniper fire, who can find the well-hidden tunnel openings. And many, many soldiers are being killed and injured in the process. The death toll in Operation Protective Edge has already overtaken the toll in the two previous major conflicts since Hamas seized the Strip, in 2008-9 and 2012. The number of such tunnels being found is rising all the time five, eight, 13, 15. An immense investment by Hamas of time and money and energy and concrete and hatred. But we still havent found them all. Just this morning, Hamas terrorists were spotted emerging from yet another of their attack tunnels; the IDF released footage of some of the gunmen squirming away from the exit, en route to murder, before they were blown up. But not all the exits have been spotted in time; weve lost soldiers on the Israeli side of the border where Israel has bolstered its troop deployment to find those exits, and to protect the local residents gunned down by the Hamas infiltrators as they emerge.
I say the news is almost unremittingly grim. What isnt grim is the relative unity of fragmented Israel right now, and the motivation of our soldiers. We are joined in common horror at the evidence of Hamass war-to-the-death strategy, and in the realization of the extent of the danger so much so that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, at a press conference last night, was asked not about whether he was getting Israel too deep into conflict but about how he could possibly have accepted last Tuesdays Egyptian ceasefire offer, when that would have left the Hamas tunnel infrastructure intact. (He answered that he calculated Hamas would likely refuse the offer, and that he was determined to tackle the tunnel threat militarily, diplomatically or both.) When Netanyahu said last night that Israel is in a war for our home, it sounded anything but demagogic. When he said that Hamas had expected Tel Aviv to be in ruins by now, thanks to its rockets, we knew this was true. When he said Hamas had invested years of work, and immense capital in the tunnels, aiming to carry out mega terror attacks and kidnappings, and that the planned assaults on kindergartens, dining halls would have been catastrophic, there was no doubting him.
The word from Gaza is that Hamass terrorists and their commanders simply havent been seen in the past two weeks. Theyve melted away underground, emerging only to try to kill our soldiers when the IDF moves in, their spokesmen telling the world that Gaza civilian casualties are the fault of the Israeli occupation while simultaneously warning those same Gaza civilians not to heed Israels entreaties to leave the area for their own safety. Often, at times of conflict, Israel is preoccupied with how the world is reporting and understanding events. We are bitter that we are misrepresented that the international community doesnt realize we are defending ourselves against aggressors (rather than being the aggressors), doesnt internalize the cynical use by Hezbollah (in south Lebanon) and Hamas (in the West Bank 10 years ago and now in Gaza) of local citizens as expendable shields for their terrorist activity. Were frustrated about all that now too, but its not our preoccupation. For we find ourselves at war with an Islamic extremist group utterly committed to killing us, at whatever cost, delighting in the evil it wreaks upon us, indifferent to the devastation it brings down upon Gaza. This is not a nasty terror group. This is a terrorist government that devotes its quasi-countrys resources principally toward wiping out the country next door. For all that the news is grim, Hamas is encountering far more failure than success. The rockets that were intended to reduce much of Israel to rubble have proved largely ineffective though nobody should doubt that Hamas is working feverishly to outwit Iron Dome. Infiltrations from the sea have failed. Most of the attack tunnel efforts have been thwarted. But far too much of Hamass capacity to do us harm remains intact. And it is relentlessly seeking to do us murderous harm. So what preoccupies us right now is one simple, essential imperative: to prevail.
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Hushed, determined Israel in a war ‘for our home’ (Original Post)
shira
Jul 2014
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(43,890 posts)1. This is the "Stand Your Ground" argument taken to the national level. nt
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shira
(30,109 posts)3. If you don't support all that Hamas does, you're a racist & hater.
They're freedom fighters, you know.
Doing all they can against the evil Zionist aggressors.
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