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ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:19 AM Jul 2014

Israeli calls for Palestinian blood ring at fever pitch

Concerned humanists may have hoped that when a group of Jewish Israelis confessed to kidnapping and killing Muhammad Abu Khudair, a Palestinian teenager in Jerusalem — forcing him to drink gasoline and torching him to death from inside his body — that top Israeli legislators and rabbis would have been horrified at what their revenge rhetoric had triggered, and seriously scaled back their calls for war.

These hopes would have been in vain. In the days since the lynchers were arrested, the anti-Arab rhetoric has continued to ring at a fever pitch. Even as the Israeli army pummels the Gaza Strip with explosives — more than 1,500 tons have been dropped on Gaza by the time of this writing, killing 193 people and wounding approximately 1,200, the vast majority of them civilians — Israeli political, religious and cultural leaders continue to incite sectarian divisions for political profit.


http://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-calls-palestinian-blood-ring-fever-pitch/13578

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kjones

(1,053 posts)
2. I don't know much about sources in the I/P arena
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:13 PM
Jul 2014

Honestly, I think the whole "You can't use that...Why do you use that..." is kind of
childish. You read it (you should never take anything you read at face value)
and either it is true or not. Either way, you read some other stuff to verify
what you read, again, not taking things at face value.

As far as this, it seems like the only people complaining about it being
"hate" are people who would disagree with anything that put Israel in
a negative light, or Palestinians in a positive (or even neutral) light.

Is it propagandist? In the sense that doesn't report what I'm sure is
equal incitement that can be found from individuals on the other side,
yes. Are the statement true? I don't know, haven't looked yet, but
they are pretty easily verifiable, so probably.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
3. This site,
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:19 PM
Jul 2014
http://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-calls-palestinian-blood-ring-fever-pitch/13578

is nothing more that a RW racist Jewish hating site that's full of lies and half truths, and the OP well knows this, but continues to use cites from it, so, I'll comment every time she uses this site.

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
7. I would appreciate your intake on ....
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jul 2014

This site :

http://972mag.com/

and this one :

http://www.kibush.co.il/index.asp

and this one :

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/index_en.html

and this one :

http://adam-keller2.blogspot.co.il/

I could give you a few more but hopefully you get my point .

They are all Left wing Israeli web sites .

Would it be okay in your humble opinion if ellenrr used these sites ?

King_David

(14,851 posts)
9. Ellenrr is obviously using much more extremist RW sites
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jul 2014

"Jewish refugees were lied to in order to get them to migrate to Palestine. Jews from cities would not have as their choice to immigrate to a rural land. And Jewish refugees were even threatened to make them move to to Palestine."

Stuff like that is David Duke/ Rense kind of stuff but she/he refuses to source it for us.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=68202

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
12. which of the list I gave you ...
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jul 2014

...do you consider to be hate sites and why ?
...hate against whom exactly ?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
14. the story about MK Shaked has been carried by a number of outlets including The Daily Beast
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:18 PM
Jul 2014

“This is a war,” Shaked quoted Elitzur in the post. She has been routinely denounced in the Israeli press as an extremist. “Words have meanings. This is a war. It is not a war against terror, and not a war against extremists, and not even a war against the Palestinian Authority. These too are forms of avoiding reality. This is a war between two people. Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people. Why? Ask them, they started.”

“They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads,” the post reads. “Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/16/hamas-has-already-won-its-rocket-war-with-israel.html

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
15. Including ....
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:50 PM
Jul 2014
http://972mag.com/how-an-army-of-defense-turned-into-soldiers-of-vengeance/93740/

“No more playing by the rules,” said MK Ayelet Shaked. The Secretary General of World Bnei Akiva youth movement called for bloody vengeance. These calls of action, among many others, led Israeli citizens to take to the streets and attack Palestinians indiscriminately. This air of revenge claimed the life of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, the Palestinian youth from Shuafat who was murdered by Jewish Israelis.

The cycle of violence didn’t end with the youth. The Israeli leadership responded to the demands for revenge by mobilizing the Israeli military as an army of vengeance, and Hamas responded in kind. The military operation that commenced in the West Bank as a result of the kidnapping included collective punishment of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Hamas returned to shooting rockets from the Gaza Strip at Israeli civilians in Israel, and the Israeli army launched a military operation against the Gaza Strip. Over 200 Palestinians, the vast majority of them civilians, and one Israeli citizen have been killed since the upsurge in violence. The Israeli army has carried out approximately 1,825 air strikes in the Gaza, and Palestinian militants have fired more than 900 rockets into Israeli territory. At this point, there is no end in sight to the cycle of reciprocal violence that continues due to the logic of revenge

King_David

(14,851 posts)
6. Electronic intifada us not meant to be used as a source to start OP here
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jul 2014

Besides it being RW biased skewed and often times bigoted it's also not very reliable .

I know I know you don't care about the rules in IP ...

And you keep quoting extremist sources without citing them .


( my guess is you used Rense for this one :

"Jewish refugees were lied to in order to get them to migrate to Palestine. Jews from cities would not have as their choice to immigrate to a rural land. And Jewish refugees were even threatened to make them move to to Palestine."


We have to speculate as you won't cite your sources....

Or David Duke ? Stormfront ?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=68202

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